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Australias failing workforce

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:12 pm

Falling workforce (11,697,000, down 349,000) drives down employment
(10,770,000, down 328,000). Unemployment steady at 7.9% (927,000).
Now 1.6 million (13.6%) Australians are Unemployed or Underemployed
Finding No. 4638 - This Roy Morgan survey on Australia’s unemployment and ‘underemployed’* is based on weekly interviews covering January 2007 – February 2011 and in total 215,656 Australians aged 14 and over were interviewed face-to-face including 4,195 interviews in February 2011.: March 09, 2011


In February 2011 Australia’s total unemployment as measured by Roy Morgan was 927,000 (7.9%), down 21,000 (% unchanged) from January 2011, but up 20,000 (% unchanged) since February 2010.

The Roy Morgan February 2011 ‘underemployed’* estimate has dropped substantially to 669,000 (5.7%), down 201,000 (1.5%) and is down 47,000 (0.6%) since February 2010. This is the lowest number of underemployed in Australia for nearly two years, since May 2009 (669,000).

In total in February 2011 an estimated 1,596,000 (13.6%) of Australians were unemployed or ‘underemployed,’ down 222,000 (1.5%) on January 2011.

Overall full-time employment in Australia for February is 7,468,000 (down 107,000 since January 2011 but up 230,000 since February 2010) and part-time employment 3,302,000 (down 221,000 since January 2011 and down 8,000 since February 2010).

There are now 524,000 (up 65,000 on January 2011 but down 9,000 on February 2010) Australians looking for full-time work. An additional 403,000 Australians are looking for part-time work, (down 86,000 on January 2011, but up 29,000 on February 2010).

The latest Roy Morgan unemployment estimate is 2.9% above the 5.0% currently quoted by the ABS for January 2011.

Gary Morgan says:

“The February 2011Roy Morgan employment estimates show a fall in the workforce (11,697,000, down 349,000) in February — which Roy Morgan has been measured in most years as students return to their education after the Summer holidays — has driven a drop in numbers across the board.

“Employment has fallen 328,000 to 10,770,000, full-time employment is down 107,000 to 7,468,000 and part-time employment is down 221,000 to 3,302,000. Unemployment has also fallen 21,000 to 927,000, although remains steady at 7.9% of the workforce.

“The most substantial fall is in the ranks of the underemployed down 201,000 to 669,000 (5.7%) — the lowest number of underemployed since May 2009 (661,000). Looking closely at previous February results shows the underemployed have fallen in each February since Roy Morgan began measuring underemployment on a monthly basis. This is also likely due to students returning to their education and being unable to work the full-time hours they were available for throughout Summer."

This Roy Morgan survey on Australia’s unemployment and ‘underemployed’* is based on weekly interviews covering January 2007 — February 2011 and in total 215,656 Australians aged 14 and over were interviewed face-to-face including 4,195 interviews in February 2011.

*The ‘underemployed’ are those people who are in part-time work or consultants who are looking for more work. (Unfortunately the ABS does not measure this figure in their monthly unemployment survey.)


http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2011/4638/
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Re: Australias failing workforce

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:37 pm

Does anyone know what the official indicators are in order for us to be in recession?

Or is this term now Politically incorrect too?
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Re: Australias failing workforce

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:56 pm

But get this, just 4 hours before the above RRS feed came in from Morgan, our government issues this early bird generic rhetoric.

http://www.thegovmonitor.com/economy/au ... 47412.html

What's going on?

It's the price we pay for Labors over-regulation of the workforce

More than 700 Aussie jobs could be sent off shore as Telstra

MORE than 700 Aussie jobs could be moved offshore after Telstra cancelled two Australian call centre contracts.

Telstra could not confirm how many jobs would be filled in Australia yesterday, but offshore companies are under consideration for the contracts.

In Victoria, 163 workers in Salmat's Geelong office will be jobless, unless Salmat finds another client following its recent decision.

The company issued a statement yesterday saying its contract had been discontinued and 742 positions across Australia were likely to be axed unless new contracts were found.

It is believed another Victorian-based call centre provider will have to cut staff this week after its contract with the telecommunications giant also lapsed.

Staff at that company had not been told of the news by yesterday afternoon, the Telstra spokeswoman said.



http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/jobs ... 6017462449
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Re: Australias failing workforce

Post by Viking King. » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:22 am

Another point that must be understood was made with the Howard gov't,
introducing all the different schemes within centerlink,
if you were unemployed and chose to do a course to better your chances at finding work, you were removed from the unemployed list on put on the "Full time training" list,
if you were forced onto the "Work forthe dole" list, you were removed from the unemployed list,
if you were placed on the "Intensive assistance" help list, you were removed from the unemployed list,
therefore making the unemployed numbers lower even though the unemployed were still there looking for work.
Another hard part is when a person does foot patrol looking for work from door to door,
many companies would reject you at the door saying "If we have a job to advertise we will do it through the job office, because we don't want all the paperwork (resume details) clogging the office.
Another one is how many employers are on your resume, today it is very hard to find a fulltime permanent position, just about everything is casual, a few days here and there, after 12 months you have 20 employers on your resume, this does not look good when applying for work, also one cound be a person that has done labour work all his/her working life but has a good qualification showing in the details, such as Cert IV Assessor & Workplace trainer, the potential employer will see that and consider the person to be a pen pusher and won't get a chance at an interview.
It all sucks.

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Re: Australias failing workforce

Post by Sappho » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:05 pm

Viking, I hate to break it to you, but a cert iv in Training and Assessment is not that big a deal.
Also, you need to tailor your CV to the job you are applying for.
If you have had many casual jobs and they were from an agency... you note the agency (that is not a govt provider) and not each individual job. If they are not from an private agency, then you collect them together under one banner... 'Casual Positions'. When the employer asks about it, you point out scarcity of full time positions at that time and that some kind of work is better than no work... the potential employer will love it. It's long gaps of nothing that makes the employer wary. Indeed this is why programs such as work for the dole are around, to fill the gaps with something.

Otherwise, you are right, anything to hide the real level of unemployment is what all govt's do. You forgot to mention that even an hour of employment in the period being measured will discount that person being unemployed.

Viking King.

Re: Australias failing workforce

Post by Viking King. » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:04 pm

Sappho wrote:Viking, I hate to break it to you, but a cert iv in Training and Assessment is not that big a deal.
Also, you need to tailor your CV to the job you are applying for.
If you have had many casual jobs and they were from an agency... you note the agency (that is not a govt provider) and not each individual job. If they are not from an private agency, then you collect them together under one banner... 'Casual Positions'. When the employer asks about it, you point out scarcity of full time positions at that time and that some kind of work is better than no work... the potential employer will love it. It's long gaps of nothing that makes the employer wary. Indeed this is why programs such as work for the dole are around, to fill the gaps with something.

Otherwise, you are right, anything to hide the real level of unemployment is what all govt's do. You forgot to mention that even an hour of employment in the period being measured will discount that person being unemployed.
Perhaps, some years ago when in the hands of a job agent, they could not understand why I was not getting in the door for an interview, so they had people with experience adrress the CV to make it more appealing, adding this, removing that, having only the labor works involved or having only the better of qualifications involved, changed at least 6 times over 18 months, still didn't work, so I gave up trying, I am not forced to seek employment due to permanent medicals but would much prefer doing some work to keep me occupied and active.

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Re: Australias failing workforce

Post by IQS.RLOW » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:14 pm

I am not forced to seek employment due to permanent medicals but would much prefer doing some work to keep me occupied and active.
Explains a lot about your attitude. Perhaps you should be forced?- I can just imagine, the pathetic whine should be enough to power some whine farm invention that would be enough to power someone's mobile phone for 15 minutes after your month long grizzle and you can say that you are saving the earth by doing fuck all :roll:
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Re: Australias failing workforce

Post by Viking King. » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:22 pm

What are you going on about?
You appear to be the typical pom that hates everyone for have something to say,
if you aint a pom then I apologise to the British because they wouldn't won't you.

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Re: Australias failing workforce

Post by IQS.RLOW » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:26 pm

Viking King. wrote:What are you going on about?
You appear to be the typical pom that hates everyone for have something to say,
if you aint a pom then I apologise to the British because they wouldn't won't you.
I won't won't a pom becoz I won't a pom.

You leftys aren't a real bright bunch are you? It shows..
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Re: Australias failing workforce

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:41 am

I spent 15 years + on and off in metal industries - Metal spinner, Fitter machinist, Welder (mostly aluminium), Metal polisher, Spray painter, Custom wheel manufacturer, and Wheel repairer. Also ran my own mag/alloy wheel repair business for 3 years +.
Then quit and went to war against an outlaw club. It was no longer safe to attend my business so let it go, then sold off machinary assets for less than they were worth because it was costing me money to rent shipping containers to store my equipment.

On my 30th birthday I applied for the dole, and was rejected for having too much money. 3 months later I went on the dole.

The tit for tat war went on until 1 year to the day of quiting the club, when I wound up in a maximum security gaol.
Shortly before my gaoling these @)$#wipes burnt my grandparents' farm house to the ground. 1 week after my release their Sydney chapter clubhouse was burnt down. Naturally, everybody including NSW organised crime squad thought I did it, so the war wasn't over. A rival club tried to recruit me 3 times, which I rejected, but I did tell them who (from my own former club) bombed their Sydney chapter clubhouse.

By this stage I hadn't worked for over 2 years. The woman I co-habited with began chasing another bloke recently released from gaol. I moved out and he moved in the same day. I moved aprox 100 metres down the road by squatting in an abandoned town house, which pi$$ed my ex off because except for a large tree, we could see one another's homes.
I turned the electricity back on (illegally), parked my car in the carport, put the garbage out, collected junk mail, walked my dog, ect, and the neighbors had no idea I was squatting.

My ex's new partner met some of the members of the club I quit while in gaol, so informed them of my where abouts.

I moved up here to be near my land so I can set it up to be permanently habitable. The whole idea is a lifestyle thing and so I don't have to pay rent when I'm old and decrepit.

The first job offer was fruit picking (zucchinis) and have continued picking (almost everything) on and off for 12 + years.
If you choose your crops/farms right it can be good money, but more often than not its hard work for $#!+ pay, but it keeps me fit and tanned.

Several years ago I cashed in my super under hardship provisions [what a battle - they think its their money] bought another bike, paid NSW govt the fines I'd refused to pay for 10 years because they'd gaoled me (reason/excuse being they should fine or gaol, not both), paid Qld govt the fines for driving unlicensed 3 times in the same 10 years, and went to uni as a mature aged student.

When the money ran out, I rejected the option of taking on a HECS debt, so went back to work.
I was renting a 3 bedroom house for $130 p/w, which was dirt cheap. A friend offered me her unfinished house on 40 odd acres 35 km out of town for nothing if I'd house sit/stand guard over it while she went to Magnetic Is for family reasons.
I told her I can't move out there without a job ... "Social Security will wipe me" ... she claimed she could get me a job on the farm she'd been a packer for.
Meanwhile the employment agency was trying to prevent me leaving town because they had a client wanting an aluminium welder, and bull$#!++ed me for that purpose.

I took the free dwelling and citrus picking job. Moved onto another citrus job. Then nothing for 6 weeks or so, untill gatting a job on a squash and egg-plant farm across the road. When the owner of the property I house sat returned, she became hard to get on with so I moved into a 30 ft long caravan on the farm. The boss' defacto son inlaw, a junky, stole from me a number of times, so I ran him off the farm. The boss was so pleased he gave me a 3 bedroom house on the farm for $100 p/w.

Late 2009 it rained for over 2 months ... crops went to $#!+ .. tractors got bogged regularly .... so was only getting 2 or 3 days p/w work rather than 5 to 7 days p/w.
During this period (Feb 2010) we had some work on a rainy day. When it stops raining it got too hot in a raincoat, so I'd put it on a large blue irrigation hose known as a 'lay flat' so that I could find my (camoflage) army raincoat in a hurry should it rain again.

A Swiss bloke driving a tractor took my raincoat and hid it in the tractor cab. I got stroppy, pushed him over and pushed his face into the mud, to the delight of every one else in the paddock. Turns out I'm not allowed to push people over or shove their face in the mud, so got the sack.

I've now been unemployed for a year, but did not go on the dole for at least 4 months after sacking, simply because I didn't want to run around doing all these useless errands Social Security expects/demands. At first I just sold off possessions - chainsaw, metal detector, radio scanner, ect, and ate wild animals (mostly birds), plus bow hunters using my block as a home base for pig hunting would bring me tobacco, flour, powdered milk, ect. Then the bounty on dingos and feral dogs went from $150 to $200 per skinned animal, so now I was a bounty hunter.

I'd accepted an invitation to Xmas here in town, so on Xmas eve came to town. Then we had floods, and I've hardly been home (my block) since. In that time I've only had a few days landscaping here and there on a couple of construction sites. The employer turned a blind eye to my not having the required safety credentials because the projects were behind schedule.
I've done the course to obtain the construction industry white card, but nothing's happened yet.

Now I'm getting almost daily stomach aches and have blood coming out my anus every other day. Have seen a doc and am waiting for pathology results. Going on some of the antics I've experienced with some of these little hitlers at social security, I'm expecting to be phuked around with medical/doctors certificates/paperwork ect, and to be honest I couldn't be bothered trying to keep them happy. If blood coming out my @)$# isn't good enough, well I'll probably go bush again, hunt dingos/feral dogs, pigs, resume eating wild animals, and if it kills me, too bad .... FTW.

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