Pauline Hanson back in poll race

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Re: Pauline Hanson back in poll race

Post by Neferti » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:40 pm

boxy wrote:Anyone know how much she makes with all these half arsed runs?
You should ask Beowulf. He's a fan of our Pauline. :mrgreen:

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Re: Pauline Hanson back in poll race

Post by Sappho » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:42 pm

Pastafarian wrote:
Sappho wrote:
Pastafarian wrote:
Well its only been three years, you can't reverse the effects of a decade of crap funding that quick.
They haven't even touched the funding model in that time... nor even talked about the funding model in that time. You are being far too charitable and nowhere near critical enough... remember, Dullard claims to have joined politics to make a difference in education... and she is yet to do that.


OK, Labors done a crap job, hows that. I admit it, I also admit though that this whole thing hasn't been helped by previous governments.
No... you are right. The education funding model has been faulty for too many years... too many liberal years at that... and as a result secondary schools and the education they offer has suffered greatly. The libs and labs have let us down profoundly. Still, the only politician that I know of who claims to have entered politics in order to make a difference in education is Gillard... and in all that time, she has done nothing.

Do you know, that most policy developers will tell you that the funding model for education is too difficult to fathom.... it's like trying to make sense of what smelli melli writes. :lol:

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Re: Pauline Hanson back in poll race

Post by Neferti » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:44 pm

mantra wrote:The last time Hanson ran and failed the amount she got paid was around $280,000 - it may have been a bit more, and her campaigning consisted of a couple of appearances on TV and radio - oh she did talk to Alan Jones more than once, but that was about it.
Why don't you ask Beowulf? Just because some newspaper quotes a sum of money, doesn't make it true.

PS I have no luv for Pauline and why she keeps making an idiot of herself I have no idea or interest. :mrgreen:

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Re: Pauline Hanson back in poll race

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:29 pm

What most people fail to realise is One Nation (O-N) was never actually a polical party despite a heap of candidates (at one time) running on the O-N ticket. So that Hanson and the 2 other founders cound never be out voted or voted out via branch stacking within O-N they permantly restricded the org's membership to 3, themselves.

An Australian political party is entitled to electoral funding if it gains enough votes.
(Forget rules concerning independants, but they differ somehow)
An Australian political party must have a minimum of 500 members.

One Nation only had 3 members. So to become elligible for the ratio/regime of electoral funding for political parties One Nation submitted the One Nation supporters group membership list as the One Nation Party membership list, to obtain $500,000.

And that is why Pauline Hanson was convicted and gaoled for electoral fraud.

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Re: Pauline Hanson back in poll race

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:35 pm

She's going to do very well, I think better than a few of you may have thought.

It's good timing, Australians want a more border security and a review of refugee policy be they racist or not.. .. as most Australians agree, if only 'quietly' we just cant go on like this indefinitely.

Greens suggest we do nothing, more the merrier, and the ALP don't care, it's what ever scores votes, do nothing.
We need a solution, and the ALP or Greens don't have one, so it's time for change.

And it's up to us to make this change.
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Re: Pauline Hanson back in poll race

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:44 pm

The peak of Hanson's success occurred in June 1998, when One Nation attracted nearly one-quarter of the vote in that month's State elections in Queensland, and One Nation won 11 out of 89 seats in the Queensland Legislative Assembly.

She was a threat - in restoring truth. The fact she was jailed without trial then later acquitted is testament to this fact.

Abbott and Hanson have buried the hatchet, both concede an element of determination, on both sides, all being fair in love, war and politics.

Kristina Keneally is quite nervous, understandable, but making brash poorly thought through media statements the way she did today, is very silly.

Abbott has the right idea, keeping a respectful distance, though offering his support for her as he would any candidate coming in, as though he would any Australian citizen, whereas Keneally looked incredibly frazzled, dishevelled even, looked as though she'd been up clambering through her former party policies all night.
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Re: Pauline Hanson back in poll race

Post by Pastafarian » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:13 pm

mellie wrote:The peak of Hanson's success occurred in June 1998, when One Nation attracted nearly one-quarter of the vote in that month's State elections in Queensland, and One Nation won 11 out of 89 seats in the Queensland Legislative Assembly.

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ANd yet somehow that same year, she was voted out in the Federal Election. That must be the peak.
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Re: Pauline Hanson back in poll race

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:17 pm

mellie wrote:The fact she was jailed without trial
Hanson, Olfield and Ethridge were convicted at trial.

Prosecution
http://www.gwb.com.au/cd/cmc.pdf

The Hanson trial: please explain?
http://eprints.usq.edu.au/5050/
In what has been described in the media as one of the most sensational and unusual years in Queensland's legal history} the 2003 criminal trial of Pauline Hanson, former MP and founder of the political party Pauline Hanson's One Nation was the most sensational event of them all. Pauline Hanson and her co-accused David Ettridge were convicted and sentenced to three years imprisonment on fraud charges under the Criminal Code (Qld) (the Code), relating to their part in the registration of the political party. What particularly characterised this event was not so much the trial itself, which was relatively uneventful considering the identity of the accused, but the extensive public debate and media coverage following their conviction and imprisonment on 20 August 2003. Pending the hearing of their appeal, unsuccessful applications for bail were taken as far as the High Court. Ultimately, on 6 November 2003,the Queensland Court of Appeal quashed all the convictions and ordered that verdicts of acquittal be entered. Much media analysis has followed, but little discussion of the charges, sentence and appeal process. This article analyses what occurred, and asks the question: Is there really any explaining to do, or were the eventual acquittals an example of due process in accordance with the rule of law? The article also examines the impact of the extraordinary media coverage of the case.
then later acquitted is testament to this fact.
Well lets see ...

Fraud conviction and acquittal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Ha ... _acquittal
On 20 August 2003, in a separate and this time criminal case, a jury in the District Court of Queensland convicted Hanson and Ettridge of electoral fraud. Both of them were sentenced to three years imprisonment for falsely claiming that 500 members of the 'Pauline Hanson Support Movement' were members of the political organisation 'Pauline Hanson's One Nation', in order to register that organisation in Queensland as a political party and apply for electoral funding. Because the registration was found to be unlawful, Hanson's receipt of electoral funding worth A$498,637 resulted in two further convictions for dishonestly obtaining property - each with three-year sentences, to run concurrently with the first. Hanson's initial reaction to the verdict was - "Rubbish, I'm not guilty. It's a joke."[55]
On 6 November 2003 (delivering judgment the day after hearing the appeal), the Queensland Court of Appeal quashed all of Hanson's and Ettridge's convictions. Hanson and Ettridge were immediately released from jail.[57] The Court's unanimous decision was that the evidence did not support a conclusion beyond reasonable doubt that the people on the list were not members of the 'Pauline Hanson's One Nation' party and that Hanson and Ettridge knew this when the application to register the party was submitted. Accordingly, the convictions regarding registration were quashed. The convictions regarding funding, which depended on the same facts, were also quashed. However, in order to reach this decision the court had to suppose that the three founding members of One Nation - Hanson, Ettridge and Oldfield - had misinterpreted the party's constitution when they had claimed, in earlier public statements, to be the only members of the party.[58]
Either the 3 members of One Nation were completely ignorant of Australian electoral laws or deliberately defrauded the Ozzie public .... you choose ... halfwits or thieves?

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Re: Pauline Hanson back in poll race

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:17 pm

Pastafarian wrote:
mellie wrote:The peak of Hanson's success occurred in June 1998, when One Nation attracted nearly one-quarter of the vote in that month's State elections in Queensland, and One Nation won 11 out of 89 seats in the Queensland Legislative Assembly.

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ANd yet somehow that same year, she was voted out in the Federal Election. That must be the peak.
Still, not bad for a single mum working out of her fish and chip shop.

She captured the mood of the electorate, something the larger partys were reluctant to touch on.

Has Kristina held a job, other than in the supine position in Labors press gallery?

She loves it down there....

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Re: Pauline Hanson back in poll race

Post by Pastafarian » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:18 pm

mellie wrote:
Pastafarian wrote:
mellie wrote:The peak of Hanson's success occurred in June 1998, when One Nation attracted nearly one-quarter of the vote in that month's State elections in Queensland, and One Nation won 11 out of 89 seats in the Queensland Legislative Assembly.

.


ANd yet somehow that same year, she was voted out in the Federal Election. That must be the peak.
Still, not bad for a single mum working out of her fish and chip shop.

She captured the mood of the electorate, something the larger partys were reluctant to touch on.

Has Kristina held a job, other than in the supine position in Labors press gallery?

She loves it down there....

:D


Admittedly the mood of the electorate of Oxley, the average IQ of which would be about 80.
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