The right to breed

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Outlaw Yogi

Re: The right to breed

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:36 pm

Not right to breed related per se, but interelated in a Minority Reportish sort of way.

Child brain scans to pick out future criminals
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/8339 ... inals.html
Dr Raine said he acknowledged the ethical implications of treating children before they had done anything wrong, but argued that “biological” causes of crime could not be ignored.

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Re: The right to breed

Post by mantra » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:56 am

They argue that, by predicting which children have the potential to be trouble, treatments could be introduced to keep them on the straight and narrow. If the tests are accurate enough then a form of screening could be introduced in the same way we test for some diseases.

Dr Nathalie Fontaine, who also spoke at the conference, argued that children as young as four exhibited “callous unemotional traits” such as lack of guilt and empathy that could also suggest future bad behaviour. Linking these features with “conduct problems” such as throwing tantrums could be a strong way to predict who could be anti-social in later life.

Both speakers said that identifying these issues earlier could be important in stopping children from becoming criminals.
How boring would life be without criminals and psychopaths. We need a diverse group of people to keep us alert. Perhaps the people behind these "scientific" experiments believe we should all be clones.

Outlaw Yogi

Re: The right to breed

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:42 pm

Generally the CEOs of corporations and Managing Directors of companies tend to be psychopaths who bullied and used others as stepping stones on their way to the top of the heap, they're far more common than most people realise. And criminals are quite often just individuals who recognise many laws are just moralistic farces and so regard/treat them as such. You'd be hard pressed to find more creativity/enginuity/inventiveness in the general public than in gaols. The only real difference are their reasons for motivation.

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Re: The right to breed

Post by Pastafarian » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:31 pm

Outlaw Yogi wrote:Generally the CEOs of corporations and Managing Directors of companies tend to be psychopaths who bullied and used others as stepping stones on their way to the top of the heap, they're far more common than most people realise. And criminals are quite often just individuals who recognise many laws are just moralistic farces and so regard/treat them as such. You'd be hard pressed to find more creativity/enginuity/inventiveness in the general public than in gaols. The only real difference are their reasons for motivation.



So peoples lives are moralistic farces? Stealing other peoples property is a moralistic farce?
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Re: The right to breed

Post by Neferti » Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:36 pm

Get a grip, Pasta. :D Screaming your objection to a post in a High Pitched Voice, full of indignation, doesn't cut it here in Norm's Land. The place to don the fluffy puffy and wiggy, jiggy, flamboyant outfit stuff is over ---------------------------> :mrgreen:

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Re: The right to breed

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:23 pm

Pastafarian wrote: So peoples lives are moralistic farces?
Indeed, many are.
Pastafarian wrote:Stealing other peoples property is a moralistic farce?
many laws are just moralistic farces and so regard/treat them as such
Would you believe theft/larceny is not the only crime?


Was going to ask if you've ever read your own state's criminal code? or the fed version? but then realised I'm probably the only one here who has.

Ooops, 'cept maybe that taxi driver character.


So Pasta, did you get your high horse when the flying spagetti monster touched you with his noodley appendages? :?

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Re: The right to breed

Post by Swami Dring » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:05 pm

boxy wrote:Interesting article, but seems to raise more questions than it answers. It's very judgemental about the "negative" aspects of low IQ (educational drop out rates, illegitimatacy) but only brushes over the negatives associated with high IQ (mental illness).
Saywhat? :shock: Yougotalinkthere?

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Re: The right to breed

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:44 pm

Maybe you need one like this Swami ..

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Link to article in question.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/only ... 6005179171
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Re: The right to breed

Post by mantra » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:56 pm

Outlaw Yogi wrote:Generally the CEOs of corporations and Managing Directors of companies tend to be psychopaths who bullied and used others as stepping stones on their way to the top of the heap, they're far more common than most people realise. And criminals are quite often just individuals who recognise many laws are just moralistic farces and so regard/treat them as such. You'd be hard pressed to find more creativity/enginuity/inventiveness in the general public than in gaols. The only real difference are their reasons for motivation.
True. Psychopaths are fascinating - as long as you don't get too close to them and just watch them from a distance. I've never been to gaol, but have known a few ex inmates. They are extremely innovative and it's a pity their energy couldn't be directed more constructively - although I doubt too many career crims want redirection.

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Re: The right to breed

Post by boxy » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:16 pm

Swami Dring wrote:
boxy wrote:Interesting article, but seems to raise more questions than it answers. It's very judgemental about the "negative" aspects of low IQ (educational drop out rates, illegitimatacy) but only brushes over the negatives associated with high IQ (mental illness).
Saywhat? :shock: Yougotalinkthere?

Sorryabouttheunspacedwords.Ispilledadrinkonmykeyboardandthespacebardied. :x
I may be going outside the purely IQ related topic, here... but I consider pure IQ as a limited messure (at best). People who continually consider things in a "big picture" type of way (considering ALL relevant factors) are at a mental health disadvantage compared to tunnel visioners.

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