Have we been visited by Aliens I say yes

[HIGHERBEAM]

Ancient Alien Theory

Most people believe in aliens - from ancient visitors to modern day extraterrestrial encounters. Clearly the creation myths of each ancient civilization discuss alien gods who descended from the sky for any number of reasons, some of who allegedly mated with human woman to create bloodlines.

Reality is consciousness created in the matrix of time to study emotions. As we search for the truth behind the illusion about who created the human races, or biogenetic experiments, we look to those who came from the stars, ancient astronauts, creation gods, for our answers.

One must never forget that aliens are physical beings after a fashion, and that creation continues beyond their agendas. They are a sub-routine, for lack of a better word, within our programmed reality. Call it a Grand Design, Master Plan, or whatever term comes to mind, but remember, it had a beginning and is rapidly approaching the end. Watch the signs - internal and external.


Sumerian God Anu
Is he holding the mythical Holy Grail cup?


Zecharia Sitchin - Anunnaki Theory of Creation
Did ancient astronauts seed the human race? If so, what was their agenda? Have these ancient astronauts used planet Earth as a place for their 'science projects', creating race after race using biogenetic manipulation, then wiping everything out and starting again?
According to ancient alien theorists, most of whom have researched the topic for decades, extraterrestrials with superior knowledge of science and engineering landed on Earth thousands of years ago, sharing their expertise with early civilizations and forever changing the course of human history. To this day researchers look for evidence to support this theory.

Ancient alien theory grew out of the centuries-old idea that life exists on other planets, and that humans and extraterrestrials have crossed paths before. The theme of human-alien interaction was thrust into the spotlight in the 1960s, driven by a wave of UFO sightings and popular films like 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968). The space program played no small part in this as well ... if mankind could travel to other planets, why couldn¹t extraterrestrials visit Earth?

Also in 1968, Swiss researcher and author Erich von Däniken published Chariots of the Gods, which became an immediate bestseller. In it, he put forth his hypothesis that, the technologies and religions of many ancient civilizations were given to them by space travelers who were welcomed as gods. He is regarded by many as the father of ancient alien theory, also known as the ancient astronaut theory. Since that time, he has written many other books and appeared in media presenting physical proof of his theories. In 2010 he appeared in the History Channel mini series, "Ancient Aliens".

The types of evidence von Däniken cites can be categorized as follows:

The existence of structures and artifacts have been found which represent higher technological knowledge than is presumed to have existed at the times they were manufactured. Däniken maintains that these artifacts were produced either by extraterrestrial visitors or by humans who learned the necessary knowledge from them.

Vimanas
These, he says, should be interpreted as literal descriptions which have changed during the passage of time and become more obscure. Examples such as: Ezekiel's revelation in Old Testament, which he interprets as a detailed description of a landing spacecraft with angels in the likeness of man. Moses and the directions 'God' gave him to construct the Ark of the Covenant, which is assumed to be a communication device with an alien race. Lot and his extended family being ordered by human like 'angels' to go to the mountains, due to the destruction of the city of Sodom by God. His wife looked back at the possible nuclear explosion, and falling "dead on the spot". Däniken attempts to draw an analogy with the "cargo cults" that formed during and after World War II, when once-isolated tribes in the South Pacific mistook the advanced American and Japanese soldiers for gods.

If aliens visited Earth in the past, could they make an appearance in the future? For ancient alien theorists, the answer is a resounding yes. They believe that, by sharing their views with the world, they can help prepare future generations for the inevitable encounter that will come

In China we find theories about an alien race
called the Dropa who left behind fascinating discs.

The Mayan - Popol Vuh, states,

"Men came from the stars, knowing everything, and they examined
the four corners of the sky and the Earth's round surface."
One has to wonder where the ancient Maya got their advanced
knowledge in astronomy, mathematics, and other physical sciences.

Mayan Calendar
2012
The Mayan Chilam Balaam texts stated,
"Beings descended from the sky in flying vessels...
white men in flying rings, who can touch the sky."

Petroglyphs
Petroglyphs found on cave and mountain walls in many parts of the world,
imply that ancient aliens may have visited the planet.

[Super Nova]

I say NO.

All the ancient paintings and drawings are just wishful thinging fo rthose who want to interpret them that way. By way of example: I really did see the face of an alien (jesus) in my vegemite toast this morning. It was clear. Proof that jesus exist today and is influencing my life.

I believe the following is the most likely reason. (from wikipedia)

Intelligent civilizations are too far apart in space or time
NASA's conception of the Terrestrial Planet FinderIt may be that non-colonizing technologically capable alien civilizations exist, but that they are simply too far apart for meaningful two-way communication.[51] If two civilizations are separated by several thousand light years, it is very possible that one or both cultures may become extinct before meaningful dialogue can be established. Human searches may be able to detect their existence, but communication will remain impossible because of distance. This problem might be ameliorated somewhat if contact/communication is made through a Bracewell probe. In this case at least one partner in the exchange may obtain meaningful information. Alternatively, a civilization may simply broadcast its knowledge, and leave it to the receiver to make what they may of it. This is similar to the transmission of information from ancient civilizations to the present,[52] and humanity has undertaken similar activities like the Arecibo message, which could transfer information about Earth's intelligent species, even if it never yields a response (or does not yield a response in time for humanity to receive it). It is also possible that archaeological evidence of past civilizations may be detected through deep space observations — especially if they left behind large artifacts such as Dyson spheres.

The problem of distance is compounded by the fact that timescales affording a "window of opportunity" for detection or contact might be quite small. Advanced civilizations may periodically arise and fall throughout our galaxy, but this may be such a rare event, relatively speaking, that the odds of two or more such civilizations existing at the same time are low. There may have been intelligent civilizations in the galaxy before the emergence of intelligence on Earth, and there may be intelligent civilizations after its extinction, but it is possible that human beings are the only intelligent civilization in existence now. The term "now" is somewhat complicated by the finite speed of light and the nature of spacetime under relativity. Assuming that an extraterrestrial intelligence is not able to travel to our vicinity at faster-than-light speeds, in order to detect an intelligence 1,000 light-years distant, that intelligence will need to have been active 1,000 years ago. Strictly speaking, only the portions of the universe lying within the past light cone of Earth need be considered, since any civilizations outside it could not be detected.

A related argument holds that other civilizations exist, and are transmitting and exploring, but their signals and probes simply have not arrived yet.[53] However, critics have noted that this is unlikely, since it requires we are at a very special point in time, when the galaxy is transitioning from empty to full. This particular portion is just a tiny fraction of the life of a galaxy, so the odds we exist at such a moment are low.[54]

[HIGHERBEAM]

You need go no further than our current crop of politicians to realise that aliens have sown their seed here on earth.Where did the ancients learn to move enormous blocks of rock to build their temples and monuments with such close tolerances that nothing can fit between,only with laser technology can we achieve such tolerances now days.Where did the ancients learn to place their monuments in perfect alignment with specific galaxies which we are now finding out may contain habital plants except by the guidance from aliens.


Today's modern UFO's and Alien Contacts being reported have a strong similarity to the Ancient descriptions of the "anunnaki" Android Beings. When we look at the descriptions of our modern "grey alien", we can clearly see that they do not look like us, or the anunnaki. Rather, they look like the ancient humanoid depictions of Figurines. The majority of Abduction cases usually have a similar story to them in that the Aliens abducting them will perform medical experience and sometimes experiments having to do with human reproduction. When we analyze the descriptions of Aliens from people who claim to have been abducted, most of the aliens are described as being small grey beings that have large eyes, a bulbous head, and act almost "Android" like. According to a few clues scattered throughout the world, alien beings could have very likely visited the earth long ago. One clue of an ancient alien visitation is found in paintings from ancient cultures that depict strange humanoid creatures. In addition, physical evidence of an ancient alien vistation is seen in artifacts from around the world that show a use of modern technology. Furthermore, ancient markings made on fields, which indicate the use of air travel, are another set of clues that show the earth could have been visited by aliens long ago.

On July 11, 1991, an unidentified flying object was sighted by thousands of people in Mexico City during a solar eclipse. Labeled as the largest mass UFO sighting in history, the event was captured by hundreds of people who pointed their camcorders at the eclipse. The event, which gained extensive media coverage in Mexico, was even used for the top story of Mexico's version of "60 Minutes." Since so many people had seen the strange aircraft hovering in the sky and hundreds of hours of film footage of the craft was recorded, there is an extremely high chance that advanced alien cultures are really visiting the earth. Therefore, if advanced alien civilizations are visiting us now, is there a possibility that they could have visited the earth thousands of years ago? According to a few clues scattered throughout the world, alien beings could have very likely visited the earth long ago. One clue of an ancient alien visitation is found in paintings from ancient cultures that depict strange humanoid creatures. In addition, physical evidence of an ancient alien vistation is seen in artifacts from around the world that show a use of modern technology. Furthermore, ancient markings made on fields, which indicate the use of air travel, are another set of clues that show the earth could have been visited by aliens long ago.

The most obvious clues to an extraterrestrial visit long ago are found in the drawings of ancient cultures. One such drawing is located inside a cave in Kimberly Mountain, a peak on the western side of Australia. Haunting the surface of the cave walls are paintings of several beings with round heads and huge black eyes. Calling the figures in the paintings the Wondjina, the Aborigines consider the beings extremely sacred. The Wondjina, originally drawn in some period between ten thousand to thirty thousand years ago, bear little resemblance to any known earth creature. However, the Wondjina slightly resemble the gray type of aliens reported today by alleged alien abductees. The Wondjina and the Grays look similiar because they both have large, black eyes and a pear-shaped head. Therefore, it is possible that the Wondjina are actually aliens seen by the Aborigines a long time ago. In the Sahara desert, another strange figure painted on the wall of a cave, the "Great Martian God", is located in the Tassili mountains. It was called the "Great Martian God" because it resembled Martians found in comic books. Discovered by Henri Lhote on an expedition after World War II into the mountains, the Martian, along with similiar nearby drawings depicting space men are drawn in a much larger scale than the nearby drawings of people, animals, and ones of Egyptian influence.

John Michell writes in his book, The Flying Saucer Vision: The Holy Grail Restored, that the most striking feature of the Martian and the similiar figures were their round, inhuman heads. Michell describes the beings' heads as if "they are wearing some sort of globular helmet like a diver's." A helmet, a necessity for human space explorers to walk in space, would come in handy for an alien space traveler. Space travel, by the way, is a part of a Hopi legend; the Hopi are a once pueblo-building Native American culture living in Arizona and New Mexico. One of their petroglyphs, called the "Star- blower", tells a story of how the Hopi's ancestors had visited various worlds and traveled through endless space before reaching Earth. The petroglyph, containing several strange, unearthly figures, are very inexplicable to understand for people outside the tribe. Although the Hopi leaders are reluctant to share the details of the legend, the petroglyphs, nevertheless, show strange, possibly alien, beings performing an extraordinary ritual. The paintings of ancient cultures are not the only evidence of a potential extraterrestrial visit in the past; artifacts also give clues about a possible ancient visit by aliens.



According to Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary, the term artifact means "any object made by man, especially with a view to subsequent use." Several ancient artifacts found around the world appear to have been inspired by modern technology. For example, a small, toy-like, gold artifact, found in a thousand year old tomb in Columbia, was first thought to be a type of insect or a flat fish. However, Dr. Ivan Sanderson, a scientist from the United States, studied the object and said it looked too mechanical, like an airplane, to be a natural object. J.A. Ulrich, an expert on aircraft, also looked at the object and admitted that it closely resembled a Swedish SAAB jet. Since the first self-propelled, heavier-than-air craft was not invented until 1903 in North Carolina, a thousand year old jet in South America seems not possible. However, the people in Columbia could have seen a jet constructed by a highly advanced civilization, possibly an alien civilization.

A similiar model aircraft was found in 1898 at an Egyptian tomb near Sakkara. Labeled as a bird, the wooden object was not studied extensively until 1969 by Dr. Khahil Messiha. The object's well engineered proportions and aerodynamic shape, according to aircraft engineers, are ideal enough for it to fly. Again, the Egyptians, like the ancient Colombian culture, could have been influenced by a technologically advanced alien society. Yet another artifact was found on a Stone Age man's neck in Ecuador. On the corpse's neck, a stone amulet shows a man standing on top of a sphere while the sun shines in the backdrop. Erich von Däniken writes in his book, In Search of Ancient Gods: My Pictorial Evidence for the Impossible, that the amulet is remarkable because pre-Inca tribes had the knowledge that they had lived on a sphere. Since it is hard to imagine a prehistoric tribe knowing about the earth's true shape, there may be a possibility that an alien culture, with a method of seeing the earth in outer space, could have shared this knowledge with the tribes. If ancient human cultures were indeed visited by extraterrestrials and unearthly spacecraft, it is possible that the people may have tried to contact the beings in the aircraft with symbols on the ground.

More evidence of an ancient alien visit lies on the surface of the earth. On the plain of Nasca, south of Lima, Peru, a series of straight, parallel lines run across for miles and appear from the air to be an ancient landing ground for aircraft. According to writer Thomas Michell, the lines are extremely difficult to be seen from the ground. "It is impossible that men without aeroplanes could ever have seen them, for even from an elevation of a few hundred feet they are invisible." Since air strips were not needed until the twentieth century, the lines, assuming the pre-Inca cultures used them for landing purposes, could have been used by the aircraft of a highly advanced alien race. Also on the Nasca plain, large drawings of birds, monkeys, lizards, and insects have been sighted from high altitudes. Again, these land carvings were constructed by people of a time from around possibly fifteen centuries ago, before the formation of the Inca empire. Covering an area of sixty miles, these figures next to the mysterious lines can only be seen best from the sky. Charles Berlitz points out in his book, Mysteries From Forgotten Worlds, that the message in these prehistoric drawings "finds an echo in an ancient Peruvian tradition in a legend about the goddess Orejona landing in a great ship from the skies"; the goddess Orejona, in other words, could be interpreted as an alien being landing in its spacecraft.

Other land creations around the world also must be seen from the sky in order to make them out. For example, Dragon Hill, a round and flat, artificial mound in England, is accompanied by several chalk figures including one called the Berkshire White Horse. Like the Nasca figures in South America, the White Horse and neighboring British land markings were not only built by an ancient culture but were meant to be seen from high altitudes. Since these figures can only be seen from the sky and couldn't have been seen by the prehistoric technology, it is possible that the early inhabitants of Great Britain knew of a culture, possibly an alien culture, who had the technology to see these drawings carved into the earth. The ancient land markings, like the old paintings and artifacts, also show that the earth could have been visited by extraterrestrial life.

As archaeologists continue to find more strange remains of ancient cultures, they may discover an important lost part of human history. Since UFOs are reported frequently in the twentieth century, they could have been also reported thousands of years ago. With clues like ancient paintings showing strange beings, old artifacts displaying modern day technology, and prehistoric land carvings waiting to be seen from the sky, there is a possibility that the ancient world could have been influenced by an advanced alien civilization.

[AiA in Atlanta]

To say we are alone in the universe strikes me as absurd yet a lot of what passes as close encounters are probably the UFO meme gone wild.

[TomB]

OMG what a load of fucking bollocks. There are perfectly reasonable explanations for all these 'wonders' which need nothing more than a large workforce, some rudimentary tools and plenty of time. If you nutbags would ask the right questions of the right people you would'nt believe this shite. Instead you all stand around in a group of like minded mushroom eaters genuflecting to the one who can come up with the most outrageous story and then demand that everyone else proves it not to be true.

[HIGHERBEAM]

TomB if you have any evidence disproving, post it because your rant in a rational debate means nothing more than a rant.

[TomB]

....... then demand that everyone else proves it not to be true.

As predicted.

Here's my proof - lex parsimoniae

[Outlaw Yogi]

Considering that life on Earth most likely began with a virus hitching a ride on an asteroid, it seems highly improbable virus infected asteroids would only hit our planet.


Nasa discovers 50 new habitable planets
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/nasa-discove ... 278-2.html

Washington: An orbiting NASA telescope is finding whole new worlds of possibilities in the search for alien life, spotting more than 50 potential planets that appear to be in the habitable zone. In just a year of peering out at a small slice of the galaxy, the Kepler telescope has discovered 1,235 possible planets outside our solar system. Amazingly 54 of them are seemingly in the zone that could be hospitable to life - that is, not too hot or too cold, Kepler chief scientist William Borucki said.

[Pastafarian]

Higherbeam anyone who actually believes any of the stuff you posted is on crack.

[HIGHERBEAM]

Higherbeam anyone who actually believes any of the stuff you posted is on crack.

I dont get into personal attacks anymore and will only debate people that want to debate and not launch personal attacks.

When you come back do you want to pick a topic for us to take opposing sides on?