Flood tax, carbon tax

[Jovial Monk]

Part of that is that private schools are always building, public schools struggle to get anything built. Standards for PS buildings are also higher. A lot of bullshit got talked about the BER, 3 enquiries have found little waste.

[Ethnic]

Labor-influenced enquiries with heavy restrictions on what could be investigated and published found little waste. Get it right, Monk. I know you're a Labor man but not even you can defend this disaster of a program and be left with any credibility. Most public school principals believed they were ripped off and countless P&Cs have been appalled by what has occured in their local schools.

[Jovial Monk]

Well, believe the Australian then. I never said there was no waste, waste is expected when you rush out a big stimulus program. Even the Auditor General had little adverse comment to make. If you want waste look a the $40Bn Regional Partnerships (commonly called Regional Rorts for good reason) and the Regional Rorts program was not run out rapidly for stimulus purposes. $40Bn gone and nothing much to show for it. Not to speak of the $300m bribes to Sadam paid by AWB when that was still a government body—not that royal commission got really, really nobbled by dear old Howard.

[IQS.RLOW]

Fuck off dickhead. The fact that you still defend the Labor home burning and rorting initiative shatters any illusion you would like to project of being able to sort shit from clay and you are up to your eyeballs in shit.

If you add up all the labor botches that they pissed up against the wall there would be plenty of money for QLD- but no, typical liebor has spent the generous bank account left to it by the coalition and sunk us further into the mire

Fuel botch
Whale botch
Grocery watch
etc

Only tards fell for these shitheels and only tards still defend them

[Jovial Monk]

“not that royal commission” should read “now that royal commission”

And hobbled that was with Howard best buddy as royal commissioner and limited terms of reference. That RC was mainly notable for Downer’s girlish giggling and the total contempt for procedure shown by Howard, Vaile and Downer.

[mantra]

why is a public school paying a certain amount of dollars for a new classroom with minimal features while the private school down the road built a larger classroom with all the features needed for learning and comfort at half the price at what the public school paid? This isn't about airconditioners or asbestos this is about public money being spent on bureaucrats and Labor mates rather than what the money was intended for. It will be the same story for the flood levy.

Yes - there has been a lot of waste, but there are problems filtering through from the private school sector also. A large construction company recently went bust leaving 4 private schools with unfinished projects and not so long ago a walkway collapsed through faulty workmanship. It's early days and many of the problems in the buildings won't be immediately noticeable - but they will be - as those of us know who have dealt with private construction companies.

For such a massive rollout - the government has to have layers of bureaucracy. Can you imagine the nightmare if all public schools were responsible for their own contractual building work and the government was just billed for the final amount? The scheme would be even more vulnerable to rort than people assume it already is.

The public school buildings have to be permanent and safe. The only way to do that is to have thorough checks and balances and this is costly. Otherwise we can look forward to faulty buildings and huge lawsuits for the next few decades - similar to the problems the private sector is beginning to experience.

[Jovial Monk]

Yes that walkway collapsed in a private school—that was before the BER actually started.

[Outlaw Yogi]

For a carbon tax to have been effective, it really should have been implemented 20+ years ago, but I doubt a carbon tax per se will be adopted, because we're getting the clayton's carbon tax, dubbed ETS. Which is a scheme for selling licenses to pollute more than we do now. The reason we're adopting the failed Euro model is because it pretends to be seen to be doing something while remaining ineffective, so is really doing nothing. Which keeps the hydrocarbon fuels industry happy.

Anyway this is how the Euro model is currently going ....


Carbon fraud may force longer closure of EU emissions trading
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... rity-delay

[IQS.RLOW]

Yep, anytime the left stick their grubby little hands anywhere near an economy they fuck it up and it becomes a rort.

Just look at the pink batts and BER fiasco from this insipid govt. Both total abject failures and riddled with rorting.

An ETS/Carbon tax will be no diferent

[IQS.RLOW]

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