Atheism leads to Futility.

[Ethnic]

Yeah... you are right Ethnic... why waste my time sharing things I've given serious consideration and wish to revisit in the hope of new insight when there are people like you here or Phemanderac over at D&R who will shit on you for doing so.

No probs... got the message... it's just a game and let the game play on!

You seem quite bitter and twisted and offer nothing except pathetic insults about teachers. Why do you hate teachers so much? Is it because they too hoped that you would one day grow up, face reality and cease chugging down cheap wine and smoking in the toilets?

You aren't even worthy of being my enemy. I pity your loser existence. As for the rest of your garbage, is it too insensitive at this time to say "cry me a fucking river?" But since you can't handle adults, I will no longer communicate with you. Obviously dealing with rational adults interferes with your upside down, house of straw, gingerbread life.

[Sappho]

You aren't even worthy of being my enemy. I pity your loser existence. As for the rest of your garbage, is it too insensitive at this time to say "cry me a fucking river?" But since you can't handle adults, I will no longer communicate with you. Obviously dealing with rational adults interferes with your upside down, house of straw, gingerbread life.

"Is your real name Nutty McFuckingnuts?"

[mantra]

I pity your loser existence.

Ethnic - we all feel differently about what life has to offer. What's good for someone to keep healthy - isn't good for another. Sappho is a thinker and I can understand why she wants to engage in a profound topic. I used to want to do the same on these forums, but know that a thoughtful response is becoming increasingly difficult to find.

I know that you write an excellent post when you want to and know that you are a good teacher through these posts - it's just when you respond like a navvy - you're going to get it back. This is the way of these boards.

[Jovial Monk]

Trouble is, Mantra, to be profound you have to be capable of thinking profoundly. Sappho sort of wants to be profound but isn’t capable of achieving it.

[Ethnic]

Ethnic - we all feel differently about what life has to offer. What's good for someone to keep healthy - isn't good for another. Sappho is a thinker and I can understand why she wants to engage in a profound topic. I used to want to do the same on these forums, but know that a thoughtful response is becoming increasingly difficult to find.

I know that you write an excellent post when you want to and know that you are a good teacher through these posts - it's just when you respond like a navvy - you're going to get it back. This is the way of these boards.

Mantra I wrote a scientific version of the meaning of life and you will not get any biologist disagreeing with the fact that we are here because of the evolutionary desire to pass on genes. It's all part of the survival of the species. Now if Saffron or whatever her fucking name is demands only that spiritual hippy definitions of the meaning of life be discussed, well, that is not a democratic debate. I am a religious person but having spent my entire life listening to and reading peoples' spiritual interpretations of the meaning of life is, quite frankly, getting on my nerves because it unnecessarily confuses people and makes mountains out of molehills. I post a comment describing the meaning of life from a biology perspective and Sappy's response is to call me an ugly bitch and criticise teachers. All because I wrote something that she didn't like reading. She is a child seeking to justify her own miserable existence. I have a fulfilling life and am surrounded by terrific people and I ain't in no mood to read anymore of that idiot's dribble and vile insults.

[mantra]

Mantra I wrote a scientific version of the meaning of life and you will not get any biologist disagreeing with the fact that we are here because of the evolutionary desire to pass on genes. It's all part of the survival of the species. Now if Saffron or whatever her fucking name is demands only that spiritual hippy definitions of the meaning of life be discussed, well, that is not a democratic debate. I am a religious person but having spent my entire life listening to and reading peoples' spiritual interpretations of the meaning of life is, quite frankly, getting on my nerves because it unnecessarily confuses people and makes mountains out of molehills. I post a comment describing the meaning of life from a biology perspective and Sappy's response is to call me an ugly bitch and criticise teachers. All because I wrote something that she didn't like reading. She is a child seeking to justify her own miserable existence. I have a fulfilling life and am surrounded by terrific people and I ain't in no mood to read anymore of that idiot's dribble and vile insults.

No-one doubts we're here to procreate Ethnic - and that applies to all living creatures, but when our children grow up and leave the nest - what then is the meaning of our existence?

At times I've battled with thoughts of futility - mainly because I loved having children and raising them, and now they've grown up and flown away. I've had to search (being a hippy of course) for the meaning of life all over again which hasn't been that easy. We use our basic instincts when procreating, but when these are being put to pasture - we have to find something else to not only fulfill us - but motivate us. When you've done everything that you've set out to do in life - it can be a chore to find ongoing stimulation.

What exactly is it about a god created universe, that makes it less prone to causality? Just because you had an imaginary jackass tell you that you have free will, means you have it?

I agree with the above. I don't believe there is such a thing as free will. From the moment we're born, we are subject to serious restrictions. If we had free will - we wouldn't have gaols.

[Ethnic]

No-one doubts we're here to procreate Ethnic - and that applies to all living creatures, but when our children grow up and leave the nest - what then is the meaning of our existence?

At times I've battled with thoughts of futility - mainly because I loved having children and raising them, and now they've grown up and flown away. I've had to search (being a hippy of course) for the meaning of life all over again which hasn't been that easy. We use our basic instincts when procreating, but when these are being put to pasture - we have to find something else to not only fulfill us - but motivate us. When you've done everything that you've set out to do in life - it can be a chore to find ongoing stimulation.

Well that's the reality of living longer lives - we have to keep finding things to do for an extra 30 or 40 years. Our ancestors that lived shorter life spans didn't have to worry about that. Doesn't mean that our lives become meaningless once our children leave. It just means that you've done your job and now it's time to enjoy life. That might explain why so many retirees travel and go on adventures. It sounds like families have become too separated in recent times. In ye olden days your children would have their own children and you'd play a part in their upbringing and so on. Now many grandparents aren't connected to their grandchildren like they used to be.

[Jovial Monk]

It is called the nuclear family.

[Ned Kelly]

I wonder if Court Jester will turn up here? Sappho has done a dummy spit over at D@R, and seems to have disappeared in a puff of smoke out of which Court Jester emerged over there!

Phemanderic and Yankee Rose beat her at her own bull-shit game!! Pretty much in the same way the Potty Mouthed Wog has done here.

[Ethnic]

I agree with the above. I don't believe there is such a thing as free will. From the moment we're born, we are subject to serious restrictions. If we had free will - we wouldn't have gaols.

Humans have free will - if we want to we could go and kill someone. However our free will is restricted because humans have become intelligent enough to believe in standards and structures that they insist must be reflected in our local, state and federal laws. We restrict our own free will in order to maintain civility. The restrictions of free will are in place because the majority of a community want it to be. Otherwise a community without consequences becomes a community of ultimate chaos, fear and paranoia.