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Re: 87% take up the NBN

Post by IQSRLOW » Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:52 pm

He'll be dead as I will. But in that Year, those who are alive will be still paying for the bad decisions made by this incompetent Labor govt because the cost WILL blow out. New technology will come along, advanced by other countries with higher populations that drive the market and technology
Fixxed

Jovial Monk

Re: 87% take up the NBN

Post by Jovial Monk » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:07 pm

Yes!
Fielding backs Telstra bill, clearing way for NBN

Family First Senator Steve Fielding says he will vote in favour of a bill that splits Telstra, paving the way for the set up of the National Broadband Network.

The Government had been working to convince Senator Fielding and independent Senator Nick Xenophon to support the bill.

This afternoon the Government relented to pressure from Senator Xenophon and released a summary of the business plan for the NBN.

He has also agreed to back the bill, ensuring it will pass.

The Opposition has indicated it may try to delay a vote, but the Government has the numbers to cut debate and pass the bill tomorrow before Parliament rises for the year.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... ion=justin

So the way ahead is clear for the NBN! Excellent!

Ned Kelly

Re: 87% take up the NBN

Post by Ned Kelly » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:34 pm

I am surprised (and very pleased) that Feilding made that move. He is fucked as of July next year, so I expected him to be obstructionist of ALP Policy. Oh well, there yo go.

Jovial Monk

Re: 87% take up the NBN

Post by Jovial Monk » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:37 pm

He did have a nice old dummy spit when he found he lost his Senate spot. Guess he has had second thoughts and don’t want his Christian buddies labelled as immature arsewipes.
"Stalling this legislation so the Productivity Commission can do a cost-benefit analysis is just a smokescreen by the coalition to hide the fact that they are plain and simple against building an NBN," the Victorian senator said.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/br ... 5960425478
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Ned Kelly

Re: 87% take up the NBN

Post by Ned Kelly » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:43 pm

Yes, that is the probable explanation.

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Re: 87% take up the NBN

Post by Leftwinger » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:04 am

IQSRLOW wrote:
but the real motivation at the core looks quite transparent - it's about party politics and ideology
lol... That's hilarious coming from the queen of ideologues. I guess it never crossed your mind that some people don't want a useless and incompetent govt presiding over a scheme they have no hope of implementing efficiently of cost effectively

shouldn't you be somewhere masturbating to Hugo Chavez?
Everyone will benefit IQ. While everyone else will find uses that will enrich our society, you yourself will probably be able to access real-time, 3D interactive farm animal porn, or whatever other sorts of deviant stuff you're into ;)

Jovial Monk

Re: 87% take up the NBN

Post by Jovial Monk » Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:13 am

Every installation so far has been on time and under budget. The people running NBN Co know their stuff. This isn’t a stimulus program done in a rush. And the Libs hate it because it is a Labor Party program, Labor succeeding where they failed. Eighteen different broadband policies by the Howard govt!

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Re: 87% take up the NBN

Post by Jovial Monk » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:42 am

Hehehehehe poor old Deepshit:
The NBN relies on, according to their amateurish Business Case, signing up 8.3 million customers. That's roughly 80% of all premises in the country. At the moment only about 5 million subscribers (ABS data) access the internet using a fixed line. Where are the other 3 million imaginary idiots coming from?

And as fixed line access actually falls we can expect those hooking up to the White Elephant to be a dying breed of stay at home internet addicts.
Fixed line access is not falling Deepshit! Search for broadband plans, see all those “naked” plans? That is for people who have let their line go for phone calls but still use that line for ADSL.

Where will the other 3 million users come from?
1. 10% of internet users are still on dialup. I think they will sign on in droves!

2. Users like me, on pair gain due to Liberal/Telstra neglect will gladly swap 0.5-5mbps for 25-100mbps NBN, oh yeah!

3. Users that are connected via a RIMS or where Telstra has ruled DSLAMS can’t be fitted or no more DSLAMs can be fitted

4. The services that can be provided by the NBN, the improvement in services it will provide will see more people sign up to the internet

I think 3m users minimum will be found. The NBN will also offer very cheap phone service.

There was one very interesting statistic in the business case summary released:
ADSL data transfer per person in June 2010
9.2Gb via ADSL
1.2Gb via wireless

And, of course, all the wireless transmitters Deepshit loves so much tho he is sticking with ADSL Image will all be backwired with NBN fibre!
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Re: 87% take up the NBN

Post by Leftwinger » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:55 am

Public services such as health and education will be heavy users of the enhanced technology, as will the non-government providers of these same things.

I can tell everyone from my own experience that thanks to the school rennovation programme, we now have technology in schools that was more or less only the stuff of science fiction comics when I was at school. When it becomes connected to a fully functioning optic-fibre NBN, the applications in education will be mind blowing.

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Re: 87% take up the NBN

Post by IQSRLOW » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:06 am

IQSRLOW wrote:
Jovial Monk wrote:Oh yeah, and “people letting go their landlines”? Only for phone! Have a look at broadband plans and you see all these plans for “naked ADSL.” That is people using their phone lines for ADSL only. Nobody goes wireless unless Telstra”s long running neglect of the copper has them on pair gain, or they are on a RIMS or whatever. Wireless doesn’t cut it you see!
:roll:
Why do you lie?
THE number of people ditching fixed-line telephone services in favour of mobiles is larger than previously thought; just two-thirds of young Australians connect landlines when they move out of home.

About 14 per cent of mobile-phone users no longer have a fixed-line telephone at home, says a survey of 18,000 people by the Australian Communications and Media Authority.

This is bad news for Telstra, which owns and operates the copper wire telephone network and has experienced declining revenue from this high margin product line. Its revenue from fixed-line rental and call tariffs has declined from about $7 billion in 2006 to $5.8 billion last financial year.
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Of those choosing to keep their fixed telephone line, a third said it was convenient or cheaper than mobile, and just 13 per cent said it was because fixed lines offer better quality or more reliable service.
About 7 per cent of respondents said they kept a fixed line for an internet connection.

The number of fixed telephone lines has remained at 10.7 million since June 2000, but the number of mobile telephone connections has increased from 8 million to 24.2 million in the same period.

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