Novel alternatives to traditional prisons

[mellie]

Sure there's island prisons, Nauru , but why not re- introduce "hard labour " and exploit criminals to our economic advantage?
There's plenty of opportunity to develop parts of Australia which are considered "too far outback" ... they could be utilised for teaching trades, mining sector work, waste management etc. Will open plane prisons be the way of the future in OECD countries with the right geographical circumstances, perhaps also to lay the foundations for future towns?
Once the towns are finished, the prison itself moves on to develop new parts of Australia.

Obviously this sort of arrangement wouldn't be suitable for all inmates, but for the majority of them it would enhance their skill sets, they would learn a trade,and at least have something to work towards and look forward to doing upon release.

This would be a great opportunity to train youth who would otherwise spiral into a cycle of reoffending too.

Investors could opt in also, developers too.

Could something like this work?

We have the technology to track humans these days, they would be free to roam around their own neighbourhoods ( this opposed to prison wings) there would be currency, local pubs, and facilities you'd expect to find in most regional towns, the only point of difference is they will be required to work in order to partake in community venues like local hotel and so forth, and work they will because they will have streets, hotels, arcades etc named after them, have a degree of creative input into their particular projects, and for once, have something to feel good about themselves.

Seems odd to expect that caging humans like animals will result in them becoming more human, less antisocial, more inclined to fit in with mainstream society upon release

Perhaps if we made our mainstream prisons more like mainstream society then the transition would be more effective?

I'm not referring to those with serious psychiatric disorders aka the criminaly insane, of course, they couldn't be trusted to participate in something like this.

[tllwd]

Penal colonies are not "novel" system, it was practiced in some or other form long time ago in ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia. There is theory that original Hebrews were exiles from Sumer kicked out into desert for refusing to warship all but One G_d.

More modern examples are forced penal settlements in New World from western Europe, katorga (later part of GULAG and now FSIN) in Russian Siberia, "Falkland Islands" in "Brave New World", perhaps Moon, Mars, etc. colonies in future.

This did not reduce crime and in some cases had unintended consequences.

[Black Orchid]

We already have penal work camps in several states.

[mellie]

No, I mean novel for Australia, in term of building entire new cities, out west.
Yes, we began as a penal settlement, but this will be a modern, better planned extension of our original foundations.

Sometimes, history repeats itself, and needs to.


Think, project home estates.

The convicts move on, new settlers move in.

[mellie]

Just think about it, we have a building and construction lag, projects which we're due to start two years ago from Albos housing future fund that's yet to build it's first house apparently and according to Albo hasn't msterialised due to chronic labour shortages within the building and construction industry, so let's train up prisoners, give them a career prospect for when they're released from prison, and in return, they'll be building new suburbs or entire new towns, even cities then move on to the next project.
They'll be overseen by qualified others and will learn hands-on and be given laptops to complete certificates, diplomas or potentially even degrees, "free" which is a bargain when you consider the cost of reoffending and being re- incarcerated in a prison.

It makes sense, and will work.

These project sites won't be dwellings for convicts themselves, they'll be estates with pre- approved and already built homes close to adequate infrastructure because the hold-ups with building a new home are not only the building and construction industries labour shortages, it's the approval of housing plans, engineering, inspections etc. Imagine being able to buy a new home like you buy a new car, rather than a show room, a show village of already completed brand new homes. Yes, developers already do this, but if say we had the $$ backing of Australians housing future fund, and a limitless supply of labourer's, then we might actually get the job done.

The current arrangement was doomed to fail, despite our federal government awarding multibillion dollar contracts to a hand-full of select companies who like I said, have yet to pick up tools and build a single house, two years on from being awarded these public housing contracts.

Onyu Albo!!! They saw him coming

We are looking at a critical shortage of homes within the next ten years, made worse by some idiot who thought doubling down and immigrating a million immigrants who lied and said they had building etc credentials when in fact, the vast majority had none or had minimal experience or industry training.

My local mechanic employed an Indian mechanic to help with his busy workshop, whom allegedly had 10 years experience under his belt YET had to be instructed which direction to turn the spanner inorder to remove wheel nuts.
He then confessed to not having any prior industry training and nonchalantly left the workshop then went straight onto Centrelink benefits. The government didn't even do an investigation, because it's so common, it's expected.

Were they sent back to India for fraudulently submitting forged documents to the Australian immigrations department? Charged even to deter other would be frauds? No, they are being incentivised and rewarded Centrelink payments and are door- dashing on the side, not even paying tax.

Wake up Australia ,

Bottom line, we need labourer's fast, if you think our housing crisis will resolve itself, think again.

[mellie]

The only thing getting in the way of commonsense is greed and the deals Labor have already struck with big developers ( who prioritise private builds before their government contracts) .....and yet still, 2 years on and not a single house has been built.

Not a single one!

I think Australia has been hijacked by a wayward and shafty company of crooks functioning as our federal government and is about to crash and burn.

What a mess an incoming government will be forced to contend with, but isn't this the Labor way?
They always handover a car wreck to an incoming government

But the next handover will be a plane-wreck, and of course, who suffers and are left to pick up the pieces?

Albos been doing some rather dirty deeds, in one breath he opposes the genocide occurring in Gaza, yet he continues to contribute weapons and parts for broken weapons to Israel so they may finish the job.

Similarly, he's promised an Australian housing future fund, yet has awarded contracts to companies who have no start- date in sight.

He promises the world and doesn't even deliver an atlas, yet the left continues to lap-up his historical nonsense of personal hardship as a child.

The man's a crook, and has his stubby little fingers in everything from our corrupt gambling to building industries and is a human wrecking ball who has done absolutely nothing to make Australia a better place.

Name one thing Albos achieved, just one!

[mellie]

I could detail multiple ideas to repair our country, as could many of you here I'm sure, but what would be the point?
Our governments don't want solutions, or revolutionary change for the better, they want to pick-up sticks/tools and benefit from their predecessors corruption themselves, and so the cycle of failure and corruption continues.

Same dogs, different spots. Red/blue.

Those ministers with an aptitude for positive change get sent to the back bench.

The message is clear, shut up, keep your nose down tow the party line and say absolutly nothing.

They're in it for themselves and have very little regard for Australia's future.

Afterall, they won't be here, they'll be long gone, or at least long retired on their golden parliamentary pensions which come from where again?

Australia, we need to buck- up, stand up, and start demanding transparency and accountability. Or are we no better than China's down trodden citizens who just vote how they're instructed to vote?

In dystopian 1984 Orwellian style?

Is this what a free democratic young vibrant nation with so much potential should look like?

Here we are supposedly standing-up for and liberating other nations people, when we should start focusing on what's crumbling within our own countries backyard.

Again, wakeup Australia

[mellie]

Why did the Liberal party call itself Liberal again?
Likewise, why did Labor call itself Labor?

Both leading parties have completely lost the plot, have become engorged with greed and corruption.

This will only get worse if we continue allowing them to get away with it.

Both parties need to be fumigated.

Demand better Australia, we are more capable than we think and can demand better.

Remember, the government is a reflection of ourselves FIRST as a nation of lazy, self absorbed, indulged entitled cockroaches who foster a philosophy of " Blow you Jack, I can swim."


And this nation-wide ethic didn't happen overnight but will be what destroys us in the end.

Remember, history repeats itself, and empires do rise and fall.

[mellie]

The current leaders of both parties represent a "failing" global agenda, and both need to go.
Independence is the way forward, whilst maintaining alliances, with a modicum of reserve and autonomy.

The new world order has failed, back to the drawing board if we are to survive an impending global financial catastrophe.

New Zealand, Scandinavian countries, Japan.... are on the right track.

Let's not become part of the global problem, let's be part of a new world solution.

One of empathy and resilience and a desire to do the right thing for a change, rather than screw lesser others over.

Be an example, a leader, so what was the point of creating a multicultural utopian nation to begin with if not as cannon fodder and to prop-up wealthier greedier nations economies?

Are we an enslaved nation or an alliance ???

Who's really calling the shots when it comes to an international production-line of weapons of mass destruction?

And have those who have been calling the global shot's gone too far and have effectively destroyed themselves in the process?

The global war machine that was Israel has gone into liquidation, and their alliances are scrambling like rats to save political face towards their own nations constituents, whilst attempting to convince their own left- lead nations of their false disapproval towards what's occurring in the Middle-East, when they themselves formed part of the global production-line of weapons and parts themselves to begin with.

Hypocrisy much?

HAMAS vrs the leftard world, effectively!

Interesting dynamics, the radical conservative HAMAS -vrs- the radicalised far-left global government that ultimately is the UN.

See, thing's aren't always as they seem at first. Sometimes we need to peel back the layer's to see the ultimate truth.

We need a centrist conservative government, one that's willing to embrace change for the better, rather than continuing on from where it's predecessors ( Lib or Lab) left off.

So many industries require urgent regulatory change, they're behaviour I liken to pirates, criminally being allowed to escape consequences, culpability.

How many suicides occur each year because financial advisers gambol away every- day Australians superannuation and without consequence?

The government and it's lack of regulation is ultimately accountable I think.

The Australian government has enabled it to occur to begin with, just as its sent fighter planes and spare parts for weapons against vulnerable people to Israel, who our government falsely proclaims to support and defend.

Like I said, time for a clean sweep of parliament itself.

They have all ( bar a few) failed the ultimate character test.

Truth, Transparency, Trust.