Man or Ape?

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In 1976, a bald chimpanzee with eerily human traits shocked the world. Nicknamed the “Humanzee,” Oliver walked on two legs, preferred human company, and defied scientific explanation. Was he a human-chimp hybrid? A missing link? Or something science had never seen before?

[mellie]

In 1976, a bald chimpanzee with eerily human traits shocked the world. Nicknamed the “Humanzee,” Oliver walked on two legs, preferred human company, and defied scientific explanation. Was he a human-chimp hybrid? A missing link? Or something science had never seen before?

My cat walks upright on two legs when he gets impatient, when I'm shredding his chicken into his bowl on the bench and also preferes human company. This doesn't mean he's human though, and like the chimp, just means he's spent most of his life around humans and knows no better. Wasn't there a story about a child being raised by wolves and running along on all fours, howling, and seemingly communicating with his wild dog pack over in Russia?

May have been over that way. Can't recall

[Bobby]

In 1976, a bald chimpanzee with eerily human traits shocked the world. Nicknamed the “Humanzee,” Oliver walked on two legs, preferred human company, and defied scientific explanation. Was he a human-chimp hybrid? A missing link? Or something science had never seen before?

It's the old case of - "monkey see monkey do"

It just copies humans.

[Jasin]

Wow Tallowood. You really put up a very interesting Topic.
For some reason, I've never heard of Oliver. Much have I looked into the research done on the possibility of 'ancient' Homo branches that could have survived over the ages at least up until Sapiens gaining 'global' awareness... and the start of environmental devouring.
From Aborigine stories from old telling of 'little old ones' to other stories from around the world of similar discription that hint of sub-Homo people's existing. Alas, all these tales are in themselves old tales.
So if Oliver, who clearly shows traits that excell beyond just Ape, to a sublime very very primitive connection to human traits. I would, at a quick assumption consider Oliver a branch of Austropelithicus that somehow had survived in the green heart of Africa with much isolation. At the most, such a branch that had to occasionally mate with Chimps sadly, due to dwindling numbers. But I immediately saw a very primitive, very ancient branch of Homo species, straight away more so than the hybrid factor that the clip narrative pushed at the start.
My anger grew at how such a 'being' had to endure the likes of America (& Nihon) 'Media'. Probably the worst human connection such a being could be exposed to.
Homo Floriensis and other Homo species fossils show a remarkable similarity.
Although I doubt very much, under today's compromised habitats. That any ancient branches are able to survive (and bigfoot was a hoax proven) today. But for a moment, we were lucky and yet sadly, to have seen possibly the last of the 'little old ones'.
Thankyou for sharing.

[mellie]

Wow Tallowood. You really put up a very interesting Topic.
For some reason, I've never heard of Oliver. Much have I looked into the research done on the possibility of 'ancient' Homo branches that could have survived over the ages at least up until Sapiens gaining 'global' awareness... and the start of environmental devouring.
From Aborigine stories from old telling of 'little old ones' to other stories from around the world of similar discription that hint of sub-Homo people's existing. Alas, all these tales are in themselves old tales.
So if Oliver, who clearly shows traits that excell beyond just Ape, to a sublime very very primitive connection to human traits. I would, at a quick assumption consider Oliver a branch of Austropelithicus that somehow had survived in the green heart of Africa with much isolation. At the most, such a branch that had to occasionally mate with Chimps sadly, due to dwindling numbers. But I immediately saw a very primitive, very ancient branch of Homo species, straight away more so than the hybrid factor that the clip narrative pushed at the start.
My anger grew at how such a 'being' had to endure the likes of America (& Nihon) 'Media'. Probably the worst human connection such a being could be exposed to.
Homo Floriensis and other Homo species fossils show a remarkable similarity.
Although I doubt very much, under today's compromised habitats. That any ancient branches are able to survive (and bigfoot was a hoax proven) today. But for a moment, we were lucky and yet sadly, to have seen possibly the last of the 'little old ones'.
Thankyou for sharing.

From ancient races like Aboriginals, at least there's a semblance of possible truth to it, like the dreamtime stories, they get handed down from one gen to the next, but this chimp looks and acts like any other well trained chimpanzee of the circus era, when it was quite common to see humanised chimpanzees, monkeys in general.
These days, there's expectations placed on zoo keeper's treating them like they are, as wild animals, rather than putting clothes on them, forcing them to walk upright, smoke cigars, wear nappies, and do cute tricks or perform in circuses.

It's garbage, it's a bloody monkey, the man's an idiot if he thinks he's found the missing link, I think he's missing a few springs himself.

[mellie]

The chimpanzee might have the some skin condition resulting in aggressive hairloss and be capable of terrifying small children and journalists in public places, but it doesn't mean Oliver's a human, or Peter Dutton even . He's not a monster, he's not!!!

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Wasn't there a story about a child being raised by wolves and running along on all fours, howling, and seemingly communicating with his wild dog pack over in Russia?

May have been over that way. Can't recall

There are tons of stories about feral children all over time and space.

[mellie]

Exactly, and even more true documented account's of animals taking care of another species young.

So if animals can nurture another species young, what the feck is wrong with us humans whereby be can't even live in the same neighbourhood amongst others who are the same species, albeit a different culture, race, colour etc????

I think it comes down to people feeling uncomfortable with differences in general, similarly, right-wing voters prefer to post among others who share their views.

Same with the left.


But must we hate?

Animals don't hate, they just love or avoid settings which result in uncomfortable feelings.

Why do some people seek this out?

[tllwd]

If the Big Bang theory is correct then the universe we are in has started with violence and ripple of it permeate it all the time and everywhere.

[mellie]

If the Big Bang theory is correct then the universe we are in has started with violence and ripple of it permeate it all the time and everywhere.

I love the show,'Big bang theory' but don't believe we are just the product of a bunch of particles smashing violently together... I think there's much more to us than this.

Sorry Sheldon.