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Covid inquiry results today.

Post by Bobby » Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:24 pm

Covid inquiry results today.
No mention of charges of crimes against humanity
for despots like Dan Andrews:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-29/ ... /104531920


Review of COVID response finds Australians unlikely to accept lockdowns again

By political reporter Tom Crowley

    Topic:Epidemics and Pandemics

2h ago

In short:

A review of Australia's COVID-19 response hails "courageous decisions" and "decisive" action early in the pandemic, but says social licence has been eroded by lengthy restrictions that were poorly communicated.

The review makes recommendations for "the next pandemic", including better preparedness and clear delineation of responsibilities between federal, state and territory governments.
What's next?

The government says it plans to establish what it is calling a Centre for Disease Control, a national public health body, by the start of 2026.

Australia's COVID-19 response frayed after early successes, damaging the public's trust and making it unlikely that lockdowns or other harsh restrictions will be tolerated again, a federal government review has found.

The review hailed "courageous decisions" taken by leaders early in the pandemic, without which it concluded the pandemic death toll would have been several times larger, but said cracks started to emerge as the pandemic wore on and communication was often poor, undermining public confidence.

"Trust has also been eroded, and many of the measures taken during COVID-19 are unlikely to be accepted by the population again," the reviewers said.

Recommendations focused on better preparedness and co-ordination between levels of government, to improve readiness for future pandemics. Studies of the impact on children and on population-wide mental health were also recommended.

But the reviewers – senior public servant Robyn Kruk, epidemiologist Professor Catherine Bennett and economist Dr Angela Jackson – also offered wider commentary on the effectiveness of border closures, lockdowns, school closures, vaccine mandates and aged care strategies.

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Re: Covid inquiry results today.

Post by Bobby » Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:25 pm

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaki ... 165b0384d5

Several measures in Australia’s Covid response would not be accepted again,
Covid-19 Inquiry report finds


Jessica Wang
2 hours ago.
Updated 2 minutes ago


Australians are “unlikely” to accept large-scale Covid-19 measures and restrictions in an inevitable future pandemic, with “heavy-handed” rules and large-scale vaccine mandates key factors to eroding trust.

As a result, vaccine immunity for diseases has waned, with a warning of “co-occurring outbreaks” that could overrun Australia’s health system.

The final report into Australia’s large-scale Covid-19 response has been released and warns the government that it needs to “rebuild trust” with the public, with “many of the measures taken during Covid-19 unlikely to be accepted by the population again”.

While Australians were more likely to follow government directives at the beginning of the pandemic, trust increasingly “eroded” as the pandemic continued, the report said.

Co-authored by former NSW Health director general Robyn Kruk, epidemiologist Catherine Bennett and health economist Angela Jackson, the report found this was, in part, because people weren’t given reasons behind the advice underpinning restrictions.


“This fed the perception that the government did not trust the public to understand or interpret the information correctly and contributed to the decrease in trust,” it said.

Submissions made to the inquiry noted that restrictive measures became “increasingly inappropriate” and were too “heavy-handed and controlling”.

The report recommended that a future public health emergency response should consider “fairness and proportionality when implementing and enforcing restrictive measures”.

Health Minister Mark Butler said the report was “thorough and measured” and vowed to implement its recommendations.

“We have a responsibility, particularly as a government, to examine our response to the pandemic, to learn what we did well, and in particular, to learn what we could have done better, and importantly, to build, as this report describes it, a high-level playbook for the next pandemic because we know there will be the next pandemic,” he said.

Mr Butler acknowledged Australia’s pandemic plans were “grossly inadequate”, limited Australia’s effectiveness and forced leaders to “build the plane while it was flying”.

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Post by Bobby » Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:33 pm

People were forced to accept medical experiments on themselves.

Vaccines normally have a 10 year period to gain approval but in
many cases they were only tested for 6 weeks.
A new technology involving mRNA was used in many vaccines
which was not fully understood yet it went ahead anyway.
Govt bodies like ATAGI went along for the ride with dozens
of high qualified medical people including many university professors
all agreed that it was worth the risk.
There was a 100% agreement amongst them.

People in Victoria were given massive life changing fines for sitting by themselves
on a park bench in the sun
yet there was no evidence of Covid being transferred outdoors.

We had some of the longest lockdowns in the world - over 260 days of house arrest
for 5.5 million people.

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Post by Bobby » Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:59 pm

What happened to this poor 70 year old woman?

What happened to the thugs who pushed her over and sprayed pepper spray into her eyes?


Australian Police Concuss & Pepper Spray 70 Year Old Woman


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Post by Bobby » Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:03 pm

Covid lockdown police violence:

Police Brutality - Man coward slammed: Flinders st Railway Station Melbourne Victoria Australia 2021

Sep 24, 2021

This guy woke up in a pool of his own blood and urine, calling for his mum.
I hope and pray that he doesn’t have brain damage from what looks like a ‘coward dump’ by a police officer.

I also pray that this officer (and his colleagues) get through this and have a change of heart, but justice must be served.

This did not look like someone upholding and enforcing the law, but that is what it seems he is paid to do.

??WHERE IS THE CONDEMNATION FROM OUR POLITICIANS??


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Post by Bobby » Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:11 pm

More Covid violence:

Police choke woman.


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Post by Bobby » Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:24 pm

The magistrate didn't allow a jury to make a decision. WTF?


Charges dropped against cop who body slammed victim at Flinders Street.



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Post by Bobby » Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:30 pm

Dan said the cops did a good job:



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Post by mellie » Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:34 pm

social licence has been eroded by lengthy restrictions that were poorly communicated." True, but remember, these weren't just Dan's decisions, he was advised by epidemiologists and Victoria is a smaller state with higher density. I have to agree with Dan Andrews * actually his heath advisors * not his advice per say....let's remember, we didn't know what this flu could do, and had to treat it with the utmost caution until we knew what we were dealing with.
It's still killing people, but they don't want people to panic or abstain from going shopping and spending, it's why they weren't keen to allert the public to the likely terrorist attack in Melbourne either because if people stopped going to the shops and congregating in public spaces this stands to hurt our economy more so.

Notice all the cafes and restaurants closing?

The latest strain is particularly nasty, my doctor's two children are very seriously ill with it, temperatures 42+.

So....

I'm masking up to go to the shops, I don't want this on top of RA + immuno-suppressive meds again.

When it comes to managing a pandemic, I am not interested in political point scoring.

They're also not talking about the fact that most people are still too crook & infectious after 5 days, because the government doesn't want people not working and or wish to pay extra sick leave.

This is the virus that keeps giving, you mark my words, everything from autoimmune disease to heart disease.
It's still early days, and we have no real understanding what the longer term outcomes will be.

We know it's hurt our global economy, we have people who are conflicted about the vaccines that were rushed and quickly approved for use, but what other choices did we have?

Had Victoria not locked down, our hospitals wouldn't have coped.

They're not coping still, because people are still being admitted to hospital with covid and even post-covid complications.

So what's the answer here Bobby?

There isn't one.

Our premieres took the advice from their epidemiologists, who are the ones who actually made the call.

To lockdown or not too.

My parents live in a retirement village so they see a lot of what's happening re- people over 55 with covid related complications.
Woman next door fit, 57, jogger, is now oxygen dependent. She was in ICU for several weeks and it's destroyed her lungs tissues.

She wasn't immunised.
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Post by mellie » Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:16 pm

I wouldn't be a very good politician.

I wouldn't be able to withhold information like a "highly likely " impending terrorist attack in a major Australian city , or tell Australians that the covid pandemic is under control and that not wearing masks in highly populated areas especially hospitals is ok now, so continue Christmas shopping as though covid no longer exists.

This virus has the potential to evolve into something else.
This is how viruses survive, they mutate.

It's not over yet, people are still dying, and in so many different ways and will be into the foreseeable future.

Our epidemiologists made the call, not our politicians who quite frankly shit themselves and really didn't know what to do when hit with a novel flu strain that is in itself, suspected to have been a bio weapon.


Understandable they just listened to the health professionals and epidemiologists.

I would too.

What else could they have done differently without the gift of hindsight Bobby?
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