Burning The Book

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Re: Burning The Book

Post by IQSRLOW » Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:36 pm

Explain what you mean by that

I thought it was obvious
Is it free speech that he is censoring, or foul language and insulting behaviour?
and also why you did not address it as such at the time.
I did, you were too intent on building a strawman to notice
There is no difference if the other interlocutor also engages and begins with foul language and insulting behaviour in the course of a discussion yet the censorship is only applied to one side.

Sappho

Re: Burning The Book

Post by Sappho » Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:52 pm

IQSRLOW wrote:
Explain what you mean by that

I thought it was obvious
Is it free speech that he is censoring, or foul language and insulting behaviour?
and also why you did not address it as such at the time.
I did, you were too intent on building a strawman to notice
There is no difference if the other interlocutor also engages and begins with foul language and insulting behaviour in the course of a discussion yet the censorship is only applied to one side.
Hmmm.... IQ what exactly is the free speech you claim is being censored?

Is it opinion only?
Is it insult?
Is it foul language?
Is it opinion with insult?
Is it opinion with insult and foul language?
Is it trolling?
Is it spamming?
Is it opinion with trolling?
Is it opinion with spamming?
Is it disclosure the of another's personal information?
Is it opinion and the disclosure of another's personal information?
Is it all of the above and then some?
Is it something completely different which are yet to discuss?

Otherwise, you are wrong about the false dichotomy jazzerino... You are infamous for your capacity to insult and engage foul language. Such behaviour is more common for you than is opinion. My question therefore was directed towards you and only you based on your debating inclinations. I suspect that it is your insults and foul language that is being censored and not your opinions where they occur without insults and foul language. Of course, I could be wrong and am engaging you in debate to judge this assessment of mine. But you are doing nothing as yet to disprove my judgement and everything you can to avoid the matter.

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Re: Burning The Book

Post by IQSRLOW » Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:57 pm

Is it opinion only?
Is it insult?
Is it foul language?
Is it opinion with insult?
Is it opinion with insult and foul language?
Is it trolling?
Is it spamming?
Is it opinion with trolling?
Is it opinion with spamming?
All of the above, but not all in the same post/s
Otherwise, you are wrong about the false dichotomy jazzerino...
No, I was correct based on your first presumption
I suspect that it is your insults and foul language that is being censored and not your opinions where they occur without insults and foul language. Of course, I could be wrong
You are

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Re: Burning The Book

Post by Sappho » Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:02 pm

IQSRLOW wrote:
Is it opinion only?
Is it insult?
Is it foul language?
Is it opinion with insult?
Is it opinion with insult and foul language?
Is it trolling?
Is it spamming?
Is it opinion with trolling?
Is it opinion with spamming?
All of the above, but not all in the same post/s
How is the denying of foul language and/or insult an equal denial of free speech?

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Re: Burning The Book

Post by IQSRLOW » Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:07 pm

How is the denying of foul language and/or insult an equal denial of free speech?
When one encompasses the other yet does not exist or interlope

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Re: Burning The Book

Post by freediver » Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:27 pm

IQSRLOW wrote:
Are you arguing that because people are able to get in and publish whatever, I should be forced to leave it up permanently?
No, I am arguing that people publish whatever and you selectively delete and ban that which you don't agree with.
IQ, a person's right to express thoughts is not denied because one forum amongst many denies a certain number of those thoughts their expression, not at least whilst there are other forums where those thoughts can be freely expressed.
That is not my point. My point is to point out the hypocrisy in Freeloader censoring that with which he disagrees while he champions free speech.
When the Nazis came for the Communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a Communist.

When they locked up the Social Democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a Social Democrat.

When they came for the Trade Unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Trade Unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
People like freeloader deserve the scrutiny of eternal vigilance
But that's not the truth is it IQ? I often agree with some of the comments that get censored. That has nothing to do with what gets deleted. They are usually completel lacking inpolitical content.

It seems to me that this has nothing to do with freedom of speech, or even biased moderating, which I think is where you are heading, but is just about you having a whinge because you got banned from a forum (not even a website). So you invoke freedom speech without knowing what it means and throw accusations hypocrisy where there is no contradiction.

Hypocrisy involves a contradiction between what a person says and what they do, not someone whinging that they got treated unfairly.

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Re: Burning The Book

Post by IQSRLOW » Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:30 pm

Hypocrisy involves a contradiction between what a person says and what they do
Precisely. It is what you are guilty of.

Ned Kelly

Re: Burning The Book

Post by Ned Kelly » Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:42 pm

Hypocrisy involves a contradiction between what a person says and what they do
Also, in your case freediver, it involves a contradiction in what you allow one day, and what you disallow the next. You are indeed the ultimate hypocrit.

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Re: Burning The Book

Post by IQSRLOW » Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:47 pm

Ned Kelly wrote:
Hypocrisy involves a contradiction between what a person says and what they do
Also, in your case freediver, it involves a contradiction in what you allow one day, and what you disallow the next. You are indeed the ultimate hypocrit.
Hell must have frozen over

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Re: Burning The Book

Post by Ferombah Hynde » Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:02 pm

I thought that inciting others to violence was a criminal offence.

Both the Moran and the Shmible explicitly instruct their followers to kill nonbelievers.

Why the fuck are these cunting books allowed to be sold? :evil:

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