War - Its only a matter of time

[J o h n S m i t h]

Either Biden should help them properly or not at all -

Why?

[Bobby]

goobers an idiot. He's already had his arse handed to him on this over at ozpol. Tomahawks are only any good if Ukraine wants to invade Russia. What are they supposed to do with them otherwise? Bomb their own bases?

Ukraine has stated many times that it is not interested in invading Russia.

Bobby should stay out of global politics.

e can't even manage this forums politics he ran away after only a few months ..

Zelenski should have given up rather than had his cities turned to rubble

Zelenski is not a coward like you

I think Ukraine needs something they can lob into Russia.

That will only invite WMD's from Russia. Ukraine cannot win a war against Russia and they certainly cannot win if they invade Russia. Zelenksi knows this, he's no fool. His only hope is that Russia still wants to control Ukraine rather than destroy it. As long as that remains the case, Putin will most likely not pull out the big guns (nuclear, chemical or biological). If that remains the case and Russia suffers too many losses to make this worthwhile, Putin may decide it's not worth it anymore and tactfully retreat (whilst declaring he won to save face).

The USA has the Tomahawk cruise missile.
The French have the MdCN and SCALP cruise missile.
The Germans have the Taurus KEPD 350 cruise missile.

All of them are game changers and could have wiped
out the Russian attacks in 2 hours.
All 3 countries could have set them up inside Ukraine and trained the Ukrainians to use them.
They didn't - they allowed the Russians to butcher the people of Ukraine
and turn their cities into rubble.

They are all bastards who sit back and watch the carnage and do nothing.

[J o h n S m i t h]

goobers an idiot. He's already had his arse handed to him on this over at ozpol. Tomahawks are only any good if Ukraine wants to invade Russia. What are they supposed to do with them otherwise? Bomb their own bases?

Ukraine has stated many times that it is not interested in invading Russia.

Bobby should stay out of global politics.

e can't even manage this forums politics he ran away after only a few months ..

Zelenski should have given up rather than had his cities turned to rubble

Zelenski is not a coward like you

I think Ukraine needs something they can lob into Russia.

That will only invite WMD's from Russia. Ukraine cannot win a war against Russia and they certainly cannot win if they invade Russia. Zelenksi knows this, he's no fool. His only hope is that Russia still wants to control Ukraine rather than destroy it. As long as that remains the case, Putin will most likely not pull out the big guns (nuclear, chemical or biological). If that remains the case and Russia suffers too many losses to make this worthwhile, Putin may decide it's not worth it anymore and tactfully retreat (whilst declaring he won to save face).

The USA has the Tomahawk cruise missile.
The French have the MdCN and SCALP cruise missile.
The Germans have the Taurus KEPD 350 cruise missile.

All of them are game changers and could have wiped
out the Russian attacks in 2 hours.
All 3 countries could have set them up inside Ukraine and trained the Ukrainians to use them.
They didn't - they allowed the Russians to butcher the people of Ukraine
and turn their cities into rubble.

They are all bastards who sit back and watch the carnage and do nothing.

you flapping your arms about tomahawks and having a hissy fit isn't going to change the fact that you haven't a clue what you are on about.

[Bobby]

you flapping your arms about tomahawks and having a hissy fit isn't going
to change the fact that you haven't a clue what you are on about.

I know what I'm talking about - you're an idiot.

Whats' the bet that the Yanks would withhold
vital defensive weapons from us too if we needed them?

[Jovial Monk]

Tom,ahawks are not the weapon for Ukraine.

They are wreaking havoc with shoulder mounted antitank/anti air missiles. Small, nimble, effective.

[Bobby]

Tomahawks are not the weapon for Ukraine.

They are wreaking havoc with shoulder mounted antitank/anti air missiles. Small, nimble, effective.

Tomahawks are needed to take out:
command and control facilities, airports and runways, missile defence systems etc.

Do you think the Yanks would take on the Russians without using them?
The Russians would have been deaf, dumb and blind in under 2 hours.
Look at the 1991 Gulf war if you don't believe me.
We're talking about 31 year old technology being denied to the Ukrainians.

[J o h n S m i t h]

Tomahawks are needed to take out:
command and control facilities, airports and runways, missile defence systems etc.

are you still calling for Ukraine to invade Russia?


fucken hell, calling you a moron is an insult to moron everywhere

[Bobby]

Tomahawks are needed to take out:
command and control facilities, airports and runways, missile defence systems etc.

are you still calling for Ukraine to invade Russia?


fucken hell, calling you a moron is an insult to moron everywhere

Don't call me a moron you fucking moron.

If the command and control facilities, military airports and runways, missile defence systems etc
are in Russia then yes - they should be hit by the Ukrainians but
they can't do it as they don't have the weapons.
They need cruise missiles.

[Jovial Monk]

I am typing this slowly for Booby’s benefit:

Tomahawk cruise missiles require WAY too much infrastructure—the russians would destroy them very quickly.

With a Javelin shoulder mounted AT missile, one or two Ukrainian soldiers can fire a missile at a tank, ditch the launcher and skedaddle before return fire hits the spot they fired the missile from. How the FUCK can you do that with all the infrastructure a Tomahawk missile needs?

The Ukraine defence forces use a simple drone like you could buy from Amazon to locate columns of russian vehicles than set up their attack. Simple, light, nimble sort of warfare that the Ukrainians have stopped the russians with.

[J o h n S m i t h]

Don't call me a moron you fucking moron.

then stupid making moronic comments.

You want Ukraine to attack Russia with missiles and you think Russia isn't going to escalate the issue? You really are a special sort of retard you know that.