I'm not a racist, but...

[IQSRLOW]

So you concede that Islam is on par with democracy as an ideology?

[boxy]

So you concede that Islam is on par with democracy as an ideology?

There are similarities, but no, not on par with it. They are different beasts.

[IQSRLOW]

There are similarities, but no, not on par with it. They are different beasts.

You will have to explain

[boxy]

The religion has a god as it's central axiom, while democracy has a political system. Islam is used by it's followers for many things, mainly personal, while the democratic movement has only the purpose of changing the political system of incompatible ideologies.

[IQSRLOW]

Islam is used by it's followers for many things, mainly personal,

This is where I believe you are incorrect and the middle east is my evidence

[boxy]

What? A bunch of "Islamic states", all with different interpretations of what that means? One of them even building an underground wall to protect a Jewish state in their heartland.

[IQSRLOW]

A bunch of "Islamic states", all with different interpretations of what that means?

Precisely, which is why your statement

Islam is used by it's followers for many things, mainly personal,

is incorrect

[boxy]

One does not exclude the other.

[IQSRLOW]

Exactly. The principle within Islam is also to adopt its socio-economic policies as a matter of prerequisite.
You cannot separate the religious aspects from the socio-economic aspects

[J.W. Frogen]

I think Hisri Ali clarifies this to some degree, if Islam is taken literally it is incompatible with democracy because it posits Shria law must be adopted and that Islam is the final truth on everything, allowing no pluralism, but fortunately many, if not most Muslims are ignorant of the grand exclusionary claims of their own religion and only practice the ritualistic aspects of it, these lazy Muslims igonrant of much of the Koran can make perfect democratic citizens.