Martial arts thoughts?

[Bobby]

Very funny -
and now for the maximum bullshit:

Cripes! Reminds me of Saturday nights at the disco back when I was still young & limber.

Here's some cringe-worthy boxing: United States Marine vs. Finland Reaction Commando. Note the American's pre-fight boast.

Low quality boxing - more like street fighting.

[Crackey]

Very funny -
and now for the maximum bullshit:

Cripes! Reminds me of Saturday nights at the disco back when I was still young & limber.

Here's some cringe-worthy boxing: United States Marine vs. Finland Reaction Commando. Note the American's pre-fight boast.

Low quality boxing - more like street fighting.

Yes. These two are more interesting:

United States Special Ops vs. Russian Spetsnaz


James Thompson vs. Alexander Emelianenko

[Valkie]

The only "martial arts" experience I have was during Army training, that is to say, pseudo-karate combined with a knife. I think martial arts has been over-glorified into utter silliness by Hollywood such as:

I think, in terms of wining, Army training would have to be #1

It's mostly by use of a weapon. It's normally elite fighting units like SAS or Selous Scouts who knew how to use their hands.

Very few people woukd know how to use a knife properly in a fight.
Most would attempt to stab someone and generally only once.
Highly unlikely that it woukd be terminal or even slow them down.

Knives are cutting implements ( unless you use specific stabbing knives, a whole other game)

As a cutting implement they are better used to slash and when claret starts to flow, the aggressor generally loses interest.
Cut to the arm, wrist or hand will put an end to just about any fight with no DEATH.

If someone is serious about killing someone, the inexperienced generally attack with repetitive fast and poorly controlled stabbing attacks at the upper torso or neck.
The only real defence against this kind of attack is to run or break their leg before they get near you.

Experience fighters will feint to the face and then slit the throat or femoral artery.

Knives are great
Combat fighting with rubber knives is my favorite training exercise.

[sprintcyclist]

Valkie - TMI

[Crackey]

The only "martial arts" experience I have was during Army training, that is to say, pseudo-karate combined with a knife. I think martial arts has been over-glorified into utter silliness by Hollywood such as:

I think, in terms of wining, Army training would have to be #1

It's mostly by use of a weapon. It's normally elite fighting units like SAS or Selous Scouts who knew how to use their hands.

Very few people woukd know how to use a knife properly in a fight.
Most would attempt to stab someone and generally only once.
Highly unlikely that it woukd be terminal or even slow them down.

Knives are cutting implements ( unless you use specific stabbing knives, a whole other game)

As a cutting implement they are better used to slash and when claret starts to flow, the aggressor generally loses interest.
Cut to the arm, wrist or hand will put an end to just about any fight with no DEATH.

If someone is serious about killing someone, the inexperienced generally attack with repetitive fast and poorly controlled stabbing attacks at the upper torso or neck.
The only real defence against this kind of attack is to run or break their leg before they get near you.

Experience fighters will feint to the face and then slit the throat or femoral artery.

Knives are great
Combat fighting with rubber knives is my favorite training exercise.

Purely academic.

[Bobby]

Maximum martial art bullshit:

[Valkie]

The only "martial arts" experience I have was during Army training, that is to say, pseudo-karate combined with a knife. I think martial arts has been over-glorified into utter silliness by Hollywood such as:

I think, in terms of wining, Army training would have to be #1

It's mostly by use of a weapon. It's normally elite fighting units like SAS or Selous Scouts who knew how to use their hands.

Very few people woukd know how to use a knife properly in a fight.
Most would attempt to stab someone and generally only once.
Highly unlikely that it woukd be terminal or even slow them down.

Knives are cutting implements ( unless you use specific stabbing knives, a whole other game)

As a cutting implement they are better used to slash and when claret starts to flow, the aggressor generally loses interest.
Cut to the arm, wrist or hand will put an end to just about any fight with no DEATH.

If someone is serious about killing someone, the inexperienced generally attack with repetitive fast and poorly controlled stabbing attacks at the upper torso or neck.
The only real defence against this kind of attack is to run or break their leg before they get near you.

Experience fighters will feint to the face and then slit the throat or femoral artery.

Knives are great
Combat fighting with rubber knives is my favorite training exercise.

Purely academic.

Possibly, but the training was good.
The techniques valid and practice makes better.

I'd back myself against an untrained person in a real fight.
Mainly because I'd rather run than fight, you never know what will happen and I have no real interest in going to gaol.
And, because when I do have to fight, I fight as if my life depends on it, I may not win, but it will not be an easy victory.

[Valkie]

The only "martial arts" experience I have was during Army training, that is to say, pseudo-karate combined with a knife. I think martial arts has been over-glorified into utter silliness by Hollywood such as:

In this I have to agree 100%.
When you actually cop a full on hit or kick, one that has been correctly delivered, even wearing mitts and instep guards, you go down hard.
I don't care who or what you are, you go down.
You don't jump back up and fight on,
Your head is spinning, or your gut is hurting, you cannot just jump up and continue.

During training I have also seen accidental hits from a boe staff and in nearly every case, that was it, sometimes hospitalization was required.
And while I fought in "controlled fights" where several attacks resulted in immediate disqualification or even banning, I have Sen accidental injuries that were very debilitating.

I have been personally knocked out several times and done the same to my opponents.

What we see in movies is just rubbish.
Possibly a couple of indirect contacts could be taken without much damage, but a well delivers attack, impossible.

It's like when you see people flying through the air and crashing into things 20 feet away, then getting up and fighting again.
The damage from the hit required to displace a human body that distance alone would kill them.

But movies are fun, bullets make people fly backwards even though physics proves otherwise.

[Crackey]

... I'd rather run than fight ...

Reminds me of an old joke, asking your assailant if he can run quickly, and if he doesn't understand the purpose of the question then ask him "How the fuck are you going to catch me?"

[Black Orchid]

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