Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.

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Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.

Post by Bobby » Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:30 am

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-study- ... infection/

US study: Moderna vaccine far better than Pfizer at preventing Delta infection
Mayo Clinic research finds both inoculations have dropped in efficacy, but Pfizer’s decline has been much steeper; both remain highly effective against severe illness
By TOI staff Today, 9:57 pm


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The study uploaded to medRxiv ahead of peer review this week found that while both vaccines were highly effective in preventing infection in January, before the introduction of Delta — hovering at around 90 percent — by July the effectiveness of both shots had dropped.

However, one was still far more effective than the other — while Moderna was down to 76 percent, Pfizer was down to 42%. The study was conducted among over 50,000 patients.

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Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.

Post by Bobby » Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:44 am

It looks like the Pfizer vax is not good enough.
I had the AZ vax and I’m not sure about it’s efficacy against the Delta variant.

Gladys is saying that once NSW gets to 70% vaccination level she'll open it up -
as though the vax is some magic solution.
It's not.
She's wasting everyone's time.

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Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.

Post by billy the kid » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:49 am

Oh bobby....haphazzard says that its over 70% efficacy....
He'd know...wouldnt he.... :rofl :rofl :rofl
Earlier it was up in the 90s....
Oh...sorry...I forgot....
If pfizer want to make a few quid....they just tell everyone
they need a booster...but why would you need a booster if
the jab is so wonderful....
42% would not pass the 50% requirement to actually produce
the jab....
Therefore...technically...at 42% the pfizer jab is ILLEGAL.....
Its a clusterfuck....
To discover those who rule over you, first discover those who you cannot criticize...Voltaire
Its coming...the rest of the world versus islam....or is it here already...

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Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.

Post by billy the kid » Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:20 pm

Read between the lines, this is already spun. There's a world of difference between a vaccine being 42% effective right now, and likely less effective in the future because the virus is mutating vs a vaccine being 90% effective but the positive effects don't last long.
Guaranteed the CDC didn't look at the time between breakthrough infections and when the 2nd dose was received. That right there isn't science, that's spin.
One results is mass sales for Pfizer vs an order to stop Pfizer vaccinations.
It will be interesting to see if the emergency provisional approval is lifted to full approval
in the US on the 5th September, 2021 by the FDA
Who in the US will twig to the fact that a vaccine (jab) to be manufactured and given to
the plebs has to have an efficacy of 50%...
If Pfizer is giving 42% only...then the vaccine cant be called a vaccine....
Its being illegally administered as its less than 50% efficacy..
Needless to say the Australian media wont say boo...
It would be contrary to the narrative...
Perhaps I should write to George Christensen....
To discover those who rule over you, first discover those who you cannot criticize...Voltaire
Its coming...the rest of the world versus islam....or is it here already...

Aussie

Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.

Post by Aussie » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:00 pm

billy the kid wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:20 pm
Read between the lines, this is already spun. There's a world of difference between a vaccine being 42% effective right now, and likely less effective in the future because the virus is mutating vs a vaccine being 90% effective but the positive effects don't last long.
Guaranteed the CDC didn't look at the time between breakthrough infections and when the 2nd dose was received. That right there isn't science, that's spin.
One results is mass sales for Pfizer vs an order to stop Pfizer vaccinations.
It will be interesting to see if the emergency provisional approval is lifted to full approval
in the US on the 5th September, 2021 by the FDA
Who in the US will twig to the fact that a vaccine (jab) to be manufactured and given to
the plebs has to have an efficacy of 50%...
If Pfizer is giving 42% only...then the vaccine cant be called a vaccine....
Its being illegally administered as its less than 50% efficacy..
Needless to say the Australian media wont say boo...
It would be contrary to the narrative...
Perhaps I should write to George Christensen....
Yeah, that'll work wonders given he is now well and truly sidelined and sent to the point and laugh corner. Maybe he'll have more luck with his snake oil pitch in the Philippines?

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Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.

Post by Neferti » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:38 pm

Aussie wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:00 pm
billy the kid wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:20 pm
Read between the lines, this is already spun. There's a world of difference between a vaccine being 42% effective right now, and likely less effective in the future because the virus is mutating vs a vaccine being 90% effective but the positive effects don't last long.
Guaranteed the CDC didn't look at the time between breakthrough infections and when the 2nd dose was received. That right there isn't science, that's spin.
One results is mass sales for Pfizer vs an order to stop Pfizer vaccinations.
It will be interesting to see if the emergency provisional approval is lifted to full approval
in the US on the 5th September, 2021 by the FDA
Who in the US will twig to the fact that a vaccine (jab) to be manufactured and given to
the plebs has to have an efficacy of 50%...
If Pfizer is giving 42% only...then the vaccine cant be called a vaccine....
Its being illegally administered as its less than 50% efficacy..
Needless to say the Australian media wont say boo...
It would be contrary to the narrative...
Perhaps I should write to George Christensen....
Yeah, that'll work wonders given he is now well and truly sidelined and sent to the point and laugh corner. Maybe he'll have more luck with his snake oil pitch in the Philippines?
He is there with you. :rofl :rofl

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Re: Pfizer is down to 42% efficacy.

Post by Bobby » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:41 pm

Aussie wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:00 pm
billy the kid wrote:
Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:20 pm
Read between the lines, this is already spun. There's a world of difference between a vaccine being 42% effective right now, and likely less effective in the future because the virus is mutating vs a vaccine being 90% effective but the positive effects don't last long.
Guaranteed the CDC didn't look at the time between breakthrough infections and when the 2nd dose was received. That right there isn't science, that's spin.
One results is mass sales for Pfizer vs an order to stop Pfizer vaccinations.
It will be interesting to see if the emergency provisional approval is lifted to full approval
in the US on the 5th September, 2021 by the FDA
Who in the US will twig to the fact that a vaccine (jab) to be manufactured and given to
the plebs has to have an efficacy of 50%...
If Pfizer is giving 42% only...then the vaccine cant be called a vaccine....
Its being illegally administered as its less than 50% efficacy..
Needless to say the Australian media wont say boo...
It would be contrary to the narrative...
Perhaps I should write to George Christensen....
Yeah, that'll work wonders given he is now well and truly sidelined and sent to the point and laugh corner. Maybe he'll have more luck with his snake oil pitch in the Philippines?

George Christensen made many good points.
They have been covered up in the main steam media.

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