This is sheer bastardry.

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Re: This is sheer bastardry.

Post by billy the kid » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:10 pm

Texan wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:47 pm
billy the kid wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:01 am
There is one point that the media has totally overlooked in this sad case.
Both the son and the daughter in law have been fully vaccinated.
They have both test negative on three occasions.
Yet no-one in the media is asking this....
If the jabs work..why arent they allowed to visit their dying father...
even in full PPE and hazmats suits....
Doesnt this suggest that the jabs DONT WORK.....
Yet no-one in the media asks this very pertinent question...
Probably because it doesnt suit the narrative of brainwashing
the plebs...
My medical knowledge is limited, but this is what I'm getting out of the various explanations of the vaccines. The RNA vaccines use pieces of the virus code to lessen the symptoms if you get the disease, but they don't keep you from getting the disease. You may have almost no symptoms, but you can still transmit the disease while you have it. That may be why they are still trying to control vaccinated people. Correct me if I'm wrong. Part of my opinion is based on what they always seem to leave out of explanations.

My doctor said his vaccine was extra hard on him. He thinks it's because he had recently had covid and already had the antibodies when he got the vaccine. He said that he took the vaccines just so that he wouldn't be a hypocrite when suggesting that his patients take it. He suggested that as long as I have the antibodies that I don't take the vaccine.

I think if you are in a high risk category like being over 65, diabetes, morbidly obese, breathing issues, etc...... then the vaccine is the way to go. If you are young and healthy, I think the vaccine introduces more risk than the disease. I was 53 and overweight when I had covid and it was very easily dealt with. 5 days of fever and 2 weeks of a mild cough. The fever was easily broken for 12 hours with a dose of advil so I could have hidden it and functioned normally while sick(and spread it everywhere). I tried to avoid advil while I was sick so that my fever would help fight the virus. I caved 3 or 4 times and took advil to feel better for a while when my fever peaked at close to 103F.(39.5C?)
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Firstly, many thanx for your input, its much appreciated...I know youve been through a lot...
I have no medical knowledge whatsoever.
I havent had covid, nor do I know anyone who has had covid.
I havent discussed getting the jab with my doctor, nor has he even
raised the subject.
I am 73 and live on the Gold Coast (Qld) where covid has been non existent.
My difficulty is a lack of trust in what we are told by the media and the
lack of trust in government.
Discussions on covid have been quite divisive in my family.
Im not sure what I would do if I contracted covid.
I feel that everyones psychological state is going to different
based on their individual beliefs, attitudes and values...
At present I am in a "holding pattern"...
If I dont get covid, I will re-assess my position in 12 months...
If I do.... :?
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Re: This is sheer bastardry.

Post by Texan » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:14 pm

billy the kid wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:10 pm
Texan wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:47 pm
billy the kid wrote:
Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:01 am
There is one point that the media has totally overlooked in this sad case.
Both the son and the daughter in law have been fully vaccinated.
They have both test negative on three occasions.
Yet no-one in the media is asking this....
If the jabs work..why arent they allowed to visit their dying father...
even in full PPE and hazmats suits....
Doesnt this suggest that the jabs DONT WORK.....
Yet no-one in the media asks this very pertinent question...
Probably because it doesnt suit the narrative of brainwashing
the plebs...
My medical knowledge is limited, but this is what I'm getting out of the various explanations of the vaccines. The RNA vaccines use pieces of the virus code to lessen the symptoms if you get the disease, but they don't keep you from getting the disease. You may have almost no symptoms, but you can still transmit the disease while you have it. That may be why they are still trying to control vaccinated people. Correct me if I'm wrong. Part of my opinion is based on what they always seem to leave out of explanations.

My doctor said his vaccine was extra hard on him. He thinks it's because he had recently had covid and already had the antibodies when he got the vaccine. He said that he took the vaccines just so that he wouldn't be a hypocrite when suggesting that his patients take it. He suggested that as long as I have the antibodies that I don't take the vaccine.

I think if you are in a high risk category like being over 65, diabetes, morbidly obese, breathing issues, etc...... then the vaccine is the way to go. If you are young and healthy, I think the vaccine introduces more risk than the disease. I was 53 and overweight when I had covid and it was very easily dealt with. 5 days of fever and 2 weeks of a mild cough. The fever was easily broken for 12 hours with a dose of advil so I could have hidden it and functioned normally while sick(and spread it everywhere). I tried to avoid advil while I was sick so that my fever would help fight the virus. I caved 3 or 4 times and took advil to feel better for a while when my fever peaked at close to 103F.(39.5C?)
:thumb
Firstly, many thanx for your input, its much appreciated...I know youve been through a lot...
I have no medical knowledge whatsoever.
I havent had covid, nor do I know anyone who has had covid.
I havent discussed getting the jab with my doctor, nor has he even
raised the subject.
I am 73 and live on the Gold Coast (Qld) where covid has been non existent.
My difficulty is a lack of trust in what we are told by the media and the
lack of trust in government.
Discussions on covid have been quite divisive in my family.
Im not sure what I would do if I contracted covid.
I feel that everyones psychological state is going to different
based on their individual beliefs, attitudes and values...
At present I am in a "holding pattern"...
If I dont get covid, I will re-assess my position in 12 months...
If I do.... :?
At some point, Australia will have to come out of hiding. Being 73, you'll have to be careful and/or decide whether or not if you want the jab. My parents are 77 and 74 and had the Pfizer jabs. They are doing fine, but they still wear masks in public and very rarely go out in public. They have pretty much self quarantined since March 2020. When restrictions are lifted and covid comes to Australia in a bigger way, you will need to coordinate with your family as to how you want to be treated as far as exposure and you'll want to limit your exposure to the public for a while. Make preparations BEFORE covid becomes common in your area. Obviously, if they are sick they are to stay away. Until a month after I had covid, I would only visit my parents in their front yard and no physical contact. Since a month after recovery, I'll see and hug my parents all we want as long as I am not sick and haven't been around a lot of people before I see my parents. I don't want to transfer disease from others to my parents from my skin or clothes. We spend holidays together, eat meals, and play domino games often. So far, we have done well.

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Re: This is sheer bastardry.

Post by billy the kid » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:53 pm

Palaszczuk has reneged and granted an exemption in this case....
Hang on a bit...
DID the expert medical advice suddenly change....
HOW come suddenly the exemption is granted, whereas up to
today there was a refusal for seven days as it was too dangerous
to grant the exemption...
This is an absolute disgrace....
The only reason the exemption has been granted is due to the outrage
by the public and the petition which attracted tens of thousands of signatures...
If it takes public backlash to compel a government to change their minds
then how immoral is that government to completely reverse their decision
simply because of that backlash...
This country is being run by totalitarian bastards and the people are being
treated like dirt....
Palaszczuk and her Gollum like puppets are an absolute disgrace....
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Re: This is sheer bastardry.

Post by billy the kid » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:09 pm

https://9now.nine.com.au/today/coronavi ... 7483b36fc0
The Qld goon show strikes again...
"Son stuck in quarantine as mother passes away with cancer...
A man who was denied permission to enter Queensland to visit his dying mother has questioned the state's lack of compassion, revealing she passed away late last night.
Anthony McCormick raced home from Canada after learning his mother was diagnosed with cancer.
He was quickly granted a quarantine exception from NSW Health but Queensland Health denied him entry into the state at the last minute."
This seems to be the status quo in Oz at the moment...
Heartless, incompetent politicians...
There seems no end to news of this nature...
And it all seems to centre on the Qld state government...
Qld has only had 6 deaths from covid since it all began...
The latest was in March last year...
(Thats if you discount the 1 death of a PNG man in Brisbane recently)
No deaths in 16 months...
A man who travels from Canada to see his dying mother is denied
permission to see her until he serves his 14 days in quarantine...
And Australia just puts up with the tyranny...
We collectively shrug our shoulders and say...
"What can you do....??"
We have lost our way as a nation....
Only recently there was a huge public backlash against the Qld government
for a similar situation and the government reversed their policy and weakened
at the last minute...
And Palaszczuk haughtily says at a recent presso that a journo is being rude....
Sad isnt it.....
This premier is a fkn bitch.....and her Gollum like CMO is just as bad....
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Re: This is sheer bastardry.

Post by billy the kid » Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:06 pm

Delighted to see that the NRL and the Qld Premier have struck a wonderful deal
to allow footballers from Sydney (in lockdown apparently) to travel
to SEQ and live in hubs in private hotels to continue to throw a piece
of leather around for a living....
Unfortunately, if you have a dying relative in Qld, you still cant see him/her
without 14 days in quarantine....
Its too dangerous... :huh?
But if you play footy....
Thats OK....
After all...Qld needs the money.... :huh?
AND of course...once the players, coaches and their families are all settled
into their luxurious hotels, the Premier (on the advice of Gollum)
will shut the border to NSW.... :?
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Re: This is sheer bastardry.

Post by Aussie » Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:28 pm

billy the kid wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:06 pm
Delighted to see that the NRL and the Qld Premier have struck a wonderful deal
to allow footballers from Sydney (in lockdown apparently) to travel
to SEQ and live in hubs in private hotels to continue to throw a piece
of leather around for a living....
Unfortunately, if you have a dying relative in Qld, you still cant see him/her
without 14 days in quarantine....
Its too dangerous... :huh?
But if you play footy....
Thats OK....
After all...Qld needs the money.... :huh?
AND of course...once the players, coaches and their families are all settled
into their luxurious hotels, the Premier (on the advice of Gollum)
will shut the border to NSW.... :?
No Billy...when they get up here.....14 days in quarantine. Some of those Teams will be here on the Sunshine Coast...at Twin Waters Resort, hardly yer luxury joint, given it is a least 20 years old, but still okay. 14 days in quarantine there.

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Re: This is sheer bastardry.

Post by billy the kid » Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:39 pm

There are several games scheduled to be played in the very near future...
Are they all going to be played in Qld whilst the players are still in quarantine
for 14 days ???....or have those matches been postponed for 14 days....???
Correct me if Im wrong....
Addendum...
Apparently they will be in quarantine....
Dont know when the games will be played...
BUT I suppose it still remains hypocritical, bearing in mind
everyone in Sydney is in lockdown, but footballers seem to have
carte blanche to continue playing....
Im sure the rest of Sydney will be thrilled at the preferential treatment
the elites continue to receive whilst the average punter can only travel
10K in Sydney, can only go to the shop once a day, and is moved on by Police
if they squeeze more than two tomatoes... :rofl
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Re: This is sheer bastardry.

Post by Aussie » Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:46 pm

billy the kid wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:39 pm
There are several games scheduled to be played in the very near future...
Are they all going to be played in Qld whilst the players are still in quarantine
for 14 days ???....or have those matches been postponed for 14 days....???
Correct me if Im wrong....
Same point crossed my mind. Dunno.

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Re: This is sheer bastardry.

Post by billy the kid » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:20 am

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/queen ... zuk-warns-
Moving their wives, partners and kids up too....
This fkn reeks.... :WTF
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Re: This is sheer bastardry.

Post by billy the kid » Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:34 pm

Qld Health now accused of outright lying in the McCormack case
outlined in my post of the 8th July, 2021......
This is going to blow up....
Apparently you can only get an exemption to get into Qld if you are
a footballer, footballers wife/partner, or a footballers child...
Oh...and if you are an elite and have some money to spend in Qld...
Nothing changes....
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