Vaccine rollout

[billy the kid]

I missed that...

[Black Orchid]

I don't watch much of the news anymore but I did catch that last night.

[Bobby]

Forgot to add...
These jabs have to be called vaccines, whereas they are actually experimental
medical biologics....
If they were called EMB's it would leave Big Pharma open to law suits....
They get around this by calling them vaccines and add a disclaimer....
No ones got the balls to call them what they really are....
BUT I digress....

The truth is that many people will get very sick
from the vaccines and some will die.
It's a matter of statistics as to if you are
better off to take your chance of getting Covid
or the vax.

[sprintcyclist]

Almost 200,000,000 covid shots given worldwide.

Amazing, great stuff.

[billy the kid]

https://www.msn.com/en-au/health/medica ... d=msedgntp
I see...
Pfizer is stating the South African variant could reduce protection by two thirds....
Wouldnt be another "disclaimer" now would it..
Im getting a bit confused...
They quote the percentage of efficacy after one dose...then the efficacy after two doses...
Depending on when you get the second dose...the efficacy percentage is different...
NOW we are being told that the efficacy against the South African variant is reduced by 66%....
AND history tells us that a vaccine only needs to have a tested efficacy of 50% for it to be manufactured...
50%....thats a coin toss....
It works or it doesnt...
Although Pfizer is telling us that the first jab has efficacy of 62%...
BUT you need a second jab...
BUT it isnt that effective against the South African variant...
Im confused...

[Neferti]

5 questions to ask your friends who plan to get the Covid vaccine

https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/15/5-q ... d-vaccine/

[sprintcyclist]

Vaccine efficacy is a bit complex

......... The mRNA-based Pfizer1, 2 and Moderna3 vaccines were shown to have 94–95% efficacy in preventing symptomatic COVID-19, calculated as 100 × (1 minus the attack rate with vaccine divided by the attack rate with placebo).
It means that in a population such as the one enrolled in the trials, with a cumulated COVID-19 attack rate over a period of 3 months of about 1% without a vaccine, we would expect roughly 0·05% of vaccinated people would get diseased.
It does not mean that 95% of people are protected from disease with the vaccine—a general misconception of vaccine protection . ............................. a 95% vaccine efficacy means that instead of 1000 COVID-19 cases in a population of 100 000 without vaccine (from the placebo arm of the abovementioned trials, approximately 1% would be ill with COVID-19 and 99% would not) we would expect 50 cases (99·95% of the population is disease-free, at least for 3 months). ..........

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lani ... X/fulltext

[sprintcyclist]

Vaccine efficacy is a bit complex

......... The mRNA-based Pfizer1, 2 and Moderna3 vaccines were shown to have 94–95% efficacy in preventing symptomatic COVID-19, calculated as 100 × (1 minus the attack rate with vaccine divided by the attack rate with placebo).
It means that in a population such as the one enrolled in the trials, with a cumulated COVID-19 attack rate over a period of 3 months of about 1% without a vaccine, we would expect roughly 0·05% of vaccinated people would get diseased.
It does not mean that 95% of people are protected from disease with the vaccine—a general misconception of vaccine protection . ............................. a 95% vaccine efficacy means that instead of 1000 COVID-19 cases in a population of 100 000 without vaccine (from the placebo arm of the abovementioned trials, approximately 1% would be ill with COVID-19 and 99% would not) we would expect 50 cases (99·95% of the population is disease-free, at least for 3 months). ..........

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lani ... X/fulltext

this might be easier to understand

........... Statisticians set vaccine efficacy standards more than century ago as researchers vaccinated some people and gave others a placebo. Then the waiting begins: Which study participants get sick? In the Pfizer-BioNTech trials, 170 of 43,661 people tested positive for COVID-19. Of that number, only eight had received the actual vaccine.

Researchers immediately saw the percentage of unvaccinated people who became infected was much higher than that of vaccinated participants. The difference in those numbers reveals a value called efficacy. So, for example, if placebo and vaccine groups become sick at equal rates, the efficacy is zero. If no one who becomes infected has been vaccinated, the efficacy is 100 percent. ..................

https://hartfordhealthcare.org/about-us ... blicId=395

[Bobby]

5 questions to ask your friends who plan to get the Covid vaccine

https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/15/5-q ... d-vaccine/

Yes -
I’m still undecided as the 5 questions seem a bit scary but
then again – getting Covid is also scary.

5 questions to ask your friends who plan to get the Covid vaccine.

https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/15/5-q ... d-vaccine/

1. Did you know that we have NEVER successfully vaccinated against ANY coronavirus?
2. Did you know it usually takes 5-10 years to fully develop a vaccine?
3. Did you know that the Covid “vaccine” is based on new technology, which has never been approved for use on humans before?
4. Did you know that the pharmaceutical companies can’t be sued if the vaccine hurts or kills someone?
5. Did you know 99.8% of people survive Covid-19?

[Black Orchid]

I'll be doing what I've maintained all along. Watch and wait.