Scary anti-vax video

[Bobby]

How is the average punter in the street to know what to do?
One specialist says it's no good
and another says it is good.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12- ... afety.html

1. mRNA vaccine technology is not entirely new

Vaccines such as the inactivated polio vaccine, or most flu vaccines, use inactivated viruses to trigger a person's immune system to respond to that disease-causing organism. In other vaccines, such as the hepatitis B vaccine, an individual protein made by that organism is injected instead to trigger a similar response.

mRNA vaccines, however, trick the body into making the viral protein itself which, in turn, triggers an immune response.




2. mRNA vaccines do not alter your DNA

A concern that some have had about the mRNA vaccines is that they could change people's DNA. But that idea is 'completely false' and has 'no scientific basis," says Prof. Goldman.

"The (vaccine) mRNA will not enter the nucleus of the cells, where our DNA is."

Once the injected mRNA enters a human cell, it degrades quickly and only stays in the body for a couple of days. This is why people need two injections to develop the best immune response, he says.

[Bobby]

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/pf ... der-adults

Pfizer COVID vaccine trial shows alarming evidence of pathogenic priming in older adults
Some of the world's top vaccine-promoters are warning about unique and frightening dangers inherent in developing a coronavirus vaccine.

December 11, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) — In the development of vaccines against coronaviruses like SARS-COV-1 and MERS in the early 2000’s, researchers found evidence of a serious problem. Teams of U.S. and foreign scientists vaccinated animals with the four most promising vaccines. At first, the experiment seemed successful as all the animals developed a robust antibody response to coronavirus. However, when the scientists exposed the vaccinated animals to the wild virus, the results were horrifying. Vaccinated animals suffered hyper-immune responses including inflammation throughout their bodies, especially in their lungs.

This issue is well known. Early in the COVID-19 scenario, Dr. Peter Hotez, of Baylor College of Medicine, testified before Congress about the dangers of accelerating coronavirus vaccine development, saying “(The) unique safety problem of coronavirus vaccines” was discovered 50 years ago while developing the Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV) vaccine.”

He went to register that this “‘paradoxical immune enhancement phenomenon’ means vaccinated people may still develop the disease, get sicker and die.”

Researchers had seen this same “enhanced immune response” during human testing of the failed RSV vaccine tests in the 1950s. The vaccines not only failed to prevent infection; 80% of the children infected required hospitalization, and two children challenged with the RSV died (see Openshaw, 2005). In April of 2020, Hotez told CNN, “If there is immune enhancement in animals, that’s a showstopper.”

[Bobby]

Maybe we'll be OK if we get the Astrazeneca vaccine?
there is no mRNA.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... id-19-vacc...


How the Oxford-AstraZeneca Vaccine Works

By Jonathan Corum and Carl ZimmerUpdated Feb. 3, 2021

The University of Oxford partnered with the British-Swedish company AstraZeneca to develop and test a coronavirus vaccine known as ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 or AZD1222. Clinical trials found that the vaccine had an efficacy of 82.4 percent when two doses were given 12 weeks apart. Despite some uncertainty over trial results, Britain authorized the vaccine for emergency use in December, and India authorized a version of the vaccine called Covishield on Jan. 3.
A Piece of the Coronavirus

The SARS-CoV-2 virus is studded with proteins that it uses to enter human cells. These so-called spike proteins make a tempting target for potential vaccines and treatments.

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The Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is based on the virus’s genetic instructions for building the spike protein. But unlike the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, which store the instructions in single-stranded RNA, the Oxford vaccine uses double-stranded DNA.
DNA Inside an Adenovirus

The researchers added the gene for the coronavirus spike protein to another virus called an adenovirus. Adenoviruses are common viruses that typically cause colds or flu-like symptoms. The Oxford-AstraZeneca team used a modified version of a chimpanzee adenovirus, known as ChAdOx1. It can enter cells, but it can’t replicate inside them.

DNA inside

an adenovirus

AZD1222 comes out of decades of research on adenovirus-based vaccines. In July, the first one was approved for general use — a vaccine for Ebola, made by Johnson & Johnson. Advanced clinical trials are underway for other diseases, including H.I.V. and Zika.

The Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine for Covid-19 is more rugged than the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna. DNA is not as fragile as RNA, and the adenovirus’s tough protein coat helps protect the genetic material inside. As a result, the Oxford vaccine doesn’t have to stay frozen. The vaccine is expected to last for at least six months when refrigerated at 38–46°F (2–8°C).

[Nom De Plume]

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020 ... ctual.html

https://respectfulinsolence.com/2020/07 ... -covid-19/

[Bobby]

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020 ... ctual.html

https://respectfulinsolence.com/2020/07 ... -covid-19/

One expert says it's safe -
another expert says it's not safe.
How is the average punter to know what to do?

[Black Orchid]

Personal choice, Bobby. That last link is an opinion piece by some random unknown blogger.

[Bobby]

Personal choice, Bobby. That last link is an opinion piece by some random unknown blogger.

If I do get the vax I'll feel like the bravest man in Melbourne.

[Black Orchid]

Just do what you feel is right for you.

[Bobby]

Just do what you feel is right for you.

Thanks.

[Bobby]

There's too many men
Too many people
Making too many problems
And not much love to go 'round
Can't you see this is a land of confusion?