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Redneck
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by Redneck » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:11 am
cods wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:19 pm
yet so far more than one State has been recounted and so far no fraud has been found........ Trump has not produced any real evidence just hearsay.....it all smacks of desperation sadly.....its just so unimportant unless you have real proof...... I dont think he gives a razoo about future elections just this one........and its for his ego....hes now having the hide to get up the FDAs arse and tell the chief to release the vaccine or find another job.....well I hope he doesnt live to regret this one as its now been released....and is on its way to every State.. if its not really ready to be released it will entirely rest on his head..........maybe something else to charge him with after the 20th Jan...believe me I dont want to see that happen, I just wish he would go quietly and just disappear.....
Thats what amuses me the Tumpards are producing all these claims of fraud and every case is thrown out of court as nonsense.
Yes its his ego for sure,,, cant accept for once he is a loser.
What you say about threatening to sack the chief of the FDA is correct, threatening him should be a no no as he should release the vaccine if and when its declared safe by the trials not when boofhead Trump bullies him into it.
Regarding the UK I think there is some suggestion it has been released prematurely as well.
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cods
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by cods » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:05 am
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:42 pm
It's the same Pfizer vaccine they are using in the UK. Why shouldn't he tell the FDA to release it for emergency use if they are dragging the chain?
If he held it back you'd be saying he is trying to kill people. Be fair.
If you think it's not ready to be released perhaps you should lay the blame on the UK.
number one black orchid HE HAS NO MEDICAL OR SCIENTIFIC EXPERIENCE.....how about that for a reason?....
hes held back since he had the virus himself.....he has no right to dictate to the very people who he will point the finger at if it all goes wrong....
why should something the POTUS says be blamed on England???....all of a sudden the Brits cant do anything right.....I think Johnson has more control of that country then Trump has over his.....I dont think you want to accept trump has made a lot of mistakes black orchid....and you just have to look at the record of his court actions to know this isnt going the way he wants it too at huge cost to every american... a lot of his supporters including him are in DENIAL.
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cods
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by cods » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:08 am
who ever releases this vaccine it will be premature..
in normal times it would be tested for 7 years........we dont have the time....it will be a risk but then what isnt?
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:35 am
cods wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:05 am
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:42 pm
It's the same Pfizer vaccine they are using in the UK. Why shouldn't he tell the FDA to release it for emergency use if they are dragging the chain?
If he held it back you'd be saying he is trying to kill people. Be fair.
If you think it's not ready to be released perhaps you should lay the blame on the UK.
number one black orchid HE HAS NO MEDICAL OR SCIENTIFIC EXPERIENCE.....how about that for a reason?....
hes held back since he had the virus himself.....he has no right to dictate to the very people who he will point the finger at if it all goes wrong....
why should something the POTUS says be blamed on England???....all of a sudden the Brits cant do anything right.....I think Johnson has more control of that country then Trump has over his.....I dont think you want to accept trump has made a lot of mistakes black orchid....and you just have to look at the record of his court actions to know this isnt going the way he wants it too at huge cost to every american... a lot of his supporters including him are in DENIAL.
It's the same vaccine they are rolling out in the UK, Cods. What part of that aren't you getting?
What you are saying is that it's a mistake that Trump is rolling it out and I should condemn that but the very same vaccine roll-out in the UK should be applauded? Sorry I just can't follow that 'logic'.
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cods
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by cods » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:26 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:35 am
cods wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:05 am
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:42 pm
It's the same Pfizer vaccine they are using in the UK. Why shouldn't he tell the FDA to release it for emergency use if they are dragging the chain?
If he held it back you'd be saying he is trying to kill people. Be fair.
If you think it's not ready to be released perhaps you should lay the blame on the UK.
number one black orchid HE HAS NO MEDICAL OR SCIENTIFIC EXPERIENCE.....how about that for a reason?....
hes held back since he had the virus himself.....he has no right to dictate to the very people who he will point the finger at if it all goes wrong....
why should something the POTUS says be blamed on England???....all of a sudden the Brits cant do anything right.....I think Johnson has more control of that country then Trump has over his.....I dont think you want to accept trump has made a lot of mistakes black orchid....and you just have to look at the record of his court actions to know this isnt going the way he wants it too at huge cost to every american... a lot of his supporters including him are in DENIAL.
It's the same vaccine they are rolling out in the UK, Cods. What part of that aren't you getting?
What you are saying is that it's a mistake that Trump is rolling it out and I should condemn that but the very same vaccine roll-out in the UK should be applauded? Sorry I just can't follow that 'logic'.
You are so wrong bo... thats not what I am saying at all...
what I am saying IS HE HAD NO RIGHT TO THREATEN THE HEAD OF THE FDA by threatening his job....if he didnt obey the President who is on his way out of office........thats outrageous yet no comment on it from you.......how do you know the Brits didnt do more test on this vaccine bo???>....you seem hell bent on blaming everyone bar trump....that isnt logic bo its denial.....you havent accepted trump has made a huge stuff up since covids....he has been arrogant and rude insufferable at times.....and you have chosen to ignore that part... even you would have to admit he is losing a lot of popularity he once had since this started....
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cods
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by cods » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:28 pm
I hate saying this but trump has sunk to a new level....
I wont be sorry to see him gone..
he leaves monk in the shade when it comes to flouncing.
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by Black Orchid » Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:14 pm
cods wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:26 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:35 am
cods wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:05 am
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:42 pm
It's the same Pfizer vaccine they are using in the UK. Why shouldn't he tell the FDA to release it for emergency use if they are dragging the chain?
If he held it back you'd be saying he is trying to kill people. Be fair.
If you think it's not ready to be released perhaps you should lay the blame on the UK.
number one black orchid HE HAS NO MEDICAL OR SCIENTIFIC EXPERIENCE.....how about that for a reason?....
hes held back since he had the virus himself.....he has no right to dictate to the very people who he will point the finger at if it all goes wrong....
why should something the POTUS says be blamed on England???....all of a sudden the Brits cant do anything right.....I think Johnson has more control of that country then Trump has over his.....I dont think you want to accept trump has made a lot of mistakes black orchid....and you just have to look at the record of his court actions to know this isnt going the way he wants it too at huge cost to every american... a lot of his supporters including him are in DENIAL.
It's the same vaccine they are rolling out in the UK, Cods. What part of that aren't you getting?
What you are saying is that it's a mistake that Trump is rolling it out and I should condemn that but the very same vaccine roll-out in the UK should be applauded? Sorry I just can't follow that 'logic'.
You are so wrong bo... thats not what I am saying at all...
what I am saying IS HE HAD NO RIGHT TO THREATEN THE HEAD OF THE FDA by threatening his job....if he didnt obey the President who is on his way out of office........thats outrageous yet no comment on it from you.......how do you know the Brits didnt do more test on this vaccine bo???>....you seem hell bent on blaming everyone bar trump....that isnt logic bo its denial.....you havent accepted trump has made a huge stuff up since covids....he has been arrogant and rude insufferable at times.....and you have chosen to ignore that part... even you would have to admit he is losing a lot of popularity he once had since this started....
It's the same vaccine, Cods. The FDA was trying to block it. I'd threaten them myself under the same circumstances. I'm sure the UK did test the vaccine before they started jabbing people but you don't seem to think they have shared those findings with us and the USA etc?
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cods
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by cods » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:13 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:14 pm
cods wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:26 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:35 am
cods wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:05 am
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:42 pm
It's the same Pfizer vaccine they are using in the UK. Why shouldn't he tell the FDA to release it for emergency use if they are dragging the chain?
If he held it back you'd be saying he is trying to kill people. Be fair.
If you think it's not ready to be released perhaps you should lay the blame on the UK.
number one black orchid HE HAS NO MEDICAL OR SCIENTIFIC EXPERIENCE.....how about that for a reason?....
hes held back since he had the virus himself.....he has no right to dictate to the very people who he will point the finger at if it all goes wrong....
why should something the POTUS says be blamed on England???....all of a sudden the Brits cant do anything right.....I think Johnson has more control of that country then Trump has over his.....I dont think you want to accept trump has made a lot of mistakes black orchid....and you just have to look at the record of his court actions to know this isnt going the way he wants it too at huge cost to every american... a lot of his supporters including him are in DENIAL.
It's the same vaccine they are rolling out in the UK, Cods. What part of that aren't you getting?
What you are saying is that it's a mistake that Trump is rolling it out and I should condemn that but the very same vaccine roll-out in the UK should be applauded? Sorry I just can't follow that 'logic'.
You are so wrong bo... thats not what I am saying at all...
what I am saying IS HE HAD NO RIGHT TO THREATEN THE HEAD OF THE FDA by threatening his job....if he didnt obey the President who is on his way out of office........thats outrageous yet no comment on it from you.......how do you know the Brits didnt do more test on this vaccine bo???>....you seem hell bent on blaming everyone bar trump....that isnt logic bo its denial.....you havent accepted trump has made a huge stuff up since covids....he has been arrogant and rude insufferable at times.....and you have chosen to ignore that part... even you would have to admit he is losing a lot of popularity he once had since this started....
It's the same vaccine, Cods. The FDA was trying to block it. I'd threaten them myself under the same circumstances. I'm sure the UK did test the vaccine before they started jabbing people but you don't seem to think they have shared those findings with us and the USA etc?
sorry my dear I still dont understand what the hell the UK has to do with trump threatening the boss of the FDA
there is no logic in that at all....if you cant do better than that then I guess we must leave this where it is....
if the UK wanted to take that risk thats up to them......did Johnson threaten anyone over there about releasing it????..
its the same here I doubt very much if its up to the PM to say when this is released.....and I for one accept that HE IS NOT MEDICALLY EQUIPED TO MAKE THAT CALL.
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by Mortdooley » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:52 am
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Redneck
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by Redneck » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:01 am
cods wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:13 pm
sorry my dear I still dont understand what the hell the UK has to do with trump threatening the boss of the FDA
there is no logic in that at all....if you cant do better than that then I guess we must leave this where it is....
if the UK wanted to take that risk thats up to them......did Johnson threaten anyone over there about releasing it????..
its the same here I doubt very much if its up to the PM to say when this is released.....and I for one accept that HE IS NOT MEDICALLY EQUIPED TO MAKE THAT CALL.
Well said cods!
I thought the same when he made that threat......It is not on in my opinion!
But of course Trump can do no wrong in BO's eyes!
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