Why Australia is rooted.

[billy the kid]

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australi ... d=msedgntp
This is another example of the incompetence of the Victorian Government.
This Bill will be debated tomorrow.
The Bill, in a nutshell, will prohibit the naming of deceased victims of sexual assault unless
those wanting to name the victim procure a court order permitting them to do so.
Its now 2020....
Why are we debating whether a deceased persons name is made known to the public, either
by the media, or on fakebook, or twitter, or whatever......
What a backward country we are....

[Black Orchid]

Crazy stuff. Too many violent sexual offenders are protected by suppressing their names and that's something that needs changing.

"The bill also says that the court must consider any evidence of what the victim would have wanted to happen, as well as the wishes of family members. This means that the process of obtaining an order would actually be more convoluted than what survivors are currently having to go through.

This suggests the need to assume that you may be raped and killed at some point during your life and should have an Affidavit all signed and ready in order for the story to be told.

[cods]

I learned something tonight...a 16 yr old boy has been charged with murder in the ACt an 18 yr old was stabbed multiple times.and died at the scene.
near where I live and my son in law attended .. I was saddened to hear it was a 16 yr old until my son in law informed me that he will be in a juvenile court and if found guilty will serve a juvenile sentence....maybe as low as 5 yrs...when he comes out his slate is wiped clean there will be no record of him being found guilty of murder.......he can travel the world and will never have to admit he committed a crime.....this young man has a very bad record thrown out of most schools by all accounts....amongst other things..I dont say they should have the record for life...but if it was my child he was accused of killing...I would be beside myself...

[Black Orchid]

And his name will be suppressed to protect him.

[Neferti]

We need a List of sex offenders as well. Name and Shame (regardless of age). If all they get is a slap on the wrist and name suppressed how is that going to help if a known sex offender lives near you. They did the crime so they should be known and avoided, it's their problem, not ours! Until they are treated like outcasts they will continue to do what they do. Disgusting creatures.

[billy the kid]

This is one of the reasons why I "denigrate"....

[billy the kid]

I learned something tonight...a 16 yr old boy has been charged with murder in the ACt an 18 yr old was stabbed multiple times.and died at the scene.
near where I live and my son in law attended .. I was saddened to hear it was a 16 yr old until my son in law informed me that he will be in a juvenile court and if found guilty will serve a juvenile sentence....maybe as low as 5 yrs...when he comes out his slate is wiped clean there will be no record of him being found guilty of murder.......he can travel the world and will never have to admit he committed a crime.....this young man has a very bad record thrown out of most schools by all accounts....amongst other things..I dont say they should have the record for life...but if it was my child he was accused of killing...I would be beside myself...

https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/nitv-news/a ... r-offences
"The new law will mean that if a person was sentenced to serve more than six months in jail then after 10 years a court can approve to crime would be expunged from their permanent record.

The process is quicker and simpler for offences which attracted a penalty of fewer than six months imprisonment.

Victoria was the only state in Australia without spent conviction provisions.

Reason Party MP Fiona Patten said the legislation was long overdue and would allow people to “move on” - possibly from foolish decisions made in their youth."

This legislation is something that I was totally unaware of.
Note that Victoria WAS the only state in Australia without "spent conviction provisions"
There is something very wrong with humanity when a person can be convicted of murder, serve
his/her sentence, and then apply to a Court to have the conviction expunged.
If you have a conviction for murder...you are a convicted murderer...thats who you are...
You should not be able to have this conviction expunged...
Whether the offence is murder or any other offence, it should remain on your record...
This is who you are....
This totally confounds me...
The doctrine of expungement is totally at odds with the doctrine of mitigation.
If someone appears before the court and he/she has a "record as long as your arm" he/she
is dealt with in a different manner than the "clean skin" who has no record and pleads
for a "chance"...he/she would probably get it if the record is long and clean...
Under expungement doctrine...everyone can be a clean skin....
Perhaps the legislation has been drafted to favour certain people often
incarcerated....
I wonder who they could be.....

[cods]

I will go along with MINOR offenses kids doing kids stuff should not be punished forever

but murder isnt kids stuff.....you carry a weapon then use that weapon.....to take a life

there has to be consequences....

[Black Orchid]

There should be no expunging murder wraps period. Same goes for paedophiles.

[cods]

our laws seem to protect the worst of our society....one day they will wake up they got it all wrong...