1st debate Wed. 11 am AEST

[Bobby]

There you go, little 'Trump' minions... you have your orders... Stand down down and standby!

Trump did himself a disservice by attacking Biden's son.
Biden was nasty too.
The whole debate was horrible.

[Redneck]

There you go, little 'Trump' minions... you have your orders... Stand down down and standby!

Trump did himself a disservice by attacking Biden's son.
Biden was nasty too.
The whole debate was horrible.

I think Biden wasnt nasty to start with but Trump was out of control so he retaliated in kind!

It proved if nothing else that Biden is no sleepy Joe or whatever the rightard wankers on here call him, he was quite lucid in making his points .

I personally think these debates are a waste of time !

[Bobby]

There you go, little 'Trump' minions... you have your orders... Stand down down and standby!

Trump did himself a disservice by attacking Biden's son.
Biden was nasty too.
The whole debate was horrible.

I think Biden wasnt nasty to start with but Trump was out of control so he retaliated in kind!

It proved if nothing else that Biden is no sleepy Joe or whatever the rightard wankers on here call him, he was quite lucid in making his points .

I personally think these debates are a waste of time !

Yes - how could anyone make their voting decision when there
were 3 men all yelling at the same time?
You couldn't tell what they were saying sometimes.

[Redneck]

There you go, little 'Trump' minions... you have your orders... Stand down down and standby!

Trump did himself a disservice by attacking Biden's son.
Biden was nasty too.
The whole debate was horrible.

I think Biden wasnt nasty to start with but Trump was out of control so he retaliated in kind!

It proved if nothing else that Biden is no sleepy Joe or whatever the rightard wankers on here call him, he was quite lucid in making his points .

I personally think these debates are a waste of time !

Yes - how could anyone make their voting decision when there
were 3 men all yelling at the same time?
You couldn't tell what they were saying sometimes.

I am quite surprised they agreed to three debates to start with rather than suck it and see after one.

The trouble for both sides now is they cant back out of the next two or look like they are scared of the other guy!

The idea of having debates during these campaigns has always been a contentious argument and in many campaigns over the years they didnt have any especially after a previous campaign where one or the other debaters made a silly boo boo.

[Texan]

There you go, little 'Trump' minions... you have your orders... Stand down down and standby!

Trump did himself a disservice by attacking Biden's son.
Biden was nasty too.
The whole debate was horrible.

I think Biden wasnt nasty to start with but Trump was out of control so he retaliated in kind!

It proved if nothing else that Biden is no sleepy Joe or whatever the rightard wankers on here call him, he was quite lucid in making his points .

I personally think these debates are a waste of time !

I had the exact opposite impression. They were both arguing, but there was no name calling until Biden called Trump a liar. Biden told Trump to shut up multiple times. He called Trump a clown. All Biden had was to fling poo at Trump to appease his base.

[Redneck]

There you go, little 'Trump' minions... you have your orders... Stand down down and standby!

Trump did himself a disservice by attacking Biden's son.
Biden was nasty too.
The whole debate was horrible.

I think Biden wasnt nasty to start with but Trump was out of control so he retaliated in kind!

It proved if nothing else that Biden is no sleepy Joe or whatever the rightard wankers on here call him, he was quite lucid in making his points .

I personally think these debates are a waste of time !

I had the exact opposite impression. They were both arguing, but there was no name calling until Biden called Trump a liar. Biden told Trump to shut up multiple times. He called Trump a clown. All Biden had was to fling poo at Trump to appease his base.

Ha Ha Ha Ha

I must have been watching a different debate!

[Redneck]

Trump, agent of chaos, drives first debate into a ditch

Washington: As a means of helping American voters understand the policy differences between the two major party candidates, the first US presidential debate was an epic and demoralising failure.

As a representation of a democracy and global superpower in deep trouble, and possibly long-term decline, it was a vivid portrait.

Donald Trump didn't come to Cleveland, Ohio, to debate. He came as a chaos agent on a mission to taunt, interrupt, bluster and bully.

Trump was so unrelentingly aggressive that he risked turning off the voters he needs to win the election - especially moderate women in the suburbs.

For 1½ hours of barely watchable television, the President was the nation's heckler-in-chief. Trump refused to observe the debate rules, declined to condemn white supremacists and demurred when asked to urge his voters to maintain calm if an election result is not known on November 3.

Trump's strategy was clear: dominate the stage, throw Biden off his game and block his opponent from making his case to the American people.

From that vantage point, he was largely successful. His supporters will relish his displays of defiance and norm-breaking. Undecided voters looking to learn about Biden's policies will come out of the debate more confused than they went in.

But there was little to appeal to a key bloc of voters, moderate women in suburbs. They are not raging left-wingers but largely recoil at Trump's abrasive and at times crude behaviour.

Speakers at the Republican National Convention tried to broaden the party's appeal by softening Trump's image and making him seem more likeable. That looks to have been a pointless exercise, given Trump's debate performance.

He wasted an opportunity to project a sense of optimism about America's post-COVID future and emphasise his advantage on managing the economy.

While Trump is primarily responsible for driving the debate into a ditch, moderator Chris Wallace deserves some of the blame. The Fox News host is a fair-minded and tough interviewer, but he proved incapable of enforcing the rules until the second half of the debate.

He let Trump run rampant and wasn't forceful enough to stop the President from constantly interrupting Biden.

As for Biden, his performance will not go down in history as one of the greatest of all time. But he held his own - and certainly did enough to dispel any claims that he is senile or incapable or doing the job.

His best moments came when he tried to tune Trump out and speak directly to the American people.

"This isn't about his family or my family," he said, when Trump predictably attacked his son Hunter. "It's about your family."

It wasn't wise for Biden to go as far as calling Trump a "clown", given he is selling himself as a more mature and presidential alternative. But he also needed to show that he wasn't going to be pushed around.

Given Biden's strong lead in the polls, it was Trump who most needed to emerge with a thumping debate victory. He didn't achieve that. This was not a performance that will shift the dynamics of the presidential contest in his favour.

The first debate was a fundamentally unserious, unedifying display that will only reinforce the intense cynicism and dismay many Americans feel about the state of their politics.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-amer ... 560o6.html

[Black Orchid]

There you go, little 'Trump' minions... you have your orders... Stand down down and standby!

Trump did himself a disservice by attacking Biden's son.
Biden was nasty too.
The whole debate was horrible.

I think Biden wasnt nasty to start with but Trump was out of control so he retaliated in kind!

It proved if nothing else that Biden is no sleepy Joe or whatever the rightard wankers on here call him, he was quite lucid in making his points .

I personally think these debates are a waste of time !

I had the exact opposite impression. They were both arguing, but there was no name calling until Biden called Trump a liar. Biden told Trump to shut up multiple times. He called Trump a clown. All Biden had was to fling poo at Trump to appease his base.

Chris Wallace argued with Trump but didn't call Biden out for his lies. Biden held up well although he must have blinked thousands of times. Blinkety blink. He looked pasty and sick and couldn't answer the questions. He just kept sticking to his scripted responses. He also has no clear platform.

Don't know what Biden kept looking down at like he was reading. No notes allowed that I know of. He wouldn't denounce Antifa and also threw his progressive far left base and the Bernie bots under the bus. They won't like that.

Trump's responses were lucid and on point but he spent far too much time interrupting and then arguing with Wallace. He should have let Biden fall over his own tongue.

All in all very disappointing.

[Redneck]

There you go, little 'Trump' minions... you have your orders... Stand down down and standby!

Trump did himself a disservice by attacking Biden's son.
Biden was nasty too.
The whole debate was horrible.

I think Biden wasnt nasty to start with but Trump was out of control so he retaliated in kind!

It proved if nothing else that Biden is no sleepy Joe or whatever the rightard wankers on here call him, he was quite lucid in making his points .

I personally think these debates are a waste of time !

I had the exact opposite impression. They were both arguing, but there was no name calling until Biden called Trump a liar. Biden told Trump to shut up multiple times. He called Trump a clown. All Biden had was to fling poo at Trump to appease his base.

Chris Wallace argued with Trump but didn't call Biden out for his lies. Biden held up well although he must have blinked thousands of times. Blinkety blink. He looked pasty and sick and couldn't answer the questions. He just kept sticking to his scripted responses. He also has no clear platform.

Don't know what Biden kept looking down at like he was reading. No notes allowed that I know of. He wouldn't denounce Antifa and also threw his progressive far left base and the Bernie bots under the bus. They won't like that.

Trump's responses were lucid and on point but he spent far too much time interrupting and then arguing with Wallace. He should have let Biden fall over his own tongue.

All in all very disappointing.

Ah dear we must live in a different world to BO and her pro Trump obsessed rightards

Blinkety Blink FFS

Fucking morons!



Seems freedivers real forum posters dont agree with BO's Yankee Doodles!

[Black Orchid]

I haven't seen anyone here declare a winner. Can you perhaps point us to such declarations?