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Greenies exploiting Koalas

Post by Juliar » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:04 pm

The nauseating Greenies are trying to exploit the koalas to close up more land and stop any logging.

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Don't gloat about your win on koalas Premier or you may regret it
Barnaby Joyce Member for New England and former leader of the National Party September 12, 2020 — 11.10pm

"War is politics by other means," so Clausewitz says. So I have a great interest in the tacticians of that horrific field. How do they inform us of the interaction of egos?

Mostly this inquiry is better kept in one's own notebook to avoid ridicule for pseudo profundity. But, as I take a deep breath in, I'm prepared to say publicly that Sun Tzu had some fascinating insights into how to win battles and they are as relevant in politics as, I presume, they are in war. The political challenge to "koala laws" broke nearly every rule in this 5th century BC strategist's book.


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The National's attempts to roll back new koala regulations didn't follow the Sun Tzu rule book.CREDIT:NINE

Let's deal first with the spark that set off the skirmish. The regulations are a confusion of emotional irrationality. Let's deal first with the spark that set off the skirmish. Trees now included as part of threatened koala habitat mean there is a new presumption that koalas eat pine needles. The symphyomyrtus sub-species, let's just say gum trees, are a much better candidate to stand under and look up if one wants to see a koala. Additionally, there is no point looking anywhere where there is just no history of koalas or where sightings are so rare and so long ago it is more a fable than a record.

Lately the demise in koala numbers is not by reason of any action of farmers but, tragically, more by reason of incineration from bushfires, starvation post fires, chlamydia and predation by wild dogs. Farmers are not known to wilfully kill an animal their child has a toy of. Likewise, you could say all farmers are (now possibly were) fascinated and proud of the fact there were "koalas on their place!"

Not one of these new tree regulations is going to stop a fire or kill a wild dog but they will most likely change the attitude of farmers towards a national icon by reason of the threat these koala laws pose to their property rights.

If you understand the value you put on your house then you will understand the value farmers put on their land. If you take that asset off them, whether in fact or in effect, and don't pay for it, then it is little different to the state putting a new caveat over the use of your kitchen. It is in its essence a transfer of ownership and a diminution of your property rights.


Barilaro’s backflip amid koala policy dispute
In a sensational backflip, NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro has caved and will not lead his Nationals MPs to the crossbench after a standoff over koala policy.

When the state divests an individual of an asset and vests it in the state without payment then that action lives between socialism and communism. It stirs emotions way beyond the issue at hand and that is why in the city people refer to koala preservation and, in the country, they talk of property rights.

It is not that country people have any problem with the desire to protect any species but we have a big issue with the price of every problem; global warming, emission reductions, fish preservation, vegetation preservation, biodiversity and now koalas, all arriving on our credit card.

Sometimes you can only explain a frustration by posing an alternate conundrum. The one I have been using is how would Sydney feel if the environmental requirement to return Sydney Harbour to its pre-white settlement, pristine beauty was by an edict removing all yachts, and without compensation. And if this edict was given from Dubbo.


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To understand Barilaro's koala implosion you need to understand where power truly lies in regional NSW

The attack on regional property rights has been happening for years. It stirs red hot emotions searching for a political voice. And if it is not found it will create one. This issue of property rights sits in the same compendium of grievances as so many other issues that affect country people, including fishing and shooting. I hope Premier Gladys Berejiklian understands this.

Koalas are rarely seen in trees around Newtown, Lewisham or Hunters Hill. No, in these areas you are far more likely to discover a wandering voter attracted to a green bait. These regulations are not there to protect koalas. They are there to protect Green preferences. Votes are being bought with our property and only the peripheral, not the underlying, problems of koala numbers are being addressed.


Now back to Sun Tzu. Warfare should be based on deception; well the Nats, as good country people, are about as subtle as a kick in the teeth from a black stallion.

You should know your enemy and yourself; I couldn't tell what the Liberals' tactics were, but I could watch ours on the rolling news cycles. Very helpful for those trying to counter them.

Sun Tzu also had a lot to say about the virtue of winning wars without firing a shot, by bluff and intimidation. I believe Premier Berejiklian read that chapter closely. John Barilaro not so much.

I don't believe this battle is won or lost yet and only offer the advice of not letting it become a war. The winners of an electoral war will be the Shooters' Party and Labor.

Premier, if you gloat and don't fix this problem by quickly getting close again to Barilaro and dealing with these ridiculous regulations, it will become one of the reasons you may lose the next election.


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Re: Greenies exploiting Koalas

Post by Juliar » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:07 pm

Jonesy blows the koalas out of the trees.

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How much can a koala bear ?


National Party will be ‘swallowed up’ if ‘Lefties’ take charge of government
14/09/2020

VIDEO: Complete lunacy of koala legislation: https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6190536851001

Sky News host Alan Jones says Gladys Berejiklian must come to terms with the fact that without the 13 National Party seats, she would not be premier but either in opposition “or on a pension”.

It comes amid a gradual move against the National Party in recent NSW electoral results, with voters moving towards the Shooters, Fishers, and Farmers, and One Nation.

The NSW Coalition government has lost ground in the bush over numerous policy decisions adversely affecting regional voters, including the recent Koala planning bill, the Murray Darling Basin plan, and the decision to ban greyhound racing.

“If the lefties take charge in Macquarie Street, which they have, the Shooters and Fishers, and Mark Latham’s One Nation will swallow the National Party,” Mr Jones said.

“Scott Morrison will be in all sorts of trouble retaining Government if he can't improve the National Party vote. “And, under the leadership of this fellow McCormack, there is no reason for people to vote National.”

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6190536851001

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Re: Greenies exploiting Koalas

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:32 pm

I'm with the Koalas on this. There is no need for us to keep destroying their habitat just so people can subdivide their land and line their pockets.

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Re: Greenies exploiting Koalas

Post by Juliar » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:21 pm

BO, it would be FAR MORE EFECTIVE to ban the Greenies' BANNING the clearing of dangerous highly inflammable undergrowth in the forests which was the MAIN CAUSE of the koala deaths in their eucalypt forest areas.

Koalas can ONLY eat eucalypt leaves so there is ABSOLUTELY no gain to koalas in banning some gum tree or any non-eucalypt trees.

The whole koala scam is a Greeny attempt to stop any and all land clearing so the undergrowth can grow huge and burn to death the koalas in the next forest fire.

If you want to help the koalas then plant some eucalypt trees.

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Re: Greenies exploiting Koalas

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:35 pm

Koalas only eat about 40 of the 1000 Eucalyptus species we have here and, unfortunately, most of the species they eat grow in coastal regions that developers want to cash in on.

So just willy nilly planting Eucalyptus here and there is futile and in no way effective. If developments are approved large corridors of the type Koalas eat need to be established so they can safely and freely move to other feeding grounds but the developers don't like that because they lose ground/money.

The Greenies prohibiting the maintaining/burning off of undergrowth is entirely a different matter.

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Re: Greenies exploiting Koalas

Post by Juliar » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:13 pm

BO has a good point about housing displacing koalas but Mark Latham identifies the scungy hidden agenda of the horrible Greenies as simply exploiting the koalas to try to stop all tree removal and to stop all logging.

The greenies killed hundreds of koalas when they started the bushfires in the forests after they banned the clearing of dangerous undergrowth.

So undergrowth clearing in the forests must be mandatory to protect the koalas.

The housing issue probably needs a coordinated approach where state govt establishes koala sanctuaries to replace the housing estates.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-13/ ... s/11392454
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-06/ ... l/11932680
https://www.savethekoala.com/our-work/i ... opulations

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MARK LATHAM SAYS BRAVO JOHN BARILARO

"If the wombat could climb a tree, it would be protected too. There would be a wombat SEPP. It is only because the koalas are in those trees and the Government has Orwellian mapping devices and satellite images that it thinks that this is some form of environmental protection."

"To say for ideological reasons that you want to wipe out coal jobs in an entire region—75,000 of them—and turn it into a rust-bucket region is not the Australian way. "

"I have had an ongoing issue—I was reminded earlier in the week with the passing of John Fahey—with the redevelopment of the Claymore public housing estate. In 1996 Mr Fahey abolished the Better Cities funding that I had lined up to redevelop that housing estate. Those people were living in the most squalid, desperate, hopeless circumstances, and it was a great redevelopment program. We finally get Craig Knowles in the State Labor Government to start it up, but what happens in 2011? Barry O'Farrell suspends all the work—a Liberal Party cancellation a second time."

"The whole point of the modern Liberal Party is to get out there on green issues and identity politics and ignore the social justice. Again, if John Barilaro calls attention to that, I say good, I say bravo, I say good on him."

#KoalaGate2020 #realmarklatham
#nswpol #auspol


Monique Tyler - Well said Mark.
You always make sense. It's like you're up against a bunch of muppets which must be very frustrating as it is for me watching these greens and lefties ruin our country.

Hans Shultz - Mark ,you have a valid point with what coal can provide for Australia but to implement that idea, we need to also look at the what if's as well. What if's as in risk we will undertake if it went through. I am referring to long term effects. Our strategy should always be safety first as we would in OHS. In China today, including India, you virtual have to wear mask because of pollution. Can imagine Australia to be the same. It would affect our tourism industry. Just saying. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/worlds ... source.../

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Re: Greenies exploiting Koalas

Post by Black Orchid » Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:15 pm

Koala sanctuaries are a good idea. Very LARGE sanctuaries but the problem is like I mentioned above ie the areas where the few trees that Koalas live on grow are the same spaces developers want to destroy and develop.

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Re: Greenies exploiting Koalas

Post by Juliar » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:56 am

The Greenies' koala SCAM is falling out of its tree.


National Party will be ‘swallowed up’ if ‘Lefties’ take charge of government
14/09/2020

VIDEO: Alan Jones blows koala Greeny SCAM out of the trees: https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6190536851001

Sky News host Alan Jones says Gladys Berejiklian must come to terms with the fact that without the 13 National Party seats, she would not be premier but either in opposition “or on a pension”.

It comes amid a gradual move against the National Party in recent NSW electoral results, with voters moving towards the Shooters, Fishers, and Farmers, and One Nation.

The NSW Coalition government has lost ground in the bush over numerous policy decisions adversely affecting regional voters, including the recent Koala planning bill, the Murray Darling Basin plan, and the decision to ban greyhound racing.

“If the lefties take charge in Macquarie Street, which they have, the Shooters and Fishers, and Mark Latham’s One Nation will swallow the National Party,” Mr Jones said.

“Scott Morrison will be in all sorts of trouble retaining Government if he can't improve the National Party vote.

“And, under the leadership of this fellow McCormack, there is no reason for people to vote National.”

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6190536851001

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Re: Greenies exploiting Koalas

Post by Juliar » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:38 am

Well it is a start.


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8:57 AM · Sep 25, 2020

1600 koala trees planted at Arthurs Seat, Mornington Peninsula VIC this season by Mornington Peninsula Koala Conservation.
https://twitter.com/science_koala/statu ... 62/photo/1

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Re: Greenies exploiting Koalas

Post by Redneck » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:50 am

Juliar wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:56 am
The Greenies' koala SCAM is falling out of its tree.


National Party will be ‘swallowed up’ if ‘Lefties’ take charge of government
14/09/2020

VIDEO: Alan Jones blows koala Greeny SCAM out of the trees: https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6190536851001

Sky News host Alan Jones says Gladys Berejiklian must come to terms with the fact that without the 13 National Party seats, she would not be premier but either in opposition “or on a pension”.

It comes amid a gradual move against the National Party in recent NSW electoral results, with voters moving towards the Shooters, Fishers, and Farmers, and One Nation.

The NSW Coalition government has lost ground in the bush over numerous policy decisions adversely affecting regional voters, including the recent Koala planning bill, the Murray Darling Basin plan, and the decision to ban greyhound racing.

“If the lefties take charge in Macquarie Street, which they have, the Shooters and Fishers, and Mark Latham’s One Nation will swallow the National Party,” Mr Jones said.

“Scott Morrison will be in all sorts of trouble retaining Government if he can't improve the National Party vote.

“And, under the leadership of this fellow McCormack, there is no reason for people to vote National.”

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6190536851001
Do you hate us that much Juliar???

Inflicting that old poof Alan Jones on us!

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

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