Lockdowns

[billy the kid]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-08- ... dia-summed

The subject of lockdowns is controversial.
Its controversial because of propaganda.
The link is lengthy.
It talks about Sweden.
It talks about covid19 effecting the elderly.
Believe what you want to believe....

"As is evident in the bottom chart, the bulk of deaths from coronavirus in Sweden happened in the over 70 year old demographic, but particularly in the over 80 year old category. If a nation has many more elderly citizens, percentage wise than another nation, then of course its overall mortality rate will be much higher, as its overall mortality rate will be greatly skewed by its large elderly population. This is why it would be fake science to extrapolate the high mortality rate of covid19 in Lombardy, a region with a high percentage of elderly, to the entire nation of Italy. All of the Western media’s headlines about this particular set of data in Sweden in comparison to its neighboring nations was completely disingenuous and deliberately intended to mislead the American public about the “failure"of the Sweden no lockdown policy, that in reality, was among the most successful, if not the most successful, in the entire world.

[billy the kid]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/deb ... -pandemics
"When China first deployed lockdown in January to “defeat COVID-19,” The Washington Post approvingly quoted a Georgetown University professor as saying,
“The truth is those kinds of lockdowns are very rare and never effective…”
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention pandemic planning documents state non-pharmaceutical interventions such as social distancing are ineffective once a disease infects 1% of a region's population. Literature on this subject is unanimous worldwide. According to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control:
No respiratory virus ever needed a “lockdown” to dissipate. What it needs is herd immunity, preferably sooner than later, preferably developed by the young and healthy to minimize mortality.


Uummm...which "health experts" are our politicians avidly listening to.....
How long will it be before our politicians give up and secretly move to herd immunity....

[Redneck]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/deb ... -pandemics
"When China first deployed lockdown in January to “defeat COVID-19,” The Washington Post approvingly quoted a Georgetown University professor as saying,
“The truth is those kinds of lockdowns are very rare and never effective…”
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention pandemic planning documents state non-pharmaceutical interventions such as social distancing are ineffective once a disease infects 1% of a region's population. Literature on this subject is unanimous worldwide. According to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control:
No respiratory virus ever needed a “lockdown” to dissipate. What it needs is herd immunity, preferably sooner than later, preferably developed by the young and healthy to minimize mortality.


Uummm...which "health experts" are our politicians avidly listening to.....
How long will it be before our politicians give up and secretly move to herd immunity....

Opinions are like arseholes...everyone has one!

Werent lockdowns used in at least one of the worse European countries (Spain or Italy)?

[billy the kid]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/deb ... -pandemics
"When China first deployed lockdown in January to “defeat COVID-19,” The Washington Post approvingly quoted a Georgetown University professor as saying,
“The truth is those kinds of lockdowns are very rare and never effective…”
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention pandemic planning documents state non-pharmaceutical interventions such as social distancing are ineffective once a disease infects 1% of a region's population. Literature on this subject is unanimous worldwide. According to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control:
No respiratory virus ever needed a “lockdown” to dissipate. What it needs is herd immunity, preferably sooner than later, preferably developed by the young and healthy to minimize mortality.


Uummm...which "health experts" are our politicians avidly listening to.....
How long will it be before our politicians give up and secretly move to herd immunity....

Opinions are like arseholes...everyone has one!

Werent lockdowns used in at least one of the worse European countries (Spain or Italy)?

Conversely, South Korea and Taiwan did not have lockdowns...
They experienced fewer cases and deaths...
Worldwide, epidemiologists are divided on the subject.
I am not an epidemiologist....I wouldnt know...
Im simply providing my scepticism as our politicians are those who make the decisions
based on the opinions of the epidemiologists which they listen to.
Only time will tell if they got it right in Australia...
Of course, the public will be told that they got it right.....

[Redneck]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/deb ... -pandemics
"When China first deployed lockdown in January to “defeat COVID-19,” The Washington Post approvingly quoted a Georgetown University professor as saying,
“The truth is those kinds of lockdowns are very rare and never effective…”
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention pandemic planning documents state non-pharmaceutical interventions such as social distancing are ineffective once a disease infects 1% of a region's population. Literature on this subject is unanimous worldwide. According to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control:
No respiratory virus ever needed a “lockdown” to dissipate. What it needs is herd immunity, preferably sooner than later, preferably developed by the young and healthy to minimize mortality.


Uummm...which "health experts" are our politicians avidly listening to.....
How long will it be before our politicians give up and secretly move to herd immunity....

Opinions are like arseholes...everyone has one!

Werent lockdowns used in at least one of the worse European countries (Spain or Italy)?

Conversely, South Korea and Taiwan did not have lockdowns...
They experienced fewer cases and deaths...
Worldwide, epidemiologists are divided on the subject.
I am not an epidemiologist....I wouldnt know...
Im simply providing my scepticism as our politicians are those who make the decisions
based on the opinions of the epidemiologists which they listen to.
Only time will tell if they got it right in Australia...
Of course, the public will be told that they got it right.....

Look at it this way.

Some had lower numbers so didnt need to lock down perhaps.

Looking at Australian NSW and the other states apart from Victoria have managed to control it Ok todate

I dont think Victoria had any choice as it is/was getting out of control!

Sort of like the saying "which came first the chicken or the egg!" if that makes any sense at all!!

[billy the kid]

Notice the insidious manner in which Yahoo News promotes the Victorian Lockdown...
"Major statistic proves that Melbourne lockdown is working"
"Melbourne’s Lord Mayor Sally Capp said foot traffic in the CBD has plummeted by 90 per cent, showing residents are “doing the right thing”.
“Pedestrian counts are down about 90 per cent compared to this time last year. The city hasn’t been this empty for this long in living memory,” Ms Capp said.
“Since the stage four restrictions started, Melbourne’s streets have been almost deserted.
“This shows Melburnians are doing the right thing and staying home to help slow the spread of the virus.”
Well NO Sally...
Have you interviewed any citizens....
NO...
Perhaps the reason people are staying home is that they are shit scared of being fined by Herr Adolf
for breaking his draconian curfew.
Yahoo News goes out of its way to give credibility to the Andrews Gestapo style government without
even communicating with any Melbourne citizens.
Maybe the reason people are staying home is because they have no fkn job to go to....
Nothing is mentioned of any interviews with the public...
Yahoo News simply promotes the lockdown...
"However, the sooner we can flatten these infection numbers by doing the right thing,
the sooner we can help businesses open their doors again.”
WELL maybe Sally, Melbourne could open their doors again when Herr Adolf
does the right thing and RESIGNS......
The propaganda continues.....
The people of Melbourne complain...
The elites keep telling us we (the politicians and you..the public) are doing a great job and this is
for your benefit....

[Redneck]

Notice the insidious manner in which Yahoo News promotes the Victorian Lockdown...
"Major statistic proves that Melbourne lockdown is working"
"Melbourne’s Lord Mayor Sally Capp said foot traffic in the CBD has plummeted by 90 per cent, showing residents are “doing the right thing”.
“Pedestrian counts are down about 90 per cent compared to this time last year. The city hasn’t been this empty for this long in living memory,” Ms Capp said.
“Since the stage four restrictions started, Melbourne’s streets have been almost deserted.
“This shows Melburnians are doing the right thing and staying home to help slow the spread of the virus.”
Well NO Sally...
Have you interviewed any citizens....
NO...
Perhaps the reason people are staying home is that they are shit scared of being fined by Herr Adolf
for breaking his draconian curfew.
Yahoo News goes out of its way to give credibility to the Andrews Gestapo style government without
even communicating with any Melbourne citizens.
Maybe the reason people are staying home is because they have no fkn job to go to....
Nothing is mentioned of any interview with the public...
Yahoo News simply promotes the lockdown...
"However, the sooner we can flatten these infection numbers by doing the right thing,
the sooner we can help businesses open their doors again.”
WELL maybe Sally, Melbourne could open their doors again when Herr Adolf
does the right thing and RESIGNS......
The propaganda continues.....
The people of Melbourne complain...
The elites keep telling us we (the politicians and you..the public) are doing a great job and this is
for your benefit....

Maybe you should move this to the Bullshit topic as I think you are talking bullshit

Open the doors and it would be way out of control in no time at all!

[billy the kid]

Notice the insidious manner in which Yahoo News promotes the Victorian Lockdown...
"Major statistic proves that Melbourne lockdown is working"
"Melbourne’s Lord Mayor Sally Capp said foot traffic in the CBD has plummeted by 90 per cent, showing residents are “doing the right thing”.
“Pedestrian counts are down about 90 per cent compared to this time last year. The city hasn’t been this empty for this long in living memory,” Ms Capp said.
“Since the stage four restrictions started, Melbourne’s streets have been almost deserted.
“This shows Melburnians are doing the right thing and staying home to help slow the spread of the virus.”
Well NO Sally...
Have you interviewed any citizens....
NO...
Perhaps the reason people are staying home is that they are shit scared of being fined by Herr Adolf
for breaking his draconian curfew.
Yahoo News goes out of its way to give credibility to the Andrews Gestapo style government without
even communicating with any Melbourne citizens.
Maybe the reason people are staying home is because they have no fkn job to go to....
Nothing is mentioned of any interview with the public...
Yahoo News simply promotes the lockdown...
"However, the sooner we can flatten these infection numbers by doing the right thing,
the sooner we can help businesses open their doors again.”
WELL maybe Sally, Melbourne could open their doors again when Herr Adolf
does the right thing and RESIGNS......
The propaganda continues.....
The people of Melbourne complain...
The elites keep telling us we (the politicians and you..the public) are doing a great job and this is
for your benefit....

Maybe you should move this to the Bullshit topic as I think you are talking bullshit

Open the doors and it would be way out of control in no time at all!

Well..yes....anything from Yahoo News is bullshit....
After all...they are a media source.....

[Redneck]

Notice the insidious manner in which Yahoo News promotes the Victorian Lockdown...
"Major statistic proves that Melbourne lockdown is working"
"Melbourne’s Lord Mayor Sally Capp said foot traffic in the CBD has plummeted by 90 per cent, showing residents are “doing the right thing”.
“Pedestrian counts are down about 90 per cent compared to this time last year. The city hasn’t been this empty for this long in living memory,” Ms Capp said.
“Since the stage four restrictions started, Melbourne’s streets have been almost deserted.
“This shows Melburnians are doing the right thing and staying home to help slow the spread of the virus.”
Well NO Sally...
Have you interviewed any citizens....
NO...
Perhaps the reason people are staying home is that they are shit scared of being fined by Herr Adolf
for breaking his draconian curfew.
Yahoo News goes out of its way to give credibility to the Andrews Gestapo style government without
even communicating with any Melbourne citizens.
Maybe the reason people are staying home is because they have no fkn job to go to....
Nothing is mentioned of any interview with the public...
Yahoo News simply promotes the lockdown...
"However, the sooner we can flatten these infection numbers by doing the right thing,
the sooner we can help businesses open their doors again.”
WELL maybe Sally, Melbourne could open their doors again when Herr Adolf
does the right thing and RESIGNS......
The propaganda continues.....
The people of Melbourne complain...
The elites keep telling us we (the politicians and you..the public) are doing a great job and this is
for your benefit....

Maybe you should move this to the Bullshit topic as I think you are talking bullshit

Open the doors and it would be way out of control in no time at all!

Well..yes....anything from Yahoo News is bullshit....
After all...they are a media source.....

I was referring to you talking bullshit!!!

[billy the kid]

Notice the insidious manner in which Yahoo News promotes the Victorian Lockdown...
"Major statistic proves that Melbourne lockdown is working"
"Melbourne’s Lord Mayor Sally Capp said foot traffic in the CBD has plummeted by 90 per cent, showing residents are “doing the right thing”.
“Pedestrian counts are down about 90 per cent compared to this time last year. The city hasn’t been this empty for this long in living memory,” Ms Capp said.
“Since the stage four restrictions started, Melbourne’s streets have been almost deserted.
“This shows Melburnians are doing the right thing and staying home to help slow the spread of the virus.”
Well NO Sally...
Have you interviewed any citizens....
NO...
Perhaps the reason people are staying home is that they are shit scared of being fined by Herr Adolf
for breaking his draconian curfew.
Yahoo News goes out of its way to give credibility to the Andrews Gestapo style government without
even communicating with any Melbourne citizens.
Maybe the reason people are staying home is because they have no fkn job to go to....
Nothing is mentioned of any interview with the public...
Yahoo News simply promotes the lockdown...
"However, the sooner we can flatten these infection numbers by doing the right thing,
the sooner we can help businesses open their doors again.”
WELL maybe Sally, Melbourne could open their doors again when Herr Adolf
does the right thing and RESIGNS......
The propaganda continues.....
The people of Melbourne complain...
The elites keep telling us we (the politicians and you..the public) are doing a great job and this is
for your benefit....

Maybe you should move this to the Bullshit topic as I think you are talking bullshit

Open the doors and it would be way out of control in no time at all!

Well..yes....anything from Yahoo News is bullshit....
After all...they are a media source.....

I was referring to you talking bullshit!!!

Yes..Im glad you agree...Yahoo News is bullshit....
Lovely to chat with you, as always.....