BigP wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 2:02 pmYou need to get out of your grannies basement and experience the real world Julian, Tell me a little about yourself, Im not asking for your name or social security number, Just a little about what you are doing with you life and a hint at your net worth as this would give me a hint at whether im wasting my time talking to you ,Juliar wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 1:26 pmBigP gives a new argument for a Socialist claiming to be from the HATED right.
But BigP, I have had a lot of posting experience in several sites from a Socialist Hate Pit to a Socialist Snake Pit and I have been abused by experts so you can safely abuse me as much as you like as it is all like water off a duck's back to me.
Go for it and brighten the place up a bit.
Ive made no secret about mine, I own a 13 acre property within stones throw of central Auckland paid 700k for it 16 years back, worth a little more now, I presently hold the position with an engineering company of production manager, the pays ok, I also run a small business from my property, Does this sound like a socialist to you,
Put up, or shut up .
Job Maker is all the rage now
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But BigP, the Kiwi from the Land of the Talking Horse, what has all this self justification got to do with the topic ?
Now discuss the topic. Is focusing the VET the key to unlocking prosperity in Australia ?
JobMaker: sloganeering won’t fix a VET system gouged by profiteers
by Bruce Mackenzie | May 30, 2020 | Business
ScMo the man the Socialists love to HATE
Scott Morrison’s JobMaker plan unveiled to the National Press Club this week, was high on catchy slogans but won’t fix Australia’s “ideologically damaged” Vocational Education Training (VET) system, writes Mackenzie Research Institute’s Bruce MacKenzie.
The Prime Minister has announced another shakeup of the nation’s vocational education and training (VET) sector — the fourth iteration since 1990 of an “industry led system”.
In his address to the Press Club this week, the Prime Minister discussed his desire to make vocational education the “first-best option”, arguing that Australia’s confusing and inconsistent vocational education system was leading too many people to go to university.
“It is no wonder when faced with this, many potential students default to the university system, even if their career would be best enhanced through vocational education.”
“I want those trade and skills jobs to be aspired to, not looked down upon or seen as a second-best option. It is a first-best option.”
Whatever that means.
Read on here
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/jobmaker ... rofiteers/
Now discuss the topic. Is focusing the VET the key to unlocking prosperity in Australia ?
JobMaker: sloganeering won’t fix a VET system gouged by profiteers
by Bruce Mackenzie | May 30, 2020 | Business
ScMo the man the Socialists love to HATE
Scott Morrison’s JobMaker plan unveiled to the National Press Club this week, was high on catchy slogans but won’t fix Australia’s “ideologically damaged” Vocational Education Training (VET) system, writes Mackenzie Research Institute’s Bruce MacKenzie.
The Prime Minister has announced another shakeup of the nation’s vocational education and training (VET) sector — the fourth iteration since 1990 of an “industry led system”.
In his address to the Press Club this week, the Prime Minister discussed his desire to make vocational education the “first-best option”, arguing that Australia’s confusing and inconsistent vocational education system was leading too many people to go to university.
“It is no wonder when faced with this, many potential students default to the university system, even if their career would be best enhanced through vocational education.”
“I want those trade and skills jobs to be aspired to, not looked down upon or seen as a second-best option. It is a first-best option.”
Whatever that means.
Read on here
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/jobmaker ... rofiteers/
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'1000 times more kills': Ominous JobMaker warning
Anastasia Santoreneos Yahoo Finance AU 27 May 2020
SMEs fear without training, tens of thousands of businesses will bite the dust.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison unveiled the government’s latest economic recovery scheme – JobMaker – on Tuesday, but small-to-medium enterprises say the program won’t help them keep their doors open.
“We are heading for a small business disaster,” Siimon Reynolds, founder of The Fortune Institute, told Yahoo Finance.
“The government has offered them temporary money, but that will run out fast.
“In biblical terms, the government is handing out fish, instead of teaching small business owners how to [catch] fish.”
Reynolds said what small businesses desperately needed was training on how to rebuild, or the government risks tens of thousands businesses biting the dust.
“Covid-19 will kill 1000 times more Australian businesses than it will kill people,” Reynolds said.
“We need to teach business owners how to survive and rebuild, not just give them some money.
“We need more than JobKeeper. We need 'Business Keeper'. We've got to have a program that teaches Aussie small business how to recover from the virus."
Founder of Kids Cooking Academy Richard Neale told Yahoo Finance that while JobKeeper has been helpful, and JobMaker might help people upskill and retrain, it doesn’t help business owners who want to keep their doors open.
“People who don’t really understand how your business runs keep saying we need to adapt and pivot and run online cooking classes but setting that up is no easy task and it costs money,” Neale said.
“JobKeeper has been helpful but it is only a bandaid solution. It would be great if I could have someone who has extensive business experience to bounce ideas off or help me look at the bigger picture.
“JobMaker will help people to upskill and retrain but it doesn’t really help business owners who want to keep their doors open.”
Jamie Gray, founder of Aussie travel company The Perfect Wave, said SMEs needed expert business advice.
“We had to stand down 100 staff globally just for the time being to ensure the company’s long term viability,” Gray said.
“It hasn’t been easy but I have been lucky to have access to an in house business coach. Expert business advice at a time like this is crucial for SMEs but so many can’t afford it.
“Having a business coach early on for us enabled our company to have the strategy and planning in place to ride out this unprecedented economic disruption.”
JobMaker slammed as ‘spine-chilling’
SMEs aren’t the only ones unhappy with the new scheme - deputy Labor leader Richard Marles said the industrial relations reform campaign sent "a chill down the spine".
“We welcome the shelving of the Ensuring Integrity Bill. Sure, it's a good thing to get people around the table,” he said.
"But I can tell you there's a lot more to industrial relations than simply booking the room."
Marles said there was “a lot unsaid” about the reform plan, and called on the Prime Minister to be clear on what award simplification actually meant.
His comments came amid calls it could be construed as a new version of the Howard government’s WorkChoices program, which was widely unpopular.
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/omino ... 33389.html
Anastasia Santoreneos Yahoo Finance AU 27 May 2020
SMEs fear without training, tens of thousands of businesses will bite the dust.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison unveiled the government’s latest economic recovery scheme – JobMaker – on Tuesday, but small-to-medium enterprises say the program won’t help them keep their doors open.
“We are heading for a small business disaster,” Siimon Reynolds, founder of The Fortune Institute, told Yahoo Finance.
“The government has offered them temporary money, but that will run out fast.
“In biblical terms, the government is handing out fish, instead of teaching small business owners how to [catch] fish.”
Reynolds said what small businesses desperately needed was training on how to rebuild, or the government risks tens of thousands businesses biting the dust.
“Covid-19 will kill 1000 times more Australian businesses than it will kill people,” Reynolds said.
“We need to teach business owners how to survive and rebuild, not just give them some money.
“We need more than JobKeeper. We need 'Business Keeper'. We've got to have a program that teaches Aussie small business how to recover from the virus."
Founder of Kids Cooking Academy Richard Neale told Yahoo Finance that while JobKeeper has been helpful, and JobMaker might help people upskill and retrain, it doesn’t help business owners who want to keep their doors open.
“People who don’t really understand how your business runs keep saying we need to adapt and pivot and run online cooking classes but setting that up is no easy task and it costs money,” Neale said.
“JobKeeper has been helpful but it is only a bandaid solution. It would be great if I could have someone who has extensive business experience to bounce ideas off or help me look at the bigger picture.
“JobMaker will help people to upskill and retrain but it doesn’t really help business owners who want to keep their doors open.”
Jamie Gray, founder of Aussie travel company The Perfect Wave, said SMEs needed expert business advice.
“We had to stand down 100 staff globally just for the time being to ensure the company’s long term viability,” Gray said.
“It hasn’t been easy but I have been lucky to have access to an in house business coach. Expert business advice at a time like this is crucial for SMEs but so many can’t afford it.
“Having a business coach early on for us enabled our company to have the strategy and planning in place to ride out this unprecedented economic disruption.”
JobMaker slammed as ‘spine-chilling’
SMEs aren’t the only ones unhappy with the new scheme - deputy Labor leader Richard Marles said the industrial relations reform campaign sent "a chill down the spine".
“We welcome the shelving of the Ensuring Integrity Bill. Sure, it's a good thing to get people around the table,” he said.
"But I can tell you there's a lot more to industrial relations than simply booking the room."
Marles said there was “a lot unsaid” about the reform plan, and called on the Prime Minister to be clear on what award simplification actually meant.
His comments came amid calls it could be construed as a new version of the Howard government’s WorkChoices program, which was widely unpopular.
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/omino ... 33389.html
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Naughty Naughty! Companies claiming Job Keeper for phantom employees!!!!
Lendlease and Blue Care join throng of large corporations cheating JobKeeper
by Michael West | May 31, 2020 | Featured, Tax
Why is Lendlease claiming JobKeeper? What is Queensland’s largest private sector employer, Blue Care, doing claiming JobKeeper when its revenues from government have actually been rising? Michael West investigates the latest mega-rort by the Big End of Town.
In announcing the JobKeeper subsidy, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said, ‘The payment will be open to eligible businesses that receive a significant financial hit caused by the coronavirus. The law and rules around JobKeeper consistently state that its purpose is to appropriately support those businesses and employees affected by the significant economic impact of the coronavirus.
Any local builder or manufacturer or coffee shop or retailer will be able to tell you if their business is down. The customers stop coming.
In a retirement village, the customers are the residents. They haven’t gone anywhere during this coronavirus. They have stayed put, and they have kept paying their accommodation charges to the owner of the village. So the revenue to a retirement village owner won’t have declined much (if at all), from last year to this, even with the coronavirus. And yet Lendlease, the largest owner of retirement villages in Australia, is claiming the JobKeeper subsidy for its retirement living business.
Among other construction giants helping themselves to JobKeeper, Mirvac has even chased up contractors it had already sacked to get them on the scheme. Meriton has not denied it, though stonewalled, Stockland – to its credit – has ruled it out and Brookfield/Multiplex has gone into hiding, refusing to respond to questions.
Read on here
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/lendleas ... jobkeeper/
Lendlease and Blue Care join throng of large corporations cheating JobKeeper
by Michael West | May 31, 2020 | Featured, Tax
Why is Lendlease claiming JobKeeper? What is Queensland’s largest private sector employer, Blue Care, doing claiming JobKeeper when its revenues from government have actually been rising? Michael West investigates the latest mega-rort by the Big End of Town.
In announcing the JobKeeper subsidy, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said, ‘The payment will be open to eligible businesses that receive a significant financial hit caused by the coronavirus. The law and rules around JobKeeper consistently state that its purpose is to appropriately support those businesses and employees affected by the significant economic impact of the coronavirus.
Any local builder or manufacturer or coffee shop or retailer will be able to tell you if their business is down. The customers stop coming.
In a retirement village, the customers are the residents. They haven’t gone anywhere during this coronavirus. They have stayed put, and they have kept paying their accommodation charges to the owner of the village. So the revenue to a retirement village owner won’t have declined much (if at all), from last year to this, even with the coronavirus. And yet Lendlease, the largest owner of retirement villages in Australia, is claiming the JobKeeper subsidy for its retirement living business.
Among other construction giants helping themselves to JobKeeper, Mirvac has even chased up contractors it had already sacked to get them on the scheme. Meriton has not denied it, though stonewalled, Stockland – to its credit – has ruled it out and Brookfield/Multiplex has gone into hiding, refusing to respond to questions.
Read on here
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/lendleas ... jobkeeper/
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You've got a little stutter there mate, lolJuliar wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:20 pmBut BigP, the Kiwi from the Land of the Talking Horse, what has all this self justification got to do with the topic ?
Now discuss the topic. Is focusing the VET the key to unlocking prosperity in Australia ?
JobMaker: sloganeering won’t fix a VET system gouged by profiteers
by Bruce Mackenzie | May 30, 2020 | Business
ScMo the man the Socialists love to HATE
Scott Morrison’s JobMaker plan unveiled to the National Press Club this week, was high on catchy slogans but won’t fix Australia’s “ideologically damaged” Vocational Education Training (VET) system, writes Mackenzie Research Institute’s Bruce MacKenzie.
The Prime Minister has announced another shakeup of the nation’s vocational education and training (VET) sector — the fourth iteration since 1990 of an “industry led system”.
In his address to the Press Club this week, the Prime Minister discussed his desire to make vocational education the “first-best option”, arguing that Australia’s confusing and inconsistent vocational education system was leading too many people to go to university.
“It is no wonder when faced with this, many potential students default to the university system, even if their career would be best enhanced through vocational education.”
“I want those trade and skills jobs to be aspired to, not looked down upon or seen as a second-best option. It is a first-best option.”
Whatever that means.
Read on here
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/jobmaker ... rofiteers/
And I note that you still haven't qualified yourself as a capitalist ?
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BigP is excited cause he thinks I slipped up.
But he must have been mistaken if he looks again. NZ is a bit shook up by earth quakes.
But he must have been mistaken if he looks again. NZ is a bit shook up by earth quakes.
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In the land of the long white cloud anything is possible.
Now ScoMo is simply just pure inspiration on JobMaker.
Honestly, ScoMo could sell sand to the Arabs and snow to the Eskimos.
PM unveils new JobMaker plan: What we know
Anastasia Santoreneos Yahoo Finance AU 26 May 2020
PM unveils new JobMaker plan. Source: GettyView photos
The Prime Minister has unveiled the government’s latest bid to get Australia’s economy out of “intensive care”, and create the jobs that were lost due to the coronavirus pandemic: the JobMaker plan.
“It is true that in the short term, demand stimulus by the government can boost your economy,” Scott Morrison said on Tuesday.
“That is why we have supported this as an emergency response, but it can only be temporary - at some point you’ve got to get your economy out of [the] ICU. You’ve got to get it off the medication before it becomes too accustomed to it.”
The JobMaker plan is to enact a “new sense of common purpose” through advancing Australia’s vocation skills and industrial relations sector.
“Changing Australia’s skills and training system will be a JobMaker priority for national recovery, as we look to create jobs in a labour market undergoing major change,” the Prime Minister said.
“We need Australians better trained for the jobs businesses are looking to create.”
The JobMaker plan will see the government reform the vocational education training sector by carrying out Skills Organisation Pilots designed to help the industry have a greater say in the training system.
Morrison said three pilots have already been established in the human services, digital technology and mining sectors with more to come.
A National Skills Commission has been established to provide detailed labour market analysis, including an annual report each year setting out the skill needs of Australia, replacing the existing lists for apprenticeships and skills migration, Morrison said.
On top of that, the Prime Minister said the National Agreement for Skills and Workforce Development was “fundamentally flawed” and needed to be changed.
“By law, the Commonwealth must hand over to the states and territories $1.5 billion in untied funding every year – with no end date and no questions asked,” Morrison said.
“The Commonwealth has no line of sight on how states use this funding. Where targets do exist, they are aspirational. If not met, there are no consequences.”
As a result, Morrison stated the government would look to increase funding transparency and performance monitoring, and better coordinate the subsidies, loans and other sources of funding, based on principles of return on investment, to make the most of the support that is being provided.
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/jobma ... 48947.html
Now ScoMo is simply just pure inspiration on JobMaker.
Honestly, ScoMo could sell sand to the Arabs and snow to the Eskimos.
PM unveils new JobMaker plan: What we know
Anastasia Santoreneos Yahoo Finance AU 26 May 2020
PM unveils new JobMaker plan. Source: GettyView photos
The Prime Minister has unveiled the government’s latest bid to get Australia’s economy out of “intensive care”, and create the jobs that were lost due to the coronavirus pandemic: the JobMaker plan.
“It is true that in the short term, demand stimulus by the government can boost your economy,” Scott Morrison said on Tuesday.
“That is why we have supported this as an emergency response, but it can only be temporary - at some point you’ve got to get your economy out of [the] ICU. You’ve got to get it off the medication before it becomes too accustomed to it.”
The JobMaker plan is to enact a “new sense of common purpose” through advancing Australia’s vocation skills and industrial relations sector.
“Changing Australia’s skills and training system will be a JobMaker priority for national recovery, as we look to create jobs in a labour market undergoing major change,” the Prime Minister said.
“We need Australians better trained for the jobs businesses are looking to create.”
The JobMaker plan will see the government reform the vocational education training sector by carrying out Skills Organisation Pilots designed to help the industry have a greater say in the training system.
Morrison said three pilots have already been established in the human services, digital technology and mining sectors with more to come.
A National Skills Commission has been established to provide detailed labour market analysis, including an annual report each year setting out the skill needs of Australia, replacing the existing lists for apprenticeships and skills migration, Morrison said.
On top of that, the Prime Minister said the National Agreement for Skills and Workforce Development was “fundamentally flawed” and needed to be changed.
“By law, the Commonwealth must hand over to the states and territories $1.5 billion in untied funding every year – with no end date and no questions asked,” Morrison said.
“The Commonwealth has no line of sight on how states use this funding. Where targets do exist, they are aspirational. If not met, there are no consequences.”
As a result, Morrison stated the government would look to increase funding transparency and performance monitoring, and better coordinate the subsidies, loans and other sources of funding, based on principles of return on investment, to make the most of the support that is being provided.
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/jobma ... 48947.html
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Good on you Julie, everyone is salivating over your cut and paste , keep up the good work son 
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ScoMo rushes in where Angels fear to tread. Can the master salesman pull this industrial miracle off ?
Scott Morrison has thrown out the industrial relations rulebook, but can old enemies work together?
By Greg Jennett Posted 27 MayMay 2020, updated 26 MayMay 2020
Morrison speaks with a pained look on his face. Scott Morrison was elected the year the Coalition got thumped over the WorkChoices package.(ABC News: Ian Cutmore)
Locking people indoors together. Forcing them to deal with others they might not normally choose to — for months on end.
It's not hard to discern how the mind of Scott Morrison ticks these days: if mandated consensus roughly worked out OK for many household relations over the past three months, then why not give it a go on industrial relations, seems to be his figuring.
"I think everybody's got to put their weapons down on this," Morrison has declared, adding that Australians "will take a very dim view of anyone, or any group, or any organisation, that isn't prepared to come and sit down at this table and give it a go at the Prime Minister's … invitation".
Technically, the Prime Minister isn't ordering business groups or trade unions to agree to anything, only to see if they are in a mood to try.
Read on here
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-27/ ... b/12288894
Scott Morrison has thrown out the industrial relations rulebook, but can old enemies work together?
By Greg Jennett Posted 27 MayMay 2020, updated 26 MayMay 2020
Morrison speaks with a pained look on his face. Scott Morrison was elected the year the Coalition got thumped over the WorkChoices package.(ABC News: Ian Cutmore)
Locking people indoors together. Forcing them to deal with others they might not normally choose to — for months on end.
It's not hard to discern how the mind of Scott Morrison ticks these days: if mandated consensus roughly worked out OK for many household relations over the past three months, then why not give it a go on industrial relations, seems to be his figuring.
"I think everybody's got to put their weapons down on this," Morrison has declared, adding that Australians "will take a very dim view of anyone, or any group, or any organisation, that isn't prepared to come and sit down at this table and give it a go at the Prime Minister's … invitation".
Technically, the Prime Minister isn't ordering business groups or trade unions to agree to anything, only to see if they are in a mood to try.
Read on here
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-27/ ... b/12288894
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