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Joe acts presidential while Pissant Trump Pulls Stunts

Post by Redneck » Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:37 am

WELL DONE JOE !!


Biden's startling weapon against Trump

Finally, on Tuesday, we heard presidential remarks about the protests against police violence that are roiling the nation.

Too bad they weren't from the actual president.

Former Vice President Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, spoke from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania this morning, a city -- like many across the country -- where thousands have been taking to the streets to protest the latest death of an unarmed black man in police custody: George Floyd, who died after a Minneapolis police officer dug his knee into his neck for more than eight long minutes.

Biden's speech could not have distinguished him more from President Donald Trump. While Trump seems to think chaos benefits him and acts to drive it at any turn, Biden struck a markedly different tone, issuing a call for calm, reconciliation, and understanding. "We're a nation in pain," Biden said. "We must not let our pain destroy us."
In a pointed critique of the President, who has long refused to take responsibility for any of his actions and never accepts blame -- even when his failed response to a pandemic has left more than 100,000 Americans dead -- Biden said, "I'll do my job and take responsibility. I won't blame others. I'll never forget that the job isn't about me."

Whatever you think of Biden -- and he wasn't my pick for the Democratic nomination -- it was almost startling to hear from an empathetic, rational adult who understands he's asking to be the public's most prominent servant, not its petty disciplinarian.

It was a window into what a Biden presidency might look like: Hardly the stuff of progressive dreams, but also leaps and bounds better than the current nightmare of narcissism, division, and autocracy from a President primarily concerned about his ratings and anyone he perceives to have slighted him. Biden promises to listen, lead, and to try to do right by the whole country, not just the angry few who don red hats and shout the loudest at political rallies.

He may not be offering the kind of enormous progress voters like me crave. But he does promise to pull us back from the abyss.

He delivered his remarks from City Hall in a metropolis where, like so many others across the country, police have been escalating their response to protesters, sometimes tear gassing even those peaceably assembled, beating people with nightsticks and shields, and attacking and arresting journalists -- including the Philadelphia Inquirer's Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Kristen Graham.

These increasingly violent tactics have been sanctioned by Trump, a pathetic coward who responded to a night of protests in Washington, DC, by hiding below ground in a White House bunker, and who on Monday evening staged a photo op of his supposed bravery walking out onto the streets of the capital -- after he had police use tear gas, flash grenades and rubber bullets to clear all the peaceful, and mostly young, citizen protesters away.

Standing in the Rose Garden he gave what will go down as one of the most terrifyingly authoritarian, anti-American screeds in US history. Law enforcement, he said, would "dominate the streets." If city and state leaders didn't squash protesters, Trump said, he would send in the military to do it for them. It was the kind of rhetoric you might be familiar with if you've ever heard a tin-pot dictator trying to put down a righteous mass movement against him. Then he walked to a venerated DC church, where he stood with aids, held up a Bible and said, "We have the greatest country in the world."
Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington told CNN's Anderson Cooper that she was "outraged" at the President's exploitation of her church, St. John's Episcopal, to share "a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus."

"The President did not pray when he came to St. John's, nor as you just articulated, did he acknowledge the agony of our country right now," she told Cooper. "And in particular, that of the people of color in our nation, who wonder if anyone ever -- anyone in public power will ever acknowledge their sacred words. And who are rightfully demanding an end to 400 years of systemic racism and white supremacy in our country. And I just want the world to know, that we in the diocese of Washington, following Jesus and his way of love ... we distance ourselves from the incendiary language of this President. We follow someone who lived a life of nonviolence and sacrificial love."

"I just can't believe what my eyes have seen," she said, surely echoing the sentiments of every decent American who holds the First Amendment's protections in the high esteem they deserve.

I'm not exactly a Biden superfan -- in my ideal universe, we would have a farther-left presidential nominee who stood shoulder to shoulder with the protesters and issued a more radical clarion call for justice.
But I'm not the person Biden needs to convince. He's talking to the vast middle of American voters who may endorse the fundamental message of the demonstrations, but are dismayed by property destruction; who are more inclined to focus on burning cars and broken windows than the enormous majority of peaceful demonstrators; and who support police officers.
I think those folks too often are distracted and misguided. But still, they vote -- and they are among those who will determine this election. Democrats need a leader who both stands with protesters speaking out against racist abuse and sends more moderate voters a clear message: I will be the president of stability and decency; Trump is the candidate of chaos and hate.
Biden did just that. "I won't traffic in fear and division," he said. "I won't fan the flames of hate."

And he pointed to Trump's shameful dictator cosplay: "when peaceful protestors are dispersed by the order of the President from the doorstep of the people's house, the White House -- using tear gas and flash grenades -- in order to stage a photo op at a noble church, we can be forgiven for believing that the president is more interested in power than in principle."

Importantly, Biden also voiced his support for legislation to regulate some of the most dangerous policing tactics: outlawing police chokeholds, ending the transfer of military equipment to police, and creating a national police oversight commission.
Did Biden address the totality of the solution in his brief remarks Tuesday? Not even close. Were the content of his remarks, and the gravity with which he delivered them, far, far better than the tear gas-'em-and-beat-'em strategy endorsed by Trump? Yes.

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Redneck wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:37 am
WELL DONE JOE !!


Biden's startling weapon against Trump

Finally, on Tuesday, we heard presidential remarks about the protests against police violence that are roiling the nation.

Too bad they weren't from the actual president.

Former Vice President Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, spoke from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania this morning, a city -- like many across the country -- where thousands have been taking to the streets to protest the latest death of an unarmed black man in police custody: George Floyd, who died after a Minneapolis police officer dug his knee into his neck for more than eight long minutes.

Biden's speech could not have distinguished him more from President Donald Trump. While Trump seems to think chaos benefits him and acts to drive it at any turn, Biden struck a markedly different tone, issuing a call for calm, reconciliation, and understanding. "We're a nation in pain," Biden said. "We must not let our pain destroy us."
In a pointed critique of the President, who has long refused to take responsibility for any of his actions and never accepts blame -- even when his failed response to a pandemic has left more than 100,000 Americans dead -- Biden said, "I'll do my job and take responsibility. I won't blame others. I'll never forget that the job isn't about me."

Whatever you think of Biden -- and he wasn't my pick for the Democratic nomination -- it was almost startling to hear from an empathetic, rational adult who understands he's asking to be the public's most prominent servant, not its petty disciplinarian.

It was a window into what a Biden presidency might look like: Hardly the stuff of progressive dreams, but also leaps and bounds better than the current nightmare of narcissism, division, and autocracy from a President primarily concerned about his ratings and anyone he perceives to have slighted him. Biden promises to listen, lead, and to try to do right by the whole country, not just the angry few who don red hats and shout the loudest at political rallies.

He may not be offering the kind of enormous progress voters like me crave. But he does promise to pull us back from the abyss.

He delivered his remarks from City Hall in a metropolis where, like so many others across the country, police have been escalating their response to protesters, sometimes tear gassing even those peaceably assembled, beating people with nightsticks and shields, and attacking and arresting journalists -- including the Philadelphia Inquirer's Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Kristen Graham.

These increasingly violent tactics have been sanctioned by Trump, a pathetic coward who responded to a night of protests in Washington, DC, by hiding below ground in a White House bunker, and who on Monday evening staged a photo op of his supposed bravery walking out onto the streets of the capital -- after he had police use tear gas, flash grenades and rubber bullets to clear all the peaceful, and mostly young, citizen protesters away.

Standing in the Rose Garden he gave what will go down as one of the most terrifyingly authoritarian, anti-American screeds in US history. Law enforcement, he said, would "dominate the streets." If city and state leaders didn't squash protesters, Trump said, he would send in the military to do it for them. It was the kind of rhetoric you might be familiar with if you've ever heard a tin-pot dictator trying to put down a righteous mass movement against him. Then he walked to a venerated DC church, where he stood with aids, held up a Bible and said, "We have the greatest country in the world."
Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington told CNN's Anderson Cooper that she was "outraged" at the President's exploitation of her church, St. John's Episcopal, to share "a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus."

"The President did not pray when he came to St. John's, nor as you just articulated, did he acknowledge the agony of our country right now," she told Cooper. "And in particular, that of the people of color in our nation, who wonder if anyone ever -- anyone in public power will ever acknowledge their sacred words. And who are rightfully demanding an end to 400 years of systemic racism and white supremacy in our country. And I just want the world to know, that we in the diocese of Washington, following Jesus and his way of love ... we distance ourselves from the incendiary language of this President. We follow someone who lived a life of nonviolence and sacrificial love."

"I just can't believe what my eyes have seen," she said, surely echoing the sentiments of every decent American who holds the First Amendment's protections in the high esteem they deserve.

I'm not exactly a Biden superfan -- in my ideal universe, we would have a farther-left presidential nominee who stood shoulder to shoulder with the protesters and issued a more radical clarion call for justice.
But I'm not the person Biden needs to convince. He's talking to the vast middle of American voters who may endorse the fundamental message of the demonstrations, but are dismayed by property destruction; who are more inclined to focus on burning cars and broken windows than the enormous majority of peaceful demonstrators; and who support police officers.
I think those folks too often are distracted and misguided. But still, they vote -- and they are among those who will determine this election. Democrats need a leader who both stands with protesters speaking out against racist abuse and sends more moderate voters a clear message: I will be the president of stability and decency; Trump is the candidate of chaos and hate.
Biden did just that. "I won't traffic in fear and division," he said. "I won't fan the flames of hate."

And he pointed to Trump's shameful dictator cosplay: "when peaceful protestors are dispersed by the order of the President from the doorstep of the people's house, the White House -- using tear gas and flash grenades -- in order to stage a photo op at a noble church, we can be forgiven for believing that the president is more interested in power than in principle."

Importantly, Biden also voiced his support for legislation to regulate some of the most dangerous policing tactics: outlawing police chokeholds, ending the transfer of military equipment to police, and creating a national police oversight commission.
Did Biden address the totality of the solution in his brief remarks Tuesday? Not even close. Were the content of his remarks, and the gravity with which he delivered them, far, far better than the tear gas-'em-and-beat-'em strategy endorsed by Trump? Yes.
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Post by Black Orchid » Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:43 am

Joe doesn't even know what day it is and you have no idea what you are going on about :rofl

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Post by Black Orchid » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:44 pm

Following days of violent riots and looting in cities across the country, Washington, D.C., announced a 7 p.m. curfew on Monday night. About the same time, President Donald Trump addressed the nation from the Rose Garden. Afterward, he walked through Lafayette Park to St. John’s Episcopal Church, which rioters had set on fire the night before. Standing before the church sign, which reads “All are welcome,” President Trump, who previously said he’d be paying his respects to a very special place, held up a Bible.

The speech announcing the country would return to rule of law and protection of civil liberties, the walk through a park that the night before had been given over to rioters, and the visit to the vandalized historic church where every president has worshiped since James Madison, were reassuring to many in the country.

For the media, however, these actions were further proof that Orange Man Bad is literally the worst, restoring rule of law is criminal, and standing in front of a church holding a Bible is an assault on the American conscience. They focused on how the Park Police had cleared the area ahead of the city-wide curfew declared by D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser.

Facts were no barrier to their narrative. They spun a tale of violent, jack-booted cops running rampant through the streets over innocent docile protesters, using tear gas to clear the area. It turns out none of that was true.

Every single major media outlet falsely reported that Park Police were unprovoked when they used “tear gas” to clear the area. If any of that were true, it might mark the first time in history that cops without gas masks launched tear gas in an area that the president of the United States easily walked through minutes later.

After thousands of false tweets, print stories, and broadcast stories to the contrary, local journalist Neal Augenstein of WTOP reported that a Park Police source said “tear gas was never used — instead smoke canisters were deployed, which don’t have an uncomfortable irritant in them.” Further, the source said the crowd was dispersed because of projectiles being thrown by the “peaceful protesters” at the Park Police and because “peaceful protesters” had climbed on top of a structure in Lafayette Park that had been burned the prior night.

Sgt. Eduardo Delgado, the public information officer for the Park Police, confirmed the agency did not use tear gas. And later this afternoon, United States Park Police acting Chief Gregory T. Monahan exploded the entire false narrative:

On Monday, June 1, the USPP worked with the United States Secret Service to have temporary fencing installed inside Lafayette Park. At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.

To curtail the violence that was underway, the USPP, following established policy, issued three warnings over a loudspeaker to alert demonstrators on H Street to evacuate the area. Horse mounted patrol, Civil Disturbance Units and additional personnel were used to clear the area. As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls. No tear gas was used by USPP officers or other assisting law enforcement partners to close the area at Lafayette Park. Subsequently, the fence was installed.

Prior to getting the actual facts, nearly every major media outlet falsely reported that canisters of tear gas, not smoke canisters, were used against peaceful protesters. The false story spread internationally despite its lack of evidence. Here are just a few of the uncountable examples.

Reuters published a video it claimed showed U.S. Park Police using tear gas. The video did not show any such thing.
Debunking the rest of that BS is here ... https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/02/me ... t-rioters/

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Post by Texan » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:38 pm

Biden wants to pander to the terrorists to get them to stop. The behavior will continue as long as it's rewarded. It may stop momentarily, but it will happen again soon if the antifa terrorists are appeased. Inner city black Americans need to understand that these rioters and looters are stealing their voice. It's being diluted by their behavior. It's being diluted by "black culture" when they shun education, embrace welfare, continue to have kids out of wedlock, and they let the government take the place of black fathers. I have no problem with people of any race in my workplace, my church, or my family. My only requirement is that they share my relevant values.

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Post by Redneck » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:46 pm

Texan wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:38 pm
Biden wants to pander to the terrorists to get them to stop. The behavior will continue as long as it's rewarded. It may stop momentarily, but it will happen again soon if the antifa terrorists are appeased. Inner city black Americans need to understand that these rioters and looters are stealing their voice. It's being diluted by their behavior. It's being diluted by "black culture" when they shun education, embrace welfare, continue to have kids out of wedlock, and they let the government take the place of black fathers. I have no problem with people of any race in my workplace, my church, or my family. My only requirement is that they share my relevant values.
Yeah they are only niggers anyhow, probably not even real niggers like OBAMA, probably dont go to church or anything civilised.

Should hang the coons!

MAGA be like Mr Trump, a real church going christian man!

God Bless Him!

:twisted:

:f

TTP

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Post by Black Orchid » Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:11 pm

Texan wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:38 pm
Biden wants to pander to the terrorists to get them to stop. The behavior will continue as long as it's rewarded. It may stop momentarily, but it will happen again soon if the antifa terrorists are appeased. Inner city black Americans need to understand that these rioters and looters are stealing their voice. It's being diluted by their behavior. It's being diluted by "black culture" when they shun education, embrace welfare, continue to have kids out of wedlock, and they let the government take the place of black fathers. I have no problem with people of any race in my workplace, my church, or my family. My only requirement is that they share my relevant values.
What's Biden done for the past 40 years that he has been a politician? He helped Obama to fund terrorists and helped him send billions of dollars on pallets to Iran. Billions of dollars on pallets dumped on air fields!!

Apart from the fact he doesn't even know how to tie his own shoe laces now I'm not surprised he is supported by a few low info plebs. Intelligence can't be bought and even the Dems don't want him. He's all they've got which says it all.

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Post by LearJet » Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:39 pm

IMHO Biden is going to run for President solely because he is the ONLY democrat politician that shows any chance whatsoever in beating President Trump.

That said, again, IMHO, IF Biden does beat President Trump, whoever Biden chose as his running mate will become President.

The Congress will use the 25th Amendment to say Biden is unfit to be President, thereby making the Vice-President, President of the United States (as always was the plan). The fact of the matter is, whoever that is, SHE (because Biden promised it would be a she) SHE could have never beaten President Trump outright herself. That's why the democrats are all in on Biden, as their only chance to get their foot into the White House.

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Post by Texan » Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:43 pm

Redneck wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:46 pm
Texan wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:38 pm
Biden wants to pander to the terrorists to get them to stop. The behavior will continue as long as it's rewarded. It may stop momentarily, but it will happen again soon if the antifa terrorists are appeased. Inner city black Americans need to understand that these rioters and looters are stealing their voice. It's being diluted by their behavior. It's being diluted by "black culture" when they shun education, embrace welfare, continue to have kids out of wedlock, and they let the government take the place of black fathers. I have no problem with people of any race in my workplace, my church, or my family. My only requirement is that they share my relevant values.
Yeah they are only niggers anyhow, probably not even real niggers like OBAMA, probably dont go to church or anything civilised.

Should hang the coons!

MAGA be like Mr Trump, a real church going christian man!

God Bless Him!

:twisted:

:f

TTP
Are you calling me racist? Your attempt to put words in my mouth says so. You point out any of my posts that parrot what you just said.

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Post by Redneck » Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:50 pm

Texan wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:43 pm
Redneck wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:46 pm
Texan wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:38 pm
Biden wants to pander to the terrorists to get them to stop. The behavior will continue as long as it's rewarded. It may stop momentarily, but it will happen again soon if the antifa terrorists are appeased. Inner city black Americans need to understand that these rioters and looters are stealing their voice. It's being diluted by their behavior. It's being diluted by "black culture" when they shun education, embrace welfare, continue to have kids out of wedlock, and they let the government take the place of black fathers. I have no problem with people of any race in my workplace, my church, or my family. My only requirement is that they share my relevant values.
Yeah they are only niggers anyhow, probably not even real niggers like OBAMA, probably dont go to church or anything civilised.

Should hang the coons!

MAGA be like Mr Trump, a real church going christian man!

God Bless Him!

:twisted:

:f

TTP
Are you calling me racist? Your attempt to put words in my mouth says so. You point out any of my posts that parrot what you just said.
I was taking the piss (TTP)

Certainly sounded like you were talking down about blacks to me!

There are probably as many whites that have the traits you mention above!

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