the BIG Border Blue

[Juliar]

It's The Constitution of Australia! Free trade between states (even the Socialist State of Victoria!).


Patriotic Pauline has thrown her oar in as well and is going to the High Court.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/nationa ... nd-border/


'They just don't like each other': Inside the bitter rivalry between Annastacia Palaszczuk and Gladys Berejiklian that may be driving the ridiculous border dispute costing Australia BILLIONS
By BRITTANY CHAIN FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA PUBLISHED: 10:41 AEST, 28 May 2020 | UPDATED: 13:56 AEST, 28 May 2020


Grrr Hiss Scratch!! The fur is flying!!

Annastacia Palaszczuk and Gladys Berejiklian 'just don't like each other'
The Queensland premier denied having bad blood with any state leaders
Ms Palaszczuk has been criticised for refusing to reopen her borders

The New South Wales and Queensland premiers have a frosty relationship which may be contributing to tensions about border closures during the coronavirus crisis, insiders say.

Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk and New South Wales' Gladys Berejiklian 'just don't like each other', a former political insider has told Australian Financial Review.

While many Australians have been left bewildered by the premiers seemingly turning the road map out of the COVID-19 pandemic into a 'State of Origin-like' game of political brinkmanship, there's actually a history of bad blood that goes back at least three years.

The relationship reportedly soured after Ms Palaszczuk blew up when Ms Berejiklian tried to speak before the other premiers at her first Council of Australian Government meeting after she took over leadership from Mike Baird in 2017.

Traditionally, after the prime minister speaks, premiers are given the opportunity to speak in order of seniority - beginning with the person who has been in office the longest.

When Ms Berejiklian reportedly attempted to jump the queue, she was brutally shot down by Ms Palaszczuk who said: 'That's not how it works here.'

The rest of the Hen's War is here

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... sures.html

[cods]

how come she has allowed Rugby League to be played in the State???...

whats so special about footballers????

[Valkie]

For too many years to count

Qld and other states have sponged of NSW to prop up their economy.

Perhaps we should just build a wall and charge any Queensland citizen for entering NSW to claw back some of the billions we have given them over the centuries.

If NSW did this with all states, we could actually get the desperately needed funds to fix the roads and infrastructure.

It might be even better when one considers that the majority of our indiginious non-working brethren live in Qld and NT.

Let those states pay the billions in wasted money to keep them happy.

NSW could finally get back and prosper without the millstone of the dead beat states around our necks.

[Juliar]

Holy Moses! Now Clive is joining Patriotic Pauline in challenging Mrs PallaChook in the High Court.

S 92 is so vague that High Court cases on S 92 just disappear into the ether as the judges each make their own personal interpretation of the vague S 92 and then argue to eternity with each other.

So Pauline and Clive know the Qld election will occur long before the High Court judges ever reach a disagreement and they are stirring the political pot as they BOTH want Mrs PallaChook to be kicked off the nest.

So it is all a political stunt.


Clive Palmer launches High Court challenge to Queensland coronavirus border closure
By Tony Zhang|31 May 2020


Clive.

Mining magnate, Clive Palmer, has instructed his lawyers to commence a High Court challenge against the Queensland government’s ongoing border closure.

On Thursday, 28 May, the court heard that a similar case launched by Mr Palmer, challenging Western Australia’s border closure, would likely take at least six weeks to proceed to a hearing in mid-July.

Peter Dunning QC, representing Palmer, told the court it was hoped the cases could merge together.

Mr Palmer announced the addition of Queensland to his High Court challenge ahead of a directions hearing on Thursday afternoon, saying the border closures were unconstitutional and discriminatory.

He hopes documents and submissions will be filed by 26 June so the matter can be heard soon.

Both states have said publicly that border closures are based on health advice, and that they will likely keep the measures in place for several months.

Read on here

https://www.lawyersweekly.com.au/biglaw ... er-closure

[Black Orchid]

What dopey Palasucks is doing is a political stunt too. Not sure what she hopes to gain from imprisoning Queenslanders.

[Juliar]

It seems every man and his dog is lining up to bite Mrs PallaChook. Why are Labor "Govts" so hopeless ? And whinging BigP note this is from the Australian so access may be denied.

Six plaintiffs challenge QLD’s closed borders
AMM 03.06.20.

Why would any informed Queenslander vote for Annastacia Palaszczuk ?

Her record of maladministration, dithering and confusing decisions is mounting in spades even though she got rid of that dreadful Jackie Trad who still hangs around like a rotten smell.

The trouble is that even if the High Court challenge over the PlaceDuck’s closed borders and compensation is awarded what will she care as it will be the taxpayers’ who must pay!

The closure of Queensland’s borders would be declared unconstitutional, unreasonable and discriminatory under a High Court challenge filed on Monday by businesses and individuals who say the state has gone beyond what is necessary to control the spread of COVID-19.

https://morningmail.org/six-plaintiffs- ... ore-117186




Coronavirus Australia: See you in court, border rebels tell Annastacia Palaszczuk
CHRIS MERRITT 9:52AM JUNE 2, 2020


Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk. Picture: Tara Croser

The closure of Queensland’s borders would be declared unconstitutional, unreasonable and discriminatory under a High Court challenge filed on Monday by businesses and individuals who say the state has gone beyond what is necessary to control the spread of COVID-19.

The six plaintiffs behind the challenge say the border closure is invalid because it breaches provisions of the Constitution requiring trade, commerce and intercourse between the states to be absolutely free; and that state governments are not permitted to discriminate against other parts of the nation.

The Constitution allows states to restrict entry for public health reasons, but documents filed in the High Court on Monday say Queensland has gone beyond what is reasonably necessary.

The six plaintiffs, who include Queensland and interstate companies and individuals, say the ­severity of the border closure has imposed financial hardship on their businesses and has breached their constitutional right to travel freely throughout the nation.

Their writ of summons lists a series of alternative measures they believe could have left the state’s borders open to most people while validly imposing targeted restrictions to prevent the spread of the virus.

Instead, they say the border closure’s “criterion of operation” is the prohibition of interstate intercourse which enjoys a guarantee of freedom under section 92 of the Constitution. They say the border closure also breaches section 117 of the Constitution by discriminating between trade and commerce within Queensland and commerce between Queensland and other jurisdictions.

The alternatives listed by the six plaintiffs include allowing ­people to enter the state if they have tested negative for the virus; subjecting new arrivals to quarantine; and allowing people to enter the state from jurisdictions that have not experienced a case of the virus for 28 days.

The challenge is backed by a Brisbane travel agent, a Cairns charter boat operator, a national linen-hire service, two would-be travellers based in Sydney and Darwin and a resident of Bribie Island who says he has been unable to travel regularly to other states and return to Queensland.

The lead plaintiff is Travel ­Essence, a travel agency based at Mount Ommaney in suburban Brisbane, which says it continues to suffer financially because of the border restrictions.

This comes soon after businessman Clive Palmer unveiled High Court proceedings targeting the border closures of Queensland and Western Australia.

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk has said the state’s borders would remain closed for June and the earliest they would reopen would be mid-July. However, north Queensland tourism operators have urged the government to reopen the state to interstate travellers before the end of the peak winter season.

Cairns charter operator Mermaid 007 is backing the challenge because it says the border closure has hurt its business, known as Reefinity Adventurers, which provides charter boats and light aircraft for fishing and reef trips.

The third plaintiff is linen hire company Super Services Group, which has warehouses at North Lakes in Queensland and Granville in Sydney’s west.

It says it has been trying since March to expand its business to Melbourne, Adelaide and Darwin but those efforts have been hindered by the border closure.

The challenge is set to be accompanied by legal action aimed at forcing the state’s Chief Health Officer, Jeanette Young, to disclose the material that formed the basis for the border closure. A request for Dr Young to provide that material had not been complied with, the writ of summons said.

The Travel Essence case is being partly paid for by a GoFundMe campaign while the legal team backing the challenge, from Queensland law firm Mahoneys, will take a fee only if it wins.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/busine ... 1ca20e6eea

[Juliar]

And what about some lulu comments from the man in the street imprisoned in Qld


seadogger 03/06/2020, 6:15 am
Me thinks it maybe time for the Duck to retire for family reasons.????????

pedro 03/06/2020, 12:28 pm
Not a lot of family there !!

Pensioner Pete 03/06/2020, 7:00 am
PP hopes for complete success with these actions in the High Court of Australia, for the future of this nation relies on the compliance by politicians at all levels, of all parties and political ideals, to comply fully with the Australian Constitution.

We see so many times how the governments, federal in particular, avoid the requirements of our Constitution by way of signing agreements with the UN, commencing with the Lima Agreement signed 1975 by the Whitlam government which has progressively led to the near complete destruction of manufacturing and industry within Australia as we see it today.

Right now we witness the destruction of businesses and jobs within the States, inflicted by dictator style Premiers using their Chief Medical Officers as the tool to inflict this unnecessary destruction upon us all, whilst the politicians and public servants remain insulated from this attack upon our individual prosperity and rights.

For Queenslanders, our rage is mounting quickly, particularly so when the Blackwater incident has been revealed for the fraud it was. How convenient it is, that Puzzleduck announced on Sunday last, Queenslanders could travel throughout the state except Cape York Peninsular soon after she discovered the outcome of the autopsy of the unfortunate gentleman who died in Blackwater had no trace of the Chinese Wuhan Virus.

How dare she play politics with peoples livelihoods and lives.

luk1955 03/06/2020, 7:22 am
We will find out if the courts really acknowledge the Constitution or whether the courts consider it an outdated piece of paper. There are various laws that allow governments to quarantine the sick but there are no laws allowing quarantine of healthy people.

And being in a democratic country, why don’t the business owners just simply open up. Various courts have ruled that laws that exceed their allowed authority are unconstitutional and illegal. Why do these businesses need to kowtow to such illegitimate authorities? This house arrest has caused far more harm than the wuhan virus could ever have done.

Big Al 03/06/2020, 7:51 am
I will happily defer to your opinion if the HC declares likewise.

I think Luk’s got a good point: Since when did the law allow healthy people to be quarantined, just in case they might get infected? This seems to be an irrelevant issue given so few of those infected have needed hospitalization.

Maryanne 03/06/2020, 8:41 am
The mania to control the infection was stupid from the start. Why did they do it? Once it became obvious that, despite all the government and media hype about it being a “deadly disease”, the new strain was no problem for over 90 per cent of the population, why did they continue with their lock down? By all means quarantine the sick and the elderly for whom it was deadly, but why the rest of us? Because they could? Because they liked bossing people around? Surely it would have been preferable to let the younger cohorts get it so as to start building natural immunity in the population.

Pensioner Pete 03/06/2020, 9:08 am
Maryanne: Politicians + Senior Bureaucrats = NIL commonsense. This equation has been around since the times of Rome and if anything, has been improved upon.

Big Al 03/06/2020, 10:05 am
PP, I’ve always added: the benefit achieved by the P&B brigade is inversely proportional to the application of common sense.

Like Murphy’s Law, basically stated is: If something can go wrong it will, which has a corollary, viz. and it will go wrong with the most undesirable result.

Penguinite 03/06/2020, 9:37 am
The HCA must surely see through this thinly disguised attempt to influence the upcoming State election. Palaszczuk either wants to delay the election or convert it to a “Postal Vote” only. Either way, Labor get a chance to manipulate the result!

Pensioner Pete 03/06/2020, 9:59 am
At least two known and previously revealed Labor tactics in securing votes are:
1: Sending into Aboriginal communities, particularly those in Cape York Peninsular, Labor party ‘assistants’ to help the local indigenous people who have difficulty with reading and writing, to vote. How thoughtful, how helpful.

2: Raising the dead at election time to vote, this should be interesting should there be a postal vote, with the post office inundated with those recently resurrected to lodge their postal votes. Scenes of ‘Walking Dead’ come to mind .

Chuck into the mix, the fact, electorates, particularly in the SE corner of Queensland are demographically manipulated to favour Labor, the fact the majority of electorates reside within the SE corner of Queensland, the fact, many rural electorates are so large in area, they are impossible to adequately service by the elected member, mostly National Party, thus placing the rural and also the regional areas at a distinct disadvantage, electorally.

And finally the fact, the LNP opposition are as useless as tits on a boar pig, as per the Queensland RACQ insurance advertisement, ‘Opposition, what opposition’?

Penguinite 03/06/2020, 12:18 pm
Mr Kaiser was a Queensland Labor MP but resigned in 2001 after admitting to involvement in vote-rigging in party ballots in the 1980s. Now re-employed by Palszcuck?

ibbit 03/06/2020, 9:43 am
Palace duck is rubbish and, I suspect, Deb of the other side is not much better with her “psalm-singing”. Luckily for queenslanders there are more than a few good people on the Deb side even though they are kept hidden while the palace Duck is short of anything that is not rubbish.

Aktosplatz 03/06/2020, 3:28 pm
Also, a typical Pallychook attack on small (private enterprise) businesses which are non – union.