Oh Reddy if you think anyone believes your lies think again.
BO must be on the verge of kicking you off as an undesirable who repels any new members.
The Socialist way...
Forum rules
Don't poop in these threads. This isn't Europe, okay? There are rules here!
Don't poop in these threads. This isn't Europe, okay? There are rules here!
-
Juliar
- Posts: 1355
- Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:56 am
Re: The Socialist way...
And as expected just like after WWII the BIG ONES are starting to roll off the line to get Australia going again and win the next election.
As usual, even after they set fire to Australia and burnt it to the ground, the shamed fowl Greenies are trying to stop ANY and ALL development.
Snowy Hydro 2.0 approved
PERRY WILLIAMS 9 HOURS AGO
Snowy 2.0
The $4.6bn Snowy Hydro 2.0 expansion project has been approved by the NSW government as part of a process to boost investment as the state emerges from the COVID-19 crisis.
Up to 2000 jobs will be created after the main works component of the development won planning clearance with environmental conditions including $100m of offset requirements to protect threatened species.
The facility involves building a new 240m-long pumped hydro power station sitting 800m underground which connects to 27km of tunnels between the Talbingo and Tantangara reservoirs.
“For a small and temporary construction footprint covering just 0.1 per cent of the park, Snowy 2.0 will deliver 2,000MW of clean energy and large-scale energy storage to support many other wind and solar projects coming online,” Snowy chief executive Paul Broad said.
NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian included Snowy 2.0 as one of 24 projects which had their planning assessments accelerated to boost the state’s economy amid COVID-19 shutdowns.
The federal government must now approve the main works package before work can start in the next few months while exploratory works continue.
Snowy in April secured $3.5bn in debt from Australian and international banks to finance its 2.0 expansion scheme with the renewables operator on track to start bringing the project online by late 2024 to early 2025.
Critics including the National Parks Association of NSW have raised concerns the project will damage the environment and endanger threatened species.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/busine ... c4d443ae07
As usual, even after they set fire to Australia and burnt it to the ground, the shamed fowl Greenies are trying to stop ANY and ALL development.
Snowy Hydro 2.0 approved
PERRY WILLIAMS 9 HOURS AGO
Snowy 2.0
The $4.6bn Snowy Hydro 2.0 expansion project has been approved by the NSW government as part of a process to boost investment as the state emerges from the COVID-19 crisis.
Up to 2000 jobs will be created after the main works component of the development won planning clearance with environmental conditions including $100m of offset requirements to protect threatened species.
The facility involves building a new 240m-long pumped hydro power station sitting 800m underground which connects to 27km of tunnels between the Talbingo and Tantangara reservoirs.
“For a small and temporary construction footprint covering just 0.1 per cent of the park, Snowy 2.0 will deliver 2,000MW of clean energy and large-scale energy storage to support many other wind and solar projects coming online,” Snowy chief executive Paul Broad said.
NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian included Snowy 2.0 as one of 24 projects which had their planning assessments accelerated to boost the state’s economy amid COVID-19 shutdowns.
The federal government must now approve the main works package before work can start in the next few months while exploratory works continue.
Snowy in April secured $3.5bn in debt from Australian and international banks to finance its 2.0 expansion scheme with the renewables operator on track to start bringing the project online by late 2024 to early 2025.
Critics including the National Parks Association of NSW have raised concerns the project will damage the environment and endanger threatened species.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/busine ... c4d443ae07
-
Juliar
- Posts: 1355
- Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:56 am
Re: The Socialist way...
Oh Wow the Socialist Republic of Victoria is featured again in bed with the Chows.
The Voters are in no doubt that Victoria needs a change of Govt to rid itself of the Socialist Curse.
Last Post, May 22
12:00AM MAY 22, 2020
The difference between China and democratic nations is that China plays the long-term game because its rulers do not have to face elections. A democratic authority that ignores the short term, in the interests of its nation, must be admired. Australia faces long-term decisions now.
Michael Howitt, Tewantin, Qld
After reading “Victoria’s long march for China” (21/5) I wonder how long it will be before China demands the peaceful reunification of its province of Victoria.
David Scarr, Paradise Point, Qld
The Victorian government’s dalliance with the Chinese Communist Party and its intention to compromise sovereignty by signing up to Beijing’s Belt and Road Initiative are a risk to national security. So why isn’t the federal government using its powers to close the door on this woolly headed deal?
John McLeod, Sunshine Coast, Qld
Memo to Victorians: before joining tributary African states in the Belt and Road debt trap, be aware that what’s bearing down the Silk Road towards you is not a barley truck.
Tim Fatchen, Mt Barker, SA
The Victorian government is a tool of Chinese expansionism. Its MPs will no doubt be given the best rooms in the Imperial Palace when they next visit their Belt and Road masters in Beijing.
Mark Scanlan, Hawthorne, Qld
I don’t know why Trade Minister Simon Birmingham needs a hit list of exports that could be targeted by China. Just make a list of all exports grown or manufactured in the state of Victoria. They would be exempt.
Margaret Bergomi, Lane Cove, NSW
I assume that “wolf warrior” is a euphemism for a breed of attack dog.
Elizabeth Moser, Newtown, Vic
Wolves run in packs, pursue their prey, encircle it and in a frenzy, tear it into pieces of flesh and bone. Hardly a form of diplomacy.
Susan Caughey, Glen Iris, Vic
It’s far better to be America’s dog than Marx’s bastard.
Geoff O’Brien, Eltham, Vic
China is an old civilisation but you wouldn’t know that by the utterings of its diplomats. Australia is the “dog of the US”, so what does that make China? The deep fried bat of the South China Sea?
Andrew Warrilow, Lawson, NSW
If we’re all in it together, then why close state and territory borders? Some premiers are sounding a bit like Prince Leonard of Hutt River.
Peter Sesterka, Hawker, ACT
If Donald Trump persists with quack remedies, even the “deplorables” will desert him.
Les Shearman, Darlington, NSW
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commen ... c47ff7fcfe
Victorian government is playing a dangerous game
12:00AM MAY 22, 2020
Victorian Labor Treasurer Tim Pallas was quick to blame the federal government for the punitive tariff decision made by China. Your excellent story (“Victoria’s long march for China”, 21/5) answers my concerns.
The lure of billions of dollars in Chinese investment under the Belt and Road Initiative helps explain Pallas’s rationalisations. There should be transparency about this agreement, if only to avoid a repeat of the port of Darwin debacle.
The corrosive influence of Chinese donations to the NSW Labor Party is already the subject of an investigation by ICAC. Any link between the Victorian government and the organisation at the centre of this inquiry, bears further investigation.
It’s heartening to know that my concerns are shared by a number of unions and Labor politicians who believe the defence of Australia’s sovereignty is beyond point scoring.
Jennie George, Mollymook, NSW
It’s little wonder that Tim Pallas came out so strongly and insultingly against the federal government’s request for an inquiry into how and where COVID-19 began. Premier Daniel Andrews and Pallas, being in the final stages of a Belt and Road Initiative deal with Beijing are desperate that nothing should wreck it. The whole deal should be wrecked. The Victorian government is playing a dangerous gaTim me and it seems too naive and dumb to realise it.
The federal government must step in and stop this wild and unAustralian behaviour before it’s too late.
Patricia M. Smith, Mt Martha, Vic
Daniel Andrews and Tim Pallas should focus on state issues and leave foreign affairs to the federal government. The secretive Belt and Road Initiative the state government signed with communist China against security agency advice, has potentially exposed Victoria to dangerous foreign influence.
This, in addition to the huge public debt burden the government is placing upon future generations, is also leaving us dangerously exposed.
The Premier, who refused to criticise China over the COVID-19 disaster, despite the economic havoc caused to the world, has already been compromised in his public comments.
Australia has a golden opportunity to uncouple our economy from China and now is not the time to behave in an obsequious manner toward the Chinese Communist Party.
Peter Curtis, Werribee South, Vic
Victorian Treasurer Tim Pallas is endangering the national economy with reckless comments about the China-Australia relationship.
Pallas seems to believe Victoria has no responsibility for the greater good of the country. He has cozied up to China while rebuking the federal government. Australia’s largest trading partner would be rubbing its hands together at this fault line in the governance of our nation.
Pallas should reconsider his language in matters related to Australia’s international interests and at least give the impression of playing for the home team.
Victoria is not immune to the effects of any tariffs imposed, and it may be that he finds himself drawing on history when he is betrayed.
Tim Sauer, East Brighton, Vic
Victoria’s intention to sign up to China’s Belt and Road Initiative should not be allowed to progress. At this time of clear and present threat from China to our trade, security and national integrity, it is apparent that Beijing intends to weaponise Victoria to conduct hybrid warfare against Canberra.
The wordings in the agreements are an application of supra-state relations and are already covered by the state-to-state relationship of Australia and China.
It is an unnecessary duplication of trade relations that seeks to go beyond allowed foreign investments and other footholds into territory with advanced debt burdens.
The dependency Australia has on China has been duly noted and claw back is entirely prudent. Victorians should have confidence in their ability to conduct free trade with China without the Five Eyes arrangements.
With COVID-19 not under control in Victoria as yet, it would not be a failure or weakness for Daniel Andrews to halt this Belt and Road deal at least until after the global virus investigation is completed or until the escalating South China Sea occupation of territory is resolved. Victoria must be an Australian state first.
Mary Jardine-Clarke, Spearwood, WA
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commen ... e0fcbf05b8
-
Juliar
- Posts: 1355
- Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:56 am
Re: The Socialist way...
The Socialist "Govt" of Victoria is really worried about the furor with China over the virus and tariffs.
Labor Treasurer Tim Pallas lashes out at Morrison government as China deal deadline looms
DAMON JOHNSTON RACHEL BAXENDALE 9:17AM MAY 21, 2020
Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews at Tiananmen Square in Beijing in 2015
Victoria is locked in critical final-stage negotiations with Beijing over investments worth billions of dollars at the same time as its Treasurer has savaged the Morrison government’s “vilification” of China over trade and the COVID-19 pandemic.
Tim Pallas’s pro-China intervention comes as the deadline for Victoria to sign an “investment road map”, which ties the state to the communist giant with extraordinarily cosy language, is just weeks away.
Under Victoria’s decision to sign-up to China’s Belt and Road Initiative — in defiance of federal government security advice — key investment details are meant to be signed by the middle of 2020 following completion of a draft road map in March.
The looming deadline emerged as the Andrews government dodged parliamentary questions on Wednesday about whether any of the state’s $24bn coronavirus rescue package would be borrowed from China.
The “framework agreement” underpinning the Victoria-China deal was signed by Premier Daniel Andrews and Vice-Chairman Ning Jizhe of the National Development and Reform Commission of the People’s Republic of China on October 23 last year.
The document raises the possibility that Mr Pallas’s unprecedented backing of Beijing in its row with the Morrison government over the global coronavirus pandemic investigation was motivated by protecting the Belt and Road Initiative.
The “co-operation principles” in the nine-page agreement — entitled Jointly Promoting the Silk Road Economic Belt and the 21st Century Maritime Silk Road — uses exceptionally reverential language to mandate how Victoria should conduct its state-to-superpower relationship.
Article 1 states Victoria and China must: “Adhere to the principle of mutual consultation, joint efforts and shared benefits. Bearing the Silk Road spirit of peace, co-operation, openness, inclusiveness, mutual learning and mutual benefit.
“Adhere to the principles of business-dominated, market-orientated and government-guided.
“The governments of both sides should strengthen co-ordination and guidance, as well as policy support to ensure long-term and sustainable co-operation … stick to all-round co-operation … with a focus on pushing forward important areas and major projects that have a bearing on the long-term interests of the two sides.”
On Tuesday, Victoria’s Treasurer launched a savage attack on the Morrison government, laying direct blame for China’s 80 per cent tariff hit on Australian barley farmers on the federal government’s decision to push for a global investigation into China’s role in the pandemic.
“I think I’ve been pretty clear that I’m not a big fan of the way the federal government has managed the relationship with China more generally,” Mr Pallas said.
Asked whether he saw China’s tariffs as retaliation for Australia’s stance on an inquiry into the origins of COVID-19, Mr Pallas said: “I can’t hazard to speculate what goes on in the minds of leaders of other countries. All I can say is I don’t suppose it would come as a surprise to anybody that this was the consequences of the way that the federal government have conducted themselves.”
Asked last week whether Victoria’s Belt and Road agreement should be paused pending the outcome of an inquiry into the origins of coronavirus, Mr Pallas said “Absolutely not”.
“The inquiry, and of course there does need to be an inquiry into this pandemic event, but I think the idea of vilification of any single nation in this context, I think, is dangerous, damaging and probably irresponsible in many respects,” he said.
“What they don’t need is vilification of one nation who have gone through a very traumatic time themselves and need necessarily to recover their economy, and we see a partnership with all trading nations as being a vital part of the growth and the opportunity for Victorians.”
The Andrews government failed to respond to detailed questions from The Australian about the October 23 “framework agreement”. It also declined to detail any specific investments that have been generated by the Victoria-China deal more broadly.
“This agreement is about creating opportunities for Victorian businesses and local jobs — opportunities that will be more important than ever as we rebuild from the coronavirus pandemic. We have no update on the road map at this time,” a spokeswoman said.
“The focus of government is on protecting the health of Victorians by slowing the spread of coronavirus, and getting thousands of people back to work — building projects that matter to Victoria.”
The Pallas intervention is the latest chapter in a long and close relationship between Mr Andrews and China, which blossomed in 2013 when he was opposition leader and conducted an official visit to Beijing.
Since coming to office in November 2014, Mr Andrews has visited China six times. In his last official visit in October last year, he signed the “framework agreement” locking Victoria into inking the deal by mid-2020.
Mr Andrews’s flourishing relationship with China can be charted back to his time as opposition leader between 2010 and 2014.
A young Chinese-Australian adviser called Mike Yang, who worked in the Andrews camp in 2011-13, is credited with being the architect of the relationship. In 2013, he accompanied Mr Andrews on a trip to China.
Photos of that trip — just a year before he would be elected Premier — show a beaming and youthful Mr Andrews taking in the sites such as The Great Wall and a local market.
Mr Yang has been a vice-president of the Australian Council for the Promotion of Peaceful Reunification of China, an organisation criticised as being a front for spreading pro-Communist Party policies and messages in Australia.
Mr Yang has described the group as nothing more than “another Chinese community group”.
Mr Pallas’s decision to criticise the Morrison government came despite Beijing’s barley tariff appearing to breach the October 2019 BRI “framework agreement” that sets out a commitment to free trade.
It is also a massive snub to Victoria’s barley farmers. Wheat is Victoria’s largest crop, followed by barley.
Article 3 commits both China and Victoria to supporting free trade. “The two sides agreed to promote … unimpeded trade, financial co-operation and people-to-people ties” as part of the shared objective of enhancing “two-way trade for mutual benefit between Victoria and China, especially for agricultural products, food …”
The Victoria-China document deals with dispute resolution in just 17 words, stating: “Both sides will settle differences in the interpretation, application or implementation of this agreement through friendly consultations.”
In Article 4 of the “framework agreement”, China makes four major commitments in return for Victoria signing up. “Both sides have good co-operation, foundation, great potential and prospect,” the agreement states.
Beijing makes a commitment to encourage Chinese infrastructure firms to set up in Victoria, promoting Victoria’s building projects in China, briefing Victorian firms on “third party” opportunities and exploring the possibility of establishing a “joint infrastructure accelerator”.
On Wednesday, Transport Infrastructure Minister Jacinta Allan repeatedly refused to answer questions about whether up to $24.5bn the Andrews government intends to borrow to deal with the coronavirus pandemic will be sought from China through the Belt and Road agreement.
Ms Allan fronted a parliamentary accounts and estimates committee hearing and faced questions about Chinese involvement in signature infrastructure projects including the Melbourne Metro rail tunnel and West Gate Tunnel. Chinese government-backed companies, including John Holland and MTR, are key members of the consortium building the projects.
Committee deputy chair and Liberal MP Richard Riordan repeatedly asked how much of the $24.5bn in borrowings would come from the Chinese government.
Ms Allan initially sought to deflect the question, before Mr Riordan interjected: “Minister, back to the tunnels. What are your commitments with the Chinese government?”
Committee chair and Labor MP Lizzie Blandthorn then intervened, asking Mr Riordan to keep his questions “relevant” to the COVID-19 pandemic.
“It’s very relevant. We’re wondering how it’s funded. Go for it, minister. Have you got an answer?” Mr Riordan hit back.
Ms Allan again deflected the question, referring to the appearances by the Premier and Treasurer and their commitment to account for the expenditure of the $24bn. “I’ve got nothing further to add,” she said.
Mr Riordan continued to urge Ms Allan to return to the issue of Chinese involvement in building and funding Victorian infrastructure projects.
Ms Allan replied: “That question that you go to around commitments made with China and commitments on our projects, I think it’s more than a little overstepping the bounds of the terms of reference for this inquiry and the bounds of any sort of decent public discussion about public delivery of transport infrastructure projects in this state.”
Mr Riordan then asked: “Will you rule out using the Belt and Road agreements with your government and the Chinese government to help finish these projects?”
Ms Allan then sought to have the question ruled out of order on the basis that it was “not relevant” to the inquiry’s terms of reference.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation ... 93f148e3a8
The Voters are scared stiff of the Chinese Socialist takeover of Victoria!!!!!
Bruce 22 HOURS AGO
This decision at this time is against the National interest. State Governments should not be permitted to engage with Regimes such as Communist China who do not share our values and are proven to unfriendly to our nation....Premier Andrews and his merry band are acting in a manner that will put them offside with mainstream opinions of the majority of Australians....shame on them for even considering going ahead with this scheme.
Ron 22 HOURS AGO
Australia's National Sovereignty must be first cab off the rank and I think this Victorian/Chinese contract which appears to be all encompassing will surrender Victoria's sovereignty to China. A state with in The State that is highly subject to external foreign influences to appease the foreign power.
When the Andrews Labor government is voted out or this Labor party leadership group is replaced will the "contract" be readily dismantled?
Will China's sphere of influence be so entwined within Victoria's Labor party and economy as to become the defacto principle political power?
I have never known a lender not to get a good return on their investment and I wonder at what price Andrew's Labor party has contracted in the next economical and political return.
Georgina 1 DAY AGO
I cannot thank The Australian enough for highlighting this cosy relationship that Victoria has developed with China.
Please continue to do so as the Belt and Road initiative has been a cause of great anxiety to me for many months now as I see my home state sink slowly under CCP influence.
I don’t believe that Dan is naive. He will use any means to achieve his goal of being remembered as the greatest infrastructure Premier that Victoria has ever had. Yes, Victoria was dragging the chain on its infrastructure build, but to sell your soul to the CCP to achieve it, I think not.
Labor Treasurer Tim Pallas lashes out at Morrison government as China deal deadline looms
DAMON JOHNSTON RACHEL BAXENDALE 9:17AM MAY 21, 2020
Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews at Tiananmen Square in Beijing in 2015
Victoria is locked in critical final-stage negotiations with Beijing over investments worth billions of dollars at the same time as its Treasurer has savaged the Morrison government’s “vilification” of China over trade and the COVID-19 pandemic.
Tim Pallas’s pro-China intervention comes as the deadline for Victoria to sign an “investment road map”, which ties the state to the communist giant with extraordinarily cosy language, is just weeks away.
Under Victoria’s decision to sign-up to China’s Belt and Road Initiative — in defiance of federal government security advice — key investment details are meant to be signed by the middle of 2020 following completion of a draft road map in March.
The looming deadline emerged as the Andrews government dodged parliamentary questions on Wednesday about whether any of the state’s $24bn coronavirus rescue package would be borrowed from China.
The “framework agreement” underpinning the Victoria-China deal was signed by Premier Daniel Andrews and Vice-Chairman Ning Jizhe of the National Development and Reform Commission of the People’s Republic of China on October 23 last year.
The document raises the possibility that Mr Pallas’s unprecedented backing of Beijing in its row with the Morrison government over the global coronavirus pandemic investigation was motivated by protecting the Belt and Road Initiative.
The “co-operation principles” in the nine-page agreement — entitled Jointly Promoting the Silk Road Economic Belt and the 21st Century Maritime Silk Road — uses exceptionally reverential language to mandate how Victoria should conduct its state-to-superpower relationship.
Article 1 states Victoria and China must: “Adhere to the principle of mutual consultation, joint efforts and shared benefits. Bearing the Silk Road spirit of peace, co-operation, openness, inclusiveness, mutual learning and mutual benefit.
“Adhere to the principles of business-dominated, market-orientated and government-guided.
“The governments of both sides should strengthen co-ordination and guidance, as well as policy support to ensure long-term and sustainable co-operation … stick to all-round co-operation … with a focus on pushing forward important areas and major projects that have a bearing on the long-term interests of the two sides.”
On Tuesday, Victoria’s Treasurer launched a savage attack on the Morrison government, laying direct blame for China’s 80 per cent tariff hit on Australian barley farmers on the federal government’s decision to push for a global investigation into China’s role in the pandemic.
“I think I’ve been pretty clear that I’m not a big fan of the way the federal government has managed the relationship with China more generally,” Mr Pallas said.
Asked whether he saw China’s tariffs as retaliation for Australia’s stance on an inquiry into the origins of COVID-19, Mr Pallas said: “I can’t hazard to speculate what goes on in the minds of leaders of other countries. All I can say is I don’t suppose it would come as a surprise to anybody that this was the consequences of the way that the federal government have conducted themselves.”
Asked last week whether Victoria’s Belt and Road agreement should be paused pending the outcome of an inquiry into the origins of coronavirus, Mr Pallas said “Absolutely not”.
“The inquiry, and of course there does need to be an inquiry into this pandemic event, but I think the idea of vilification of any single nation in this context, I think, is dangerous, damaging and probably irresponsible in many respects,” he said.
“What they don’t need is vilification of one nation who have gone through a very traumatic time themselves and need necessarily to recover their economy, and we see a partnership with all trading nations as being a vital part of the growth and the opportunity for Victorians.”
The Andrews government failed to respond to detailed questions from The Australian about the October 23 “framework agreement”. It also declined to detail any specific investments that have been generated by the Victoria-China deal more broadly.
“This agreement is about creating opportunities for Victorian businesses and local jobs — opportunities that will be more important than ever as we rebuild from the coronavirus pandemic. We have no update on the road map at this time,” a spokeswoman said.
“The focus of government is on protecting the health of Victorians by slowing the spread of coronavirus, and getting thousands of people back to work — building projects that matter to Victoria.”
The Pallas intervention is the latest chapter in a long and close relationship between Mr Andrews and China, which blossomed in 2013 when he was opposition leader and conducted an official visit to Beijing.
Since coming to office in November 2014, Mr Andrews has visited China six times. In his last official visit in October last year, he signed the “framework agreement” locking Victoria into inking the deal by mid-2020.
Mr Andrews’s flourishing relationship with China can be charted back to his time as opposition leader between 2010 and 2014.
A young Chinese-Australian adviser called Mike Yang, who worked in the Andrews camp in 2011-13, is credited with being the architect of the relationship. In 2013, he accompanied Mr Andrews on a trip to China.
Photos of that trip — just a year before he would be elected Premier — show a beaming and youthful Mr Andrews taking in the sites such as The Great Wall and a local market.
Mr Yang has been a vice-president of the Australian Council for the Promotion of Peaceful Reunification of China, an organisation criticised as being a front for spreading pro-Communist Party policies and messages in Australia.
Mr Yang has described the group as nothing more than “another Chinese community group”.
Mr Pallas’s decision to criticise the Morrison government came despite Beijing’s barley tariff appearing to breach the October 2019 BRI “framework agreement” that sets out a commitment to free trade.
It is also a massive snub to Victoria’s barley farmers. Wheat is Victoria’s largest crop, followed by barley.
Article 3 commits both China and Victoria to supporting free trade. “The two sides agreed to promote … unimpeded trade, financial co-operation and people-to-people ties” as part of the shared objective of enhancing “two-way trade for mutual benefit between Victoria and China, especially for agricultural products, food …”
The Victoria-China document deals with dispute resolution in just 17 words, stating: “Both sides will settle differences in the interpretation, application or implementation of this agreement through friendly consultations.”
In Article 4 of the “framework agreement”, China makes four major commitments in return for Victoria signing up. “Both sides have good co-operation, foundation, great potential and prospect,” the agreement states.
Beijing makes a commitment to encourage Chinese infrastructure firms to set up in Victoria, promoting Victoria’s building projects in China, briefing Victorian firms on “third party” opportunities and exploring the possibility of establishing a “joint infrastructure accelerator”.
On Wednesday, Transport Infrastructure Minister Jacinta Allan repeatedly refused to answer questions about whether up to $24.5bn the Andrews government intends to borrow to deal with the coronavirus pandemic will be sought from China through the Belt and Road agreement.
Ms Allan fronted a parliamentary accounts and estimates committee hearing and faced questions about Chinese involvement in signature infrastructure projects including the Melbourne Metro rail tunnel and West Gate Tunnel. Chinese government-backed companies, including John Holland and MTR, are key members of the consortium building the projects.
Committee deputy chair and Liberal MP Richard Riordan repeatedly asked how much of the $24.5bn in borrowings would come from the Chinese government.
Ms Allan initially sought to deflect the question, before Mr Riordan interjected: “Minister, back to the tunnels. What are your commitments with the Chinese government?”
Committee chair and Labor MP Lizzie Blandthorn then intervened, asking Mr Riordan to keep his questions “relevant” to the COVID-19 pandemic.
“It’s very relevant. We’re wondering how it’s funded. Go for it, minister. Have you got an answer?” Mr Riordan hit back.
Ms Allan again deflected the question, referring to the appearances by the Premier and Treasurer and their commitment to account for the expenditure of the $24bn. “I’ve got nothing further to add,” she said.
Mr Riordan continued to urge Ms Allan to return to the issue of Chinese involvement in building and funding Victorian infrastructure projects.
Ms Allan replied: “That question that you go to around commitments made with China and commitments on our projects, I think it’s more than a little overstepping the bounds of the terms of reference for this inquiry and the bounds of any sort of decent public discussion about public delivery of transport infrastructure projects in this state.”
Mr Riordan then asked: “Will you rule out using the Belt and Road agreements with your government and the Chinese government to help finish these projects?”
Ms Allan then sought to have the question ruled out of order on the basis that it was “not relevant” to the inquiry’s terms of reference.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation ... 93f148e3a8
The Voters are scared stiff of the Chinese Socialist takeover of Victoria!!!!!
Bruce 22 HOURS AGO
This decision at this time is against the National interest. State Governments should not be permitted to engage with Regimes such as Communist China who do not share our values and are proven to unfriendly to our nation....Premier Andrews and his merry band are acting in a manner that will put them offside with mainstream opinions of the majority of Australians....shame on them for even considering going ahead with this scheme.
Ron 22 HOURS AGO
Australia's National Sovereignty must be first cab off the rank and I think this Victorian/Chinese contract which appears to be all encompassing will surrender Victoria's sovereignty to China. A state with in The State that is highly subject to external foreign influences to appease the foreign power.
When the Andrews Labor government is voted out or this Labor party leadership group is replaced will the "contract" be readily dismantled?
Will China's sphere of influence be so entwined within Victoria's Labor party and economy as to become the defacto principle political power?
I have never known a lender not to get a good return on their investment and I wonder at what price Andrew's Labor party has contracted in the next economical and political return.
Georgina 1 DAY AGO
I cannot thank The Australian enough for highlighting this cosy relationship that Victoria has developed with China.
Please continue to do so as the Belt and Road initiative has been a cause of great anxiety to me for many months now as I see my home state sink slowly under CCP influence.
I don’t believe that Dan is naive. He will use any means to achieve his goal of being remembered as the greatest infrastructure Premier that Victoria has ever had. Yes, Victoria was dragging the chain on its infrastructure build, but to sell your soul to the CCP to achieve it, I think not.
-
Juliar
- Posts: 1355
- Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:56 am
Re: The Socialist way...
Labor can't manage money.
Jackie Trad and Labor have run up $92 billion in debt - the worst in the country.
The interest on that debt is money that could have been invested in better schools, hospitals and roads. Or new dams.
And the interest bill is footed by you and your family, with Labor's nine new or increased taxes totaling $3.5 billion.
That is the cost of Labor's mismanagement.
We had no debt under Joh, it's easy to do even for people, the trick is to spend less than your income. All I've seen for years from the public sector is how easy it is to spend someone else's money, and there never seems to be any auditing of the an item's cost.
$92B debt ÷ 5M Qlders = $18,000 debt for every man, woman and child, rego, power bills, speed and red light camera fines, etc just won't be enough to pay that back anymore, let alone the interest on that level of debt. If you were that irresponsible personally, you'd file for bankruptcy.
Debt Debt and more Debt
The Voters will get their REVENGE at the next election!!!!
Jackie Trad and Labor have run up $92 billion in debt - the worst in the country.
The interest on that debt is money that could have been invested in better schools, hospitals and roads. Or new dams.
And the interest bill is footed by you and your family, with Labor's nine new or increased taxes totaling $3.5 billion.
That is the cost of Labor's mismanagement.
We had no debt under Joh, it's easy to do even for people, the trick is to spend less than your income. All I've seen for years from the public sector is how easy it is to spend someone else's money, and there never seems to be any auditing of the an item's cost.
$92B debt ÷ 5M Qlders = $18,000 debt for every man, woman and child, rego, power bills, speed and red light camera fines, etc just won't be enough to pay that back anymore, let alone the interest on that level of debt. If you were that irresponsible personally, you'd file for bankruptcy.
Debt Debt and more Debt
The Voters will get their REVENGE at the next election!!!!
-
Juliar
- Posts: 1355
- Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:56 am
Re: The Socialist way...
Labor failures sinking together. Will there soon be Lib Govts in Vic and Qld ?
-
Juliar
- Posts: 1355
- Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:56 am
Re: The Socialist way...
Patriotic Pauline with fangs bared is coming for Mrs PallaChook over the closed borders.
Hey, Pauline, you’re not allowed to shoot a sitting chook! Mind you without the weight of Trad in her saddle bags the load is considerably lighter!
Hanson’s lawyers poised to strike Palaszczuk
AMM 27.05.20.
Patriotic Pauline
One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has accused the Queensland Premier of “scaremongering” after confirming her High Court challenge would go ahead if Annastacia Palaszczuk keeps the state’s borders closed.
Senator Hanson confirmed that Guy Reynolds SC will be the lawyer to lead her High Court challenge against the closure of the Sunshine state’s border.
“COVID-19 has been nothing but scaremongering by the Premier in Queensland Annastacia Palaszczuk, plus also Jeannette Young who is the chief medical officer,” Senator Hanson said on 2GB.”
https://morningmail.org/hansons-lawyers ... ore-116914
Hanson lawyers up for High Court challenge
Source: Angelica Snowden, News Corp
Mrs PallaChook guards her nest.
“Annastacia Palaszcuk has just been throwing her weight around leading into Queensland’s state election,” she said.
The Senator said a letter would be sent to Ms Palaszczuk in the next 24 hours to confirm her intention to proceed with the challenge that the border closure is unconstitutional.
Senator Hanson also took aim at the Western Australian Premier Mark McGowan.
“Palaszczuk or whether it’s McGowan in Western Australia, have they ever run a business?” she said.
“Have they ever employed people? The answer is probably no.
“They are acting not as true leaders but as dictators and they have to be held to account.”
Senator Hanson said she had not spoken to Clive Palmer about a similar case he has lodged against WA’s border closure.
https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6159334800001
Hey, Pauline, you’re not allowed to shoot a sitting chook! Mind you without the weight of Trad in her saddle bags the load is considerably lighter!
Hanson’s lawyers poised to strike Palaszczuk
AMM 27.05.20.
Patriotic Pauline
One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has accused the Queensland Premier of “scaremongering” after confirming her High Court challenge would go ahead if Annastacia Palaszczuk keeps the state’s borders closed.
Senator Hanson confirmed that Guy Reynolds SC will be the lawyer to lead her High Court challenge against the closure of the Sunshine state’s border.
“COVID-19 has been nothing but scaremongering by the Premier in Queensland Annastacia Palaszczuk, plus also Jeannette Young who is the chief medical officer,” Senator Hanson said on 2GB.”
https://morningmail.org/hansons-lawyers ... ore-116914
Hanson lawyers up for High Court challenge
Source: Angelica Snowden, News Corp
Mrs PallaChook guards her nest.
“Annastacia Palaszcuk has just been throwing her weight around leading into Queensland’s state election,” she said.
The Senator said a letter would be sent to Ms Palaszczuk in the next 24 hours to confirm her intention to proceed with the challenge that the border closure is unconstitutional.
Senator Hanson also took aim at the Western Australian Premier Mark McGowan.
“Palaszczuk or whether it’s McGowan in Western Australia, have they ever run a business?” she said.
“Have they ever employed people? The answer is probably no.
“They are acting not as true leaders but as dictators and they have to be held to account.”
Senator Hanson said she had not spoken to Clive Palmer about a similar case he has lodged against WA’s border closure.
https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6159334800001
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 66 guests