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The Socialist way...

Post by Juliar » Thu May 21, 2020 8:14 am

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Debt Debt and more Debt!!

A Socialist "Govt" ALWAYS BLOATS the Public Service, racks up enormous crippling DEBT, forces industries to close, makes the unions power mad, etc.

And what does the ordinary bloke in the street reckon ?

Geoff Edwards Billions Paul, not Millions. You watch. Anna has one hand on the boom gate button and the other about to go out to the taxpayer because tourism is suffering. If QLD is doing so well, perhaps Canberra can stop all stimulus payments to anyone in QLD.

Dennis Quinn Let's host the Olympics $$$$$ let's buy a loss making airline $$$$$. Your a genius Anna.

Jon Copson Its actually a lot worse than anyone could imagine with this state underinsuring assets, broke and unable to offer assitance to those who reside in QLD. Who will be paying for it?? All the othwr states

Peter Tate How is the purchase of an airline going to be funded? Surely the Qld development Fund has some form of charter that would not permit it to invest in a business that has lost hundreds of millions of dollars since it commenced trading.

James Currie Exactly, otherwise that would have been deaths. Never forget the Ruby Princess. Queensland is divine country, repent and we'll let you in. Maybe.

Pattie Hillenberg Geez everybody's an expert...then why are you all not running in the elections or doing the hard yards .... our leaders are doing their best in a terrible situation...we are all in this together ..or so we thought ??

Timothy R Bassett What we need ( like a hole in the head ) is a failed AIRLINE to be run by a FAILED GOVERNMENT , to finish labor’s experiment with government ,,,, I blame the sheeple for this

Leone Brennan Led by the stupid bureaucrats, who are as dumb as meat axes. I think tourists are Qld's main industry. Borders closed until September. What fools and feeling so sorry for the Queenslanders themselves. Businesses will close forever. My par…See more

Hank Steuten The pic is actually missing three 0’s!

Jan Munro Unfortunately mindless people thought she would save Qld from Newmans sacking of the over amount of public servants, who she then re-employed, & has gone from bad to worse putting yhe State into huge debt, & still delusional with the spending! Why can’t people see what she’s doing especially not sacking Trad ages ago!

Bill Smith But. But. there is an election looming and Jacki says that I have to look after our voters and not let any of those corrupt Southerners in to wreck havoc with our campaign

Fiona Jerinic And they want to buy Virgin 🙄

Roger Mcconaghy Need another 3 Zeros, come on get it right lol.

John Young Remember QLD, we elected this group of thieves to power and they then employed tens of thousands of extra bureaucrats. To them $90,000,000,000 is no problem.

Leone Brennan The Premier can't even pronounce her own name, so how can she possibly get anything else right. PALASZCZUK is pronounced PALASCHOOK how does she get PALASCHET out of it.?

Timothy Grey The debt had blown out before the virus

Peter Camilleri How much is that per Queensland taxpayer ..???
Anyone ??!!

Robyn Aspden It just defies all logic, that these useless dick heads get elected !!! Hope some sort of sanity prevails at the election at the end of the year. Corrupt hopeless wankers !!!!

Mike Metcalfe Does keep the southern greenies out?

Eleanor Evans There is an election in October , she doesn’t care about the state ,but she sure as hell will make sure it’s broken out of money ,and anyone that has a business will lose , she knows she has lost the election and her pension should be paid to the state

Ben McFarlane FFS people we are on the verge of a global economic disaster and you would all be pissing in your panties if all Government spending ceased, you know why? Because it would absolutely decimate Australias economy, crash the housing markets, erase billion…See more

Anthony Pierce Um Paul, you left off 3 zeros to make it billions

Les White That aint right fer sure, there's quite a few noughts short there

Claudelle Evans You voted for them... 🙄

David Owen Evans . . . . and we expect our Southern Friends to help pay it off by holidaying in Sunny Queensland.😁

James Ridgeway No one can live within their means anymore.

Robert Yuille Just wait till she signs up to s belt on road scam

Kris Rambler Old proverb says
Never give razor to monkey and power to stupid people.

Milly McDilly This is gonna sound crazy, but itbs just fr Hebrew code peeps.
It's the other part of kuf the monkey (speech) Kuf is 19 ordinal, cardinal 100. Tsade is 90 cardinal, tzaddik, the judgements, the prisoners, thise who bow down to the zayin (sword). It s…See more

Milly McDilly So if we released our prisoners due to covid 19 risks like Iran did, it s not unheard of.
Michael White Too few zeros

Milly McDilly https://www.facebook.com/770046107/post ... 953071108/

Jennifer Yates Typical labour

Emily Lee Reap what you sow

Wade Broderick Gold Paul Gold!

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Re: The Socialist way...

Post by Redneck » Thu May 21, 2020 8:24 am

Usual cut and paste nonsense from the shill !!

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Re: The Socialist way...

Post by Juliar » Thu May 21, 2020 8:40 am

More of the usual Socialist HATE STUFF from the inarticulate hate filled Socialist Extremist Reddy.

Reddy, why don't you beg MUNK to let you back into his Socialist Snake Pit site ? You would feel totally at home there drinking Socialist HATE with like minded Socialists seething with HATE.

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Re: The Socialist way...

Post by Juliar » Thu May 21, 2020 9:09 am

Labor States of Victoria & Queensland are going neck and neck to see who can rack up the biggest debt.

Poor Libs if they get in having to fix this mess.

Looks like QLD is ahead with 91.6 billion and Vic is up to 70 billion by next financial year? ALP "Spending up a Storm"


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Mrs Pallachook puts all her eggs in the one empty basket.



'Virgin bid an attempt to protect jobs, not make a profit': Qld Treasurer
15/05/2020

Sky News host Peta Credlin says it’s difficult to take the Queensland government “seriously,” when the new Treasurer Cameron Dick has made a $200 million dollar bid for Virgin Australia, but doesn't "know the size of Virgin's debt".

The Qld Treasurer is in charge of spending Queensland's annual budget of $60 billion and is the key decision-maker when it comes to how much is spent on hospitals, schools, police and infrastructure in that state.

"You've got to wonder if he even knows what he's doing," Ms Credlin said.

Mr Dick also said Virgin would be run to protect Qld jobs and services services, and not to make, a profit.

However, the charter of the Queensland Investment Corporation (QIC), which is the entity making the bid, requires the government to get a commercial rate of return on it’s investments.

“On top of all the other things he doesn’t know,” Mr Dick is “also ignorant” of the QIC’s charter," Ms Credlin said.

She said her “hunch” was “the state government only launched this bid to distract from the Trad corruption probe and, as a pre-election stunt to make it look serious about jobs”.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6156850861001

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Re: The Socialist way...

Post by Juliar » Thu May 21, 2020 9:24 am

Question: Is the Victorian "government" a shill for communist China ? Answer: Is the Pope a Catholic ?

Wonder how many empty Aldi shopping bags are lying around Melbourne ?

Whitlam had his Khemlani Affair, now it looks like Andrews is working on his own version. Like Whitlam it won’t end well.




Is Victorian government a shill for communist China?
AMM 21.05.20.

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Ah yes! The old “terms of reference” ploy in which slimy bureaucrats limit inquiries to “what is your name!”

To ask “what day is it” is out of order.

Andrews knows full well that his frolic with communist China was a very bad move—filthy lucre, combined with illusions of grandeur is something that idiot could not forego.

Mr Andrews is a liability to Australia’s security and was advised of that during his courtship with the golden dragon. It worries that so many Victorians think well of him—things cannot end well, now read why!

Victorian Transport Infrastructure Minister Jacinta Allan has repeatedly refused to answer questions about whether up to $24.5bn the Andrews government intends to borrow to deal with the coronavirus pandemic will be sought from China through the Belt and Road agreement.

Ms Allan fronted a Parliamentary Accounts and Estimates Committee hearing on Wednesday, facing questions about Chinese involvement in signature infrastructure projects including the Melbourne Metro rail tunnel and West Gate Tunnel.




Minister refuses to clarify Chinese links to $24.5bn loan plan
Source: Rachel Baxendale, News Corp

Chinese government-backed companies including CPB, John Holland and MTR are key members of the consortia building the projects.
Both projects have recently run into trouble, with the Andrews government in negotiations over a cost blowout that could exceed $3bn on Melbourne Metro, and more than 200 West Gate Tunnel workers recently stood down amid a dispute over toxic soil.


Read about the Commo Victorian "Govt's" frolic with the Chinese Commos here

https://morningmail.org/is-victorian-go ... ore-116668

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Re: The Socialist way...

Post by Redneck » Thu May 21, 2020 9:49 am

FFS Mods can you boot this shill off the forum!!

Its all cut and paste nonsense!! :smack

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Re: The Socialist way...

Post by Juliar » Thu May 21, 2020 10:01 am

More of the usual Socialist HATE STUFF from the inarticulate hate filled Socialist Extremist Reddy.

Reddy, why don't you beg MUNK to let you back into his Socialist Snake Pit site ? You would feel totally at home there drinking Socialist HATE with like minded Socialists seething with HATE.

BO, you want MORE members but who would want to waste time reading silly Socialist HATE STUFF from the likes of disturbed Socialist Extremists dependent on Socialist Handouts like Reddy ?

Anyone who craves that sort of rubbish goes to MUNK's Socialist Snake Pit Site.

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Re: The Socialist way...

Post by Bobby » Thu May 21, 2020 10:04 am

Hi Patriot aka Juliar aka Longweekend.
Are you a paid Libbo shill?
Do you get $5 per post?

I just need honesty.

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Re: The Socialist way...

Post by Redneck » Thu May 21, 2020 10:10 am

Juliar wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 10:01 am

Anyone who craves that sort of rubbish goes to MUNK's Socialist Snake Pit Site.
Monk did one thing right....he booted you off ! :rofl

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Re: The Socialist way...

Post by Juliar » Thu May 21, 2020 10:19 am

Robert, you are like a broken record. You sound like Reddy. That should shock you out of it.

And Reddy try talking thru your mouth. MUNK apologized to me about your lies about me being banned from his Socialist Snake Pit Site. Yes I CAN log on there. But YOU CANNOT as you are so crook even MUNK can't stand you.

Bobby try addressing the TOPIC if you are able. And Reddy I know you cannot.


Perhaps Tim Pallas should be focusing on the huge Victorian Debt and billions of cost blow outs, rather than trying to play Federal Politics? You’re a State Treasurer that’s drowning in debt, just like the Cain / Kirner years.

Wasn’t it a Victorian government building that was observed flying the Chinese flag earlier this year?
Foreign affairs is the sole preserve of the federal government for a reason. Victoria signing up to the BRI is offensive and undermining of Australian sovereignty, naive in the extreme, and the very example of why foreign affairs should be left to the feds.

Perhaps it is simply that the state government of Victoria, the Chinese communist party and the Russians are merely(as often stated in the cold war) “fellow travellers”.

Ok, let’s look at this from a sovereign risk perspective. Is the Victorian State Government keeping a talley on its dependency on foreign importers, or has it relegated this to the Fed? If it had, it would have considered the strategic risk of its growing dependency on a single one-state nation and encouraged its rural and non-rural industries to diversify. If it had not done this, was the State asleep at the wheel or, was its eyes wide open, which would beg a very different question.

Frightening DEBT levels of the Commo Union and Greeny controlled State "Govts" of Qld and Victoria.

Looks like there will be a change of State "Govts" in Qld and Vic as Voters flush out the Socialist Curse.





Victorian Treasurer Tim Pallas ‘parroting Beijing’ on tariffs
RACHEL BAXENDALE 10:39PM MAY 19, 2020

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Victorian Treasurer Tim Pallas. Picture: AAP

A Victorian Liberal senator has accused the state’s Treasurer of “parroting foreign propaganda” and undermining Australia’s position on China.

Senator James Paterson’s comments come after Tim Pallas said China’s imposition of an 80 per cent tariff on Australian barley was a consequence “of the way that the federal government have conducted themselves”.

Mr Pallas’s comments follow his description last week of China’s decision to suspend meat imports from four abattoirs in NSW and Queensland as “inevitably a consequence of the use of language that I think has seemed to vilify China rather than to recognise that these are events that will need appropriate scrutiny and review in time”.

Senator Paterson said it was not the first time that the Victorian government had “undermined Australia” on these national policy issues”.

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Victorian Liberal Senator James Paterson.

“They sadly have form parroting foreign propaganda,” he said.

“It would be nice if, for a change, they took Australia’s side in a dispute.”

Earlier, Mr Pallas was asked for his views on Australia’s diplomacy with China, responding: “I think I’ve been pretty clear that I’m not a big fan of the way the federal government have managed the relationship with China more generally.”

“I think there are occasions when we do need to assert our independence, and I made it clear when I was asked should there be an inquiry into the pandemic, I took the view, yes, there should be, but I don’t think in the sense that we should be vilifying any particular nation,” he said.


“Every country will have to stand to account, their leadership will have to stand to account with how they reacted to the challenges that coronavirus actually presented to our respective economies and the welfare of our citizens.”

Asked whether he saw China’s tariffs as retaliation for Australia’s stance on an inquiry into the origins of COVID-19, Mr Pallas said: “Oh well I can’t hazard to speculate what goes on in the minds of leaders of other countries. All I can say is I don’t suppose it would come as a surprise to anybody that this was the consequences of the way that the federal government have conducted themselves.”

Asked what he made of China’s claims that the tariff is punishment for dumping of Australian barley and has nothing to do with a diplomatic stoush over COVID-19, Mr Pallas said: “Once again I suppose that really comes down to us speculating what’s going on”.


“I think we have to take China as a genuine and important trading partner,” he said.

“We have to deal with them with respect, and we have to be prepared, I think, to recognise that our systems and governments are very, very different.

“But if we start from a position of respect, if we also start position assignment something quite traumatic has happened in the world economy and in the world population, they are owed an explanation from every government about what they did and how they conducted themselves, and that includes China, but it also includes many other countries as well.”

Asked whether he shared federal Trade Minister Simon Birmingham’s concerns about the barley tariff, which will affect many Victorian barley growers, Mr Pallas said he was opposed to creating unnecessary barriers to trade.

“The more barriers we put up with regard to trade, the more damage it will do to the return of the economic wellbeing of the world economy, so I’m not a great fan of any country placing tariff barriers on importation of our products, and similarly, with the exception of critically identified industries, critical supply chain materials, I think the same should apply to us as a country,” he said.

“Taxes on the importation of commodities I think quite frankly don’t help.”

Victorian Opposition Leader Michael O'Brien said he was worried about Victorian farmers as a result of the barley tariff.

“Victorian barley is a huge export earner for this state,” Mr O'Brien said.

“Our farmers rely on it for income and for jobs.

“Daniel Andrews is supposed to be the premier with a special relationship with the Chinese communist government. He’s supposed to be the premier with the special Belt and Road deal with Beijing.

“Well, Premier, why isn’t your special relationship with China saving Victorian farmers? Why isn’t your special deal with China saving Victorian jobs, because our barley farmers are going to cop it in the neck as a result of these tariffs.”


https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation ... c7c7b588b5

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