Are we heading for war with China?

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Re: Are we heading for war with China?

Post by Bobby » Sat May 02, 2020 2:18 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 9:49 am
Here's the video ...


It forgets to mention that millions of people were allowed
to leave Wuhan and many flew around the world
spreading it to every country.

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Re: Are we heading for war with China?

Post by brian ross » Sat May 02, 2020 2:21 pm

Outlaw Yogi wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 1:13 pm
Are we heading for war with China?
Definitely!
Just after George Dubya's "Get Saddam" campaign the Pentagon admitted they were preparing for war with China.
Not too long after (around 2007 I think) the Australian army stated they expected to be in a war in South Asia within the next 15 years.
My guess it'll be China, Pakistan and North Korea + maybe Iran & parts of Africa Vs Just about every one else.
Don't know where Russia will stand, if at all.
That's what the technology theft and force transfer is about - Preparation for war.
Although China with no combat experienced troops would prefer to bluff their way to domination without a shot.
Lunacy. Sheer lunacy. You have lumped together nations which have long enmity towards one another. They wouldn't even agree on the time of day let alone to fight in a unified force with unified objectives. If you're going display a fantasy, at least make it a realistic one, please. :roll

As for American preparing for a war in Asia, it all depends on what you define as "Asia". Americans talk about the whole continent from the Bosphorus through to the Bering Strait and down to Indonesia. When Australians talk about "Asia" they mean really, east Asia - China, Vietnam, Myanmar and so on. They rare talk about what they loosely call the "Middle East". Perhaps it's cause they Persians and Arabs and Central Asians there?

As for the Australian Army, when haven't they fought in Asia in the last 80 years? :roll
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Re: Are we heading for war with China?

Post by billy the kid » Sat May 02, 2020 2:30 pm

The war mongering USA which has been involved in a war somewhere on the planet every year since the 1940s
will be convinced by their corrupt Washington politicians and bureaucrats that they have to continue the wars...
The USA has been paranoid against Russia...China...Iran...Iraq...etc...ever since the year dot.....
They have been "balkanizing" the Middle East for years....war is in their DNA....
Another war is almost a fait accompli....particularly with Trump at the helm.....
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Re: Are we heading for war with China?

Post by Bobby » Sat May 02, 2020 2:32 pm

brian ross wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 2:21 pm
Outlaw Yogi wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 1:13 pm
Are we heading for war with China?
Definitely!
Just after George Dubya's "Get Saddam" campaign the Pentagon admitted they were preparing for war with China.
Not too long after (around 2007 I think) the Australian army stated they expected to be in a war in South Asia within the next 15 years.
My guess it'll be China, Pakistan and North Korea + maybe Iran & parts of Africa Vs Just about every one else.
Don't know where Russia will stand, if at all.
That's what the technology theft and force transfer is about - Preparation for war.
Although China with no combat experienced troops would prefer to bluff their way to domination without a shot.
Lunacy. Sheer lunacy. You have lumped together nations which have long enmity towards one another. They wouldn't even agree on the time of day let alone to fight in a unified force with unified objectives. If you're going display a fantasy, at least make it a realistic one, please. :roll

As for American preparing for a war in Asia, it all depends on what you define as "Asia". Americans talk about the whole continent from the Bosphorus through to the Bering Strait and down to Indonesia. When Australians talk about "Asia" they mean really, east Asia - China, Vietnam, Myanmar and so on. They rare talk about what they loosely call the "Middle East". Perhaps it's cause they Persians and Arabs and Central Asians there?

As for the Australian Army, when haven't they fought in Asia in the last 80 years? :roll

Americans and Australians fought in Korea and Vietnam.

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Re: Are we heading for war with China?

Post by Black Orchid » Sat May 02, 2020 2:34 pm

Bobby wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 2:18 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 9:49 am
Here's the video ...


It forgets to mention that millions of people were allowed
to leave Wuhan and many flew around the world
spreading it to every country.
That's why it's called propaganda lol

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Re: Are we heading for war with China?

Post by Bobby » Sat May 02, 2020 3:20 pm

Bobby wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 2:18 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 9:49 am
Here's the video ...

It forgets to mention that millions of people were allowed
to leave Wuhan and many flew around the world
spreading it to every country.

Don't mention the real problem -
I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it. :lol:



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Re: Are we heading for war with China?

Post by The4thEstate » Sun May 03, 2020 2:17 pm

billy the kid wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 2:30 pm
The war mongering USA which has been involved in a war somewhere on the planet every year since the 1940s
will be convinced by their corrupt Washington politicians and bureaucrats that they have to continue the wars...
The USA has been paranoid against Russia...China...Iran...Iraq...etc...ever since the year dot.....
They have been "balkanizing" the Middle East for years....war is in their DNA....
Another war is almost a fait accompli....particularly with Trump at the helm.....
Actually, Trump has criticized the tendency of previous presidents to use American troops as "policemen of the world."
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... -the-world

He's less interventionist than his predecessors -- and when he takes military action, it's swift and decisive. Look at how fast U.S. troops obliterated ISIS after Obama's lengthy, half-hearted effort.

I really don't understand how it was "paranoid" to take a firm stand against nations like Russia. To the Eastern Europeans who spend decades behind the Iron Curtain, concern about the Russians (i.e., Soviets) was anything but paranoid.

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Re: Are we heading for war with China?

Post by billy the kid » Sun May 03, 2020 5:59 pm

The4thEstate wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 2:17 pm
billy the kid wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 2:30 pm
The war mongering USA which has been involved in a war somewhere on the planet every year since the 1940s
will be convinced by their corrupt Washington politicians and bureaucrats that they have to continue the wars...
The USA has been paranoid against Russia...China...Iran...Iraq...etc...ever since the year dot.....
They have been "balkanizing" the Middle East for years....war is in their DNA....
Another war is almost a fait accompli....particularly with Trump at the helm.....
Actually, Trump has criticized the tendency of previous presidents to use American troops as "policemen of the world."
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... -the-world

He's less interventionist than his predecessors -- and when he takes military action, it's swift and decisive. Look at how fast U.S. troops obliterated ISIS after Obama's lengthy, half-hearted effort.

I really don't understand how it was "paranoid" to take a firm stand against nations like Russia. To the Eastern Europeans who spend decades behind the Iron Curtain, concern about the Russians (i.e., Soviets) was anything but paranoid.
I feel the people of America have been conditioned for decades to be wary of other nations such as Russia.
I think its been ingrained for a long time by the bureaucrats that America must be one step ahead of its
enemies....whether they actually exist or not...all part of the plan to keep America at war...
As for Trump...well...let me know when he "brings the troops home"...
I notice you made no reference to the balkanizing of the Middle East...
Didn't Cheney talk about that...or was it Rumsfeldt….cant recall..I suppose, so long as Halliburton
continue to make money from Americas lust for numerous regime changes....
No..wait a second that wasn't Cheny or Rumsfeldt...that was General Clark....sorry...
https://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-goi ... -iran/5166
7 countries in 5 years...
That's what I call "swift and decisive..." :roll: :roll: :roll:
BTW..I don't think eastern Europe has anything to do with Americas paranoia..thats a bit of
a red herring ...don't you think.....
To discover those who rule over you, first discover those who you cannot criticize...Voltaire
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Re: Are we heading for war with China?

Post by billy the kid » Sun May 03, 2020 6:24 pm

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... xpand-asia
Trump criticizes previous Presidents for using American troops as "policemen of the world....yet
America...surprise surprise wants to "Police" the Spratly Islands...
Bit of hypocrisy there lads......
Can someone please tell me what right has the USA to antagonize China over the creation of the
Spratly Islands....
We all know that China is desirous of the gas and oil supplies in that region, and we all know
there is a dispute in the region...
BUT what has it got to do with the USA....
Maybe they want to "police" that region as well...
The last two paragraphs of the link had me in fits of laughter....
Maybe they should write that humour into a Seinfeld episode somewhere...
Can you imagine Kramer sprouting that out..... :rofl
Maybe we should call Wyatt Earp in to sort it out.....or Jesse James...
OR billy the kid.... :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Re: Are we heading for war with China?

Post by Black Orchid » Sun May 03, 2020 7:05 pm

Geez Billy what are we going to do when the Chinese take over the international trade route there? Send out our submarines? Maybe we'll be able to take out good through in a row boat.

It's a geo-political problem and I would think most Aussies would appreciate the assist because we will have the most to lose.

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