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Trump's latest antics

Post by brian ross » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:07 pm

Coronavirus: Trump threatens to cut off US funding to World Health Organisation. Must be "fake news". right? Or is this is latest dastardly plan to ignore COVID-19? :roll :roll
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Post by The4thEstate » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:02 pm

As usual, there's another side to the story:
https://www.jpost.com/international/nik ... ing-624376

Nikki Haley has criticized the World Health Organization (WHO) over their response to the coronavirus outbreak, accusing them of pandering to China instead of protecting the health of the global population.

Appearing on Fox News, former US ambassador to the United Nations Haley criticized the WHO for dragging its feet in the early stages of the crisis, despite having clear warnings from Taiwan that human-to-human transmission was a factor.

"Look at the timeline," she said. "You've got December 30th, Taiwan goes and tells the WHO: 'We believe and have evidence there is human to human transmission.' Then you have January 14th, the head of the WHO Tedros [Adhanom] says 'We don't see any evidence of human to human transmission.'

She continued: "Then you go a week later and they have an emergency meeting to decide if this is an international crisis. They don't make a decision on that day. Instead, Tedros travels to China to go meet with them. It is a week later when he comes back and says, they decide: 'OK, this could be an emergency, but you don't need to limit travel, and you don't need to limit trade.' Yet the President does it anyway and Tedros criticizes him for doing that. The American people have every right to ask the WHO questions."


One more bloated international bureaucracy that acts largely in its own self-interest. And Trump, unlike Obama, refuses to write big checks to international bureaucracies that act largely in their own self-interest. [See also "Paris climate agreement."]

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Post by brian ross » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:22 pm

Like Trump, Haley appears to not understand how the world operates and has information flows. WHO is not omniscient just as Trump isn't. Perhaps he should team up with his mate from Best Korea? They equally suffer from delusions, it seems. :rofl :roll
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Re: Trump's latest antics

Post by Redneck » Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:49 pm

Donny The Dickhead at it again

What a sook!


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... test-media

Trump claims 'total authority' and attacks media in chaotic coronavirus briefing
In a bizarre tirade, the president bristled at a suggestion by one of the media that his power was restricted

Donald Trump has declared in a White House briefing that his “authority is total” when it comes to lockdown rules during the coronavirus pandemic, and he denied that he was weighing firing Dr Anthony Fauci, the country’s foremost infectious diseases expert who sits on the coronavirus task force.

After a weekend reprieve from presidential briefings that have been likened to Trump rallies for their uninterrupted flow of Trumpian id, the president returned to the lectern on Monday to deliver one of his most bizarre performances yet.


He played a campaign video produced by White House staff, in a possible violation of elections laws, that he said highlighted the media’s downplaying of the coronavirus crisis in the early stages of the pandemic.

He jousted with journalists who questioned a tweet he had sent earlier in the day, in which he claimed to have fiat power to override orders by state governors to close nonessential businesses and public spaces and encourage residents to shelter at home.

And Trump bristled at the suggestion that his power was restricted by the American federalist construct, which grants autonomy to the 50 states, and which he has repeatedly during the coronavirus crisis attempted to disrupt.

“When somebody is the President of the United States, the authority is total,” Trump said, referring to matters of public health and police powers inside the states. The assertion was dogpiled by legal analysts as a gross and wild misreading of the Constitution.

But Trump not just challenged on the airwaves and on Twitter – he was challenged in the room, including by Paula Reid of CBS News, who asked him what his administration did in the month of February, when the health department declared an emergency, to fight the virus.

In response he attacked the media’s “approval rating”.

Then Trump was confronted by CNN White House correspondent Kaitlan Collins, who asked him about his “authority is total” line.


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“That is not true,” Collins said.

Trump spluttered in reply: “You know what we’re going to do? We’re going to write up papers on this. It’s not going to be necessary. Because the governors need us one way or the other. Because ultimately it comes with the federal government. That being said we’re getting along very well with the governors, and I feel very certain that there won’t be a problem.”

Has any governor agreed that you have the authority? Collins asked.

“I haven’t asked anybody. You know why? Because I don’t have to,” Trump said.

Who told you that the president has a total authority? Collins asked.

“Enough. Please,” said Trump.

The briefing briefly featured Fauci, who was attacked in a message retweeted by Trump on Sunday, fueling speculation that the president was preparing to push out the preeminent epidemiologist.

“I was immediately called upon that,” Trump said, “and I said, ‘No, I like him. I think he’s terrific.”

Asked whether there had been clashes between the pair, Trump said, “We have been from the beginning. I don’t mind controversy, I think controversy is a good thing, not a bad thing.”

But when he stepped to the lectern, Fauci stopped short of delivering the White House line that the country, and the economy, were on the verge of being reopened at full throttle.

“Some people may think it’s going to be like a light switch,” Fauci said. “It’s just not going to be that way.”

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Re: Trump's latest antics

Post by Black Orchid » Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:58 pm

You obviously didn't watch it. 8-)

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Post by Redneck » Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:03 pm

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Wounded by media scrutiny, Trump turned a briefing into a presidential tantrum
President lashed out at reporters, swiped at Biden and refused to accept that he had put a foot wrong in coronavirus response

A toddler threw a self-pitying tantrum on live television on Monday night. Unfortunately he was 73 years old, wearing a long red tie and running the world’s most powerful country.

Donald Trump, starved of campaign rallies, Mar-a-Lago weekends and golf, and goaded by a bombshell newspaper report, couldn’t take it any more. Years of accreted grievance and resentment towards the media came gushing out in a torrent. He ranted, he raved, he melted down and he blew up the internet with one of the most jaw-dropping performances of his presidency.

This was, as he likes to put it, “a 10”.

Trump’s Easter had evidently been ruined by a damning 5,500-word New York Times investigation showing that Trump squandered precious time in January and February as numerous government figures were sounding the alarm about the coronavirus.

With more than 23,000 American lives lost in such circumstances, some presidents might now be considering resignation. Not Trump. He arrived in the west wing briefing room determined to tell the world, or at least his base, that he was not to blame. Instead it was a new and bloody phase of his war against the “enemy of the people”: the media. Families grieving loved ones lost to the virus were in for cold comfort here.

A CNN chyron is a worth a thousand words: “Trump refuses to acknowledge any mistakes”; “Trump uses task force briefing to try and rewrite history on coronavirus response”; “Trump melts down in angry response to reports he ignored virus warnings”; “Angry Trump turns briefing into propaganda session”.


The thin-skinned president lashed out at reporters, swiped at Democrat Joe Biden and refused to accept that he had put a foot wrong. “So the story in the New York Times is a total fake, it’s a fake newspaper and they write fake stories. And someday, hopefully in five years when I’m not here, those papers are all going out of business because nobody’s going to read them,” Trump said.

With a dramatic flourish, the president ordered the briefing room lights dimmed. In a James Bond film, it would be the moment that poisoned gas is piped into the room. What happened wasn’t far off: a campaign-style montage of video clips, shown on screens set up behind the podium. There was footage of doctors saying in January that the coronavirus did not pose an imminent threat, Trump declaring a national emergency, and Democratic governors praising him for providing federal assistance.

Veteran White House reporters said they could never remember such a film being played in that room. It had been put together in a couple of hours by Dan Scavino, the director of social media at the White House, and a team in less than two hours, Trump explained. “We could give you hundreds of clips like that.”

Jon Karl of ABC News asked in consternation: “Why did you feel the need to do that?”

Trump replied: “Because we’re getting fake news and I like to have it corrected ... Everything we did was right.”

Over and over, Trump highlighted his decision to ban some flights from China in late January before there were any virus-related deaths confirmed in the US – even though nearly 400,000 people travelled to the US from China before the restrictions were in place and 40,000 people have arrived there since.

The CBS News correspondent Paula Reid was having none of it and cut to the chase. “The argument is that you bought yourself some time,” she said “You didn’t use it to prepare hospitals. You didn’t use it to ramp up testing. Right now, nearly 20m people are unemployed. Tens of thousands of Americans are dead.”

Trump talked over her: “You’re so disgraceful. It’s so disgraceful the way you say that.”


Reid demanded: “How is this newsreel or this rant supposed to make people feel confident in an unprecedented crisis?”

Trump reverted to his China travel restrictions but Reid continued to push him on his inaction in February. Trump was unable to muster a reasonable response. It was a case study in how, when he loses an argument, his instinct is to attack the accuser. He trotted out his frayed, timeworn insult: “You know you’re a fake, your whole network the way you cover it is fake ... That’s why you have a lower approval rating than probably you’ve ever had before times three.”

Democrats can only hope Biden was watching Reid for tips on how to debate the president.

Earlier, Dr Anthony Fauci stepped to the podium to clarify that he had been responding to a “hypothetical question” during an appearance on CNN’s State of the Union programme on Sunday when he said more could have been done to save American lives. He denied he was being forced to clarify against his will.

Trump, who had retweeted a post containing the hashtag “#FireFauci”, said: “Today I walk in, I hear I’m going to fire him. I’m not firing him, I think he’s a wonderful guy.”

The briefing went on for well over two hours. Even Fox News gave up before the end. Adam Schiff, the chair of the House intelligence committee, spoke for many when he tweeted: “Why do reputable news organizations carry these daily Trump press conferences live?

“They are filled with misinformation and propaganda. From the president himself, no less. The country would be far better served and informed if they used highlights later. Enough is enough.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -authority
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Re: Trump's latest antics

Post by Redneck » Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:05 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:58 pm
You obviously didn't watch it. 8-)
Didnt need to !

Check out this for all the various news responses

https://news.google.com/search?q=TRUMP& ... id=AU%3Aen

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Re: Trump's latest antics

Post by Black Orchid » Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:08 pm

Redneck wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:05 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:58 pm
You obviously didn't watch it. 8-)
Didnt need to !

Check out this for all the various news responses

https://news.google.com/search?q=TRUMP& ... id=AU%3Aen
I don't need to as I watched it live. Those media rabid dogs are absolute scum and couldn't give a damn about their fellow countrymen. They just wanted their rude and abusive gotcha moment. Disgusting display it was. One you would love.

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Re: Trump's latest antics

Post by Redneck » Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:11 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:08 pm
Redneck wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:05 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:58 pm
You obviously didn't watch it. 8-)
Didnt need to !

Check out this for all the various news responses

https://news.google.com/search?q=TRUMP& ... id=AU%3Aen
I don't need to as I watched it live. Those media rabid dogs are absolute scum and couldn't give a damn about their fellow countrymen. They just wanted their rude and abusive gotcha moment. Disgusting display it was. One you would love.
There was only one scumbag in the room and he had orange hair!

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

And I might add he is the one that doesnt care about his fellow countrymen, bloody disgrace!

How many Americans are dead and dying because of Trumps inaction?
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