All things Health (including Viruses like Covid)
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Bobby
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by Bobby » Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:05 pm
Bobby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:56 am
I don't understand why it will take such a long time to get a vaccine for Covid-19 ?
I've heard 1 year to 18 months.
Every year we get a vaccine available for up to 4 different types of flu.
We are told that it's the flu that was in the Northern hemisphere over their winter
which is often only 3 to 4 months from when we are inoculated.
So why is a Covid-19 vaccine going to take up to 5 times longer?
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:45 pm
You don't understand many things, do you, Bobby? The difference between a known virus and an unknown one is vast. Safety considerations alone mean you require a considerable amount of time between experimentation and general administration.
Brian,
I am not a virologist so I don't know.
Are you?
Is that another qualification you have?
Is it a PhD this time?
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:32 pm
Woolies and Coles are opening their stores to seniors this week between the hours of 7.00am and 8.00am. If you fit into this category it's probably wise to stock up. That's IF the stores have any stock.
I went to Coles today and there was barely any vegetables, meat, cereal etc that's on top of all the other things they just don't have.
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Bobby
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by Bobby » Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:51 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:32 pm
Woolies and Coles are opening their stores to seniors this week between the hours of 7.00am and 8.00am. If you fit into this category it's probably wise to stock up. That's IF the stores have any stock.
I went to Coles today and there was barely any vegetables, meat, cereal etc that's on top of all the other things they just don't have.
Woolies and Coles were stripped out yesterday where I live.
I ended up with a packet of corn chips and some biscuits.
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:25 pm
You need to find out when they get their deliveries and be there.
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Bobby
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by Bobby » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:26 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:25 pm
You need to find out when they get their deliveries and be there.
I asked and I was told that there is no scheduled time for any deliveries -
they happen at random.
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:41 pm
Bobby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:26 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:25 pm
You need to find out when they get their deliveries and be there.
I asked and I was told that there is no scheduled time for any deliveries -
they happen at random.
Rubbish. I've spoken to lots of stores and they always tell me and they always know. You need to be proactive.
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Bobby
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by Bobby » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:12 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:41 pm
Bobby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:26 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:25 pm
You need to find out when they get their deliveries and be there.
I asked and I was told that there is no scheduled time for any deliveries -
they happen at random.
Rubbish. I've spoken to lots of stores and they always tell me and they always know. You need to be proactive.
It's true - the trucks can arrive at any time and the shelves can be restocked at anytime.
I just got back from Coles -
I have never seen any supermarket like that in the world -
it's stripped out of even potatoes and just about everything else you'd want.
I am pissed off.
Only 3 people have died from the new virus -
but
when in a normal flu season 100s of people die from the flu virus yet
now there has been irrational panic over 3 deaths.
I have lost my faith in humanity - people are nothing more than animals -
similar to dogs fighting over a bone.
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:54 pm
Bobby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:05 pm
Bobby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:56 am
I don't understand why it will take such a long time to get a vaccine for Covid-19 ?
I've heard 1 year to 18 months.
Every year we get a vaccine available for up to 4 different types of flu.
We are told that it's the flu that was in the Northern hemisphere over their winter
which is often only 3 to 4 months from when we are inoculated.
So why is a Covid-19 vaccine going to take up to 5 times longer?
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:45 pm
You don't understand many things, do you, Bobby? The difference between a known virus and an unknown one is vast. Safety considerations alone mean you require a considerable amount of time between experimentation and general administration.
Brian,
I am not a virologist so I don't know.
Are you?
Is that another qualification you have?
Is it a PhD this time?
I've never claimed to be a Viralogist, Bobby. However, I have worked in a school of medical research and I have a general interest in research of all kinds. I have my ear and eyes open and I gather information from many sources. My sister is a Geneticist and we often have very interesting discussions on such topics. Unlike you, I am a broad generalist having worked in many different businesses/environments. I pick up information and I understand processes. I also don't parade my ignorance around like you do.
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair
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Bobby
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by Bobby » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:16 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:54 pm
Bobby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:05 pm
Bobby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:56 am
I don't understand why it will take such a long time to get a vaccine for Covid-19 ?
I've heard 1 year to 18 months.
Every year we get a vaccine available for up to 4 different types of flu.
We are told that it's the flu that was in the Northern hemisphere over their winter
which is often only 3 to 4 months from when we are inoculated.
So why is a Covid-19 vaccine going to take up to 5 times longer?
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:45 pm
You don't understand many things, do you, Bobby? The difference between a known virus and an unknown one is vast. Safety considerations alone mean you require a considerable amount of time between experimentation and general administration.
Brian,
I am not a virologist so I don't know.
Are you?
Is that another qualification you have?
Is it a PhD this time?
I've never claimed to be a Viralogist, Bobby. However, I have worked in a school of medical research and I have a general interest in research of all kinds. I have my ear and eyes open and I gather information from many sources. My sister is a Geneticist and we often have very interesting discussions on such topics. Unlike you, I am a broad generalist having worked in many different businesses/environments. I pick up information and I understand processes. I also don't parade my ignorance around like you do.
My specialties are in other areas of science.
I asked an innocent and relevant question - that's all.
All you've told us is that it isn't safe -
it doesn't take Einstein to tell us that -
that is something I would have guessed.
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:31 pm
Bobby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:56 am
I don't understand why it will take such a long time to get a vaccine for Covid-19 ?
I've heard 1 year to 18 months.
Every year we get a vaccine available for up to 4 different types of flu.
We are told that it's the flu that was in the Northern hemisphere over their winter
which is often only 3 to 4 months from when we are inoculated.
So why is a Covid-19 vaccine going to take up to 5 times longer?
A research team in Queensland say they are only 10 days away from using a vaccine on humans and in the US the first participant in a clinical trial for a vaccine to protect against the new coronavirus will receive an experimental dose on Monday.
So it's full steam ahead.
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