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brian ross
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by brian ross » Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:06 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:04 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:13 pm
Errr, Clinton won nearly 2.5 million more votes than than Trump. This is "fake news". Just bullshit put out by the Trumpites. Tsk, tsk. Of course you believe it without checking the facts.
It says that Brian maybe you should put your glasses on.
So they do. However, that level of support could not achieved without winning more counties than they claim.

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LearJet
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by LearJet » Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:23 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:06 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:04 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:13 pm
Errr, Clinton won nearly 2.5 million more votes than than Trump. This is "fake news". Just bullshit put out by the Trumpites. Tsk, tsk. Of course you believe it without checking the facts.
It says that Brian maybe you should put your glasses on.
So they do.
However, that level of support could not achieved without winning more counties than they claim.
Sir you need to travel from the Third World into the Real World. The USA is just a million or so square miles larger than Australia
United States is approximately 9,833,517 sq km, while Australia is approximately 7,741,220 sq km.
Meanwhile, the population of United States is 327 million people (303 million fewer people live in Australia).
2.5 million votes over an actual voting population of around 125 to 130 million (people who actually voted), give or take a million or so voters, could easily come from even
less than how many counties she actually got. From a sparsely populated country like Australia it is easy to understand how you might have difficulty comparing apples with pears.
See if you can digest the 2016 results, where they do simply break it down. Sorry to say, she still lost in the EC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Unit ... l_election
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:16 pm
Yes, she did lose in the Electoral College. Just goes to prove that the US is not a democratic country, now doesn't it? It has a gerrymanda against the most populous cities. Tsk, tsk.

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by Texan » Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:19 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:16 pm
Yes, she did lose in the Electoral College. Just goes to prove that the US is not a democratic country, now doesn't it? It has a gerrymanda against the most populous cities. Tsk, tsk.
Gerrymandered against shithole cities. Our founding fathers were very wise indeed.
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by brian ross » Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:22 pm
Texan wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:19 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:16 pm
Yes, she did lose in the Electoral College. Just goes to prove that the US is not a democratic country, now doesn't it? It has a gerrymanda against the most populous cities. Tsk, tsk.
Gerrymandered against shithole cities. Our founding fathers were very wise indeed.
Just because you don't live there, and they vote differently to you, doesn't automatically make the cities, "shitholes", Tex. You need to get along with your fellow Americans...
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by Black Orchid » Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:24 pm
Give it a rest. Like you get along with everyone Brian?

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by LearJet » Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:27 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:16 pm
Yes, she did lose in the Electoral College. Just goes to prove that the US is not a democratic country, now doesn't it? It has a gerrymanda against the most populous cities. Tsk, tsk.
The American Founding Fathers never intended that their newly Independent country be a Democracy. Many openly spoke against Democracy, and insisted that if America were to succeed the thought of Democratic Majority Rule must be avoided at all cost. That's why America was eventually founded as a Republic, a Constitutional Republic, based on Republican Principals, governed loosely on a few Democratic principals, not by majority rule, but by the rule of law contained in the US Constitution.
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by brian ross » Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:38 pm
LearJet wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:27 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:16 pm
Yes, she did lose in the Electoral College. Just goes to prove that the US is not a democratic country, now doesn't it? It has a gerrymanda against the most populous cities. Tsk, tsk.
The American Founding Fathers never intended that their newly Independent country be a Democracy. Many openly spoke against Democracy, and insisted that if America were to succeed the thought of Democratic Majority Rule must be avoided at all cost. That's why America was eventually founded as a Republic, a Constitutional Republic, based on Republican Principals, governed loosely on a few Democratic principals, not by majority rule, but by the rule of law contained in the US Constitution.
And yet numerous Americans loudly and incorrectly proclaim their country as the biggest (India out numerous times America and a democracy) and a democratic society. Appears they wrong, right? The founding fathers (why no mothers?) were talking about a pure democracy, like Ancient Greece. A republic just replaces the monarch with a President. Appears they just traded the (supposed) yoke for another and not well developed system.

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by Black Orchid » Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:47 pm
Where are these numerous Americans, Brian? Are they under your bed? Because I haven't heard any say that and I'm pretty sure they know better than you do.
You just make stuff up as you go.

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by brian ross » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:01 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:47 pm
Where are these numerous Americans, Brian? Are they under your bed? Because I haven't heard any say that and I'm pretty sure they know better than you do.
You just make stuff up as you go.
Just listen to what they say, Black Orchid. It might surprise you.

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