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Re: UN scared of globalism collapse

Post by The Reboot » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:46 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:20 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:20 pm
The UN is doing nothing for the rights of individuals. They are pushing for world wide socialism and want everyone to be equally miserable.
How about everybody pulls their weight and everybody is happy. Tex? Instead of accruing all that wealth to yourself and your nation, you share it out with others, Mmmm? :roll
How about you mind your own business and worry about your own backyard, and respect other nations' right to their sovereignty and "culture"? Tsk tsk. :roll:

Spoken like a true communist. A typical UN pansy-boy. :lol:

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Re: UN scared of globalism collapse

Post by The Reboot » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:46 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:41 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:20 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:20 pm
The UN is doing nothing for the rights of individuals. They are pushing for world wide socialism and want everyone to be equally miserable.
How about everybody pulls their weight and everybody is happy. Tex? Instead of accruing all that wealth to yourself and your nation, you share it out with others, Mmmm? :roll
I pay my taxes and you can keep your grubby mitts off my wealth. How about people stop feeling entitled to what others have worked for and get off their butts and learn to create their own wealth. There's a thought.
This too :lol:

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Re: UN scared of globalism collapse

Post by Texan » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:53 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:15 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:48 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:20 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:20 pm
The UN is doing nothing for the rights of individuals. They are pushing for world wide socialism and want everyone to be equally miserable.
How about everybody pulls their weight and everybody is happy. Tex? Instead of accruing all that wealth to yourself and your nation, you share it out with others, Mmmm? :roll
You nailed it. EVWRYBODY should pull their weight. If I earned it, I can do what I want with it. It works personally and it works nationally. Maybe you should work to accrue some wealth and quit inviting China and every "refugee" in the world in to exploit you.
So, we should just turn our backs on the Asylum Seekers who need a place of refuge, Tex? How kind of you. We aren't inviting anybody in (despite what our present Government may believe and what the Tories here state) to "exploit us". We expect them to pull their weight and make a living here, as refugees fleeing their old countries for their new. :roll
I'm saying the choice is yours to make. If you want to vet refugees or demand that they not weigh down your economy, that's your right. If you want to give your country to the rest of the world, that's your right as well.

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Re: UN scared of globalism collapse

Post by brian ross » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:36 pm

Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:53 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:15 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:48 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:20 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:20 pm
The UN is doing nothing for the rights of individuals. They are pushing for world wide socialism and want everyone to be equally miserable.
How about everybody pulls their weight and everybody is happy. Tex? Instead of accruing all that wealth to yourself and your nation, you share it out with others, Mmmm? :roll
You nailed it. EVWRYBODY should pull their weight. If I earned it, I can do what I want with it. It works personally and it works nationally. Maybe you should work to accrue some wealth and quit inviting China and every "refugee" in the world in to exploit you.
So, we should just turn our backs on the Asylum Seekers who need a place of refuge, Tex? How kind of you. We aren't inviting anybody in (despite what our present Government may believe and what the Tories here state) to "exploit us". We expect them to pull their weight and make a living here, as refugees fleeing their old countries for their new. :roll
I'm saying the choice is yours to make. If you want to vet refugees or demand that they not weigh down your economy, that's your right. If you want to give your country to the rest of the world, that's your right as well.
Under the UN Convention of Refugees, you aren't allowed to "vet" anybody before they make a claim for Asylum, Tex. :roll:
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Re: UN scared of globalism collapse

Post by Texan » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:51 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:36 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:53 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:15 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:48 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:20 pm


How about everybody pulls their weight and everybody is happy. Tex? Instead of accruing all that wealth to yourself and your nation, you share it out with others, Mmmm? :roll
You nailed it. EVWRYBODY should pull their weight. If I earned it, I can do what I want with it. It works personally and it works nationally. Maybe you should work to accrue some wealth and quit inviting China and every "refugee" in the world in to exploit you.
So, we should just turn our backs on the Asylum Seekers who need a place of refuge, Tex? How kind of you. We aren't inviting anybody in (despite what our present Government may believe and what the Tories here state) to "exploit us". We expect them to pull their weight and make a living here, as refugees fleeing their old countries for their new. :roll
I'm saying the choice is yours to make. If you want to vet refugees or demand that they not weigh down your economy, that's your right. If you want to give your country to the rest of the world, that's your right as well.
Under the UN Convention of Refugees, you aren't allowed to "vet" anybody before they make a claim for Asylum, Tex. :roll:
You can interview them and verify that they are political refugees before allowing them entry. You can isolate them from your public. We have thousands marching over our borders and only claim refugee status after they are caught. I wouldn't call them refugees as they didn't follow protocol.

I'm not a complete isolationist, but I do believe strongly in national sovereignty.

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Re: UN scared of globalism collapse

Post by brian ross » Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:01 pm

Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:51 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:36 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:53 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:15 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:48 pm


You nailed it. EVWRYBODY should pull their weight. If I earned it, I can do what I want with it. It works personally and it works nationally. Maybe you should work to accrue some wealth and quit inviting China and every "refugee" in the world in to exploit you.
So, we should just turn our backs on the Asylum Seekers who need a place of refuge, Tex? How kind of you. We aren't inviting anybody in (despite what our present Government may believe and what the Tories here state) to "exploit us". We expect them to pull their weight and make a living here, as refugees fleeing their old countries for their new. :roll
I'm saying the choice is yours to make. If you want to vet refugees or demand that they not weigh down your economy, that's your right. If you want to give your country to the rest of the world, that's your right as well.
Under the UN Convention of Refugees, you aren't allowed to "vet" anybody before they make a claim for Asylum, Tex. :roll:
You can interview them and verify that they are political refugees before allowing them entry. You can isolate them from your public. We have thousands marching over our borders and only claim refugee status after they are caught. I wouldn't call them refugees as they didn't follow protocol.

I'm not a complete isolationist, but I do believe strongly in national sovereignty.
Nothing wrong with that, Tex. You do however take it IMO sometimes to extreme - like many Americans I've encountered over the years. Yes, before accepting their application for Asylum you can make sure they are genuine refugees. My present Government doesn't care whether they are genuine or not - it is all about their mode of arrival. If they come by plane, they are acceptable. If they come by boat, well there is hell to pay with Tories screaming about their genuineness. Some people have strange ideas about refugees, blaming them for all the ills in the world.

Your country creates refugees. Did you realise that? Your country has engendered the circumstances that force people to flee their own societies because of the way your country dominates others. So, you shouldn't be too surprised that you have many thousands marching across your southern border the way they do. It is just your government's policies coming home to roost. :roll
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Re: UN scared of globalism collapse

Post by Valkie » Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:03 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:20 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:20 pm
The UN is doing nothing for the rights of individuals. They are pushing for world wide socialism and want everyone to be equally miserable.
How about everybody pulls their weight and everybody is happy. Tex? Instead of accruing all that wealth to yourself and your nation, you share it out with others, Mmmm? :roll
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Re: UN scared of globalism collapse

Post by Texan » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:55 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:01 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:51 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:36 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:53 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:15 pm


So, we should just turn our backs on the Asylum Seekers who need a place of refuge, Tex? How kind of you. We aren't inviting anybody in (despite what our present Government may believe and what the Tories here state) to "exploit us". We expect them to pull their weight and make a living here, as refugees fleeing their old countries for their new. :roll
I'm saying the choice is yours to make. If you want to vet refugees or demand that they not weigh down your economy, that's your right. If you want to give your country to the rest of the world, that's your right as well.
Under the UN Convention of Refugees, you aren't allowed to "vet" anybody before they make a claim for Asylum, Tex. :roll:
You can interview them and verify that they are political refugees before allowing them entry. You can isolate them from your public. We have thousands marching over our borders and only claim refugee status after they are caught. I wouldn't call them refugees as they didn't follow protocol.

I'm not a complete isolationist, but I do believe strongly in national sovereignty.
Nothing wrong with that, Tex. You do however take it IMO sometimes to extreme - like many Americans I've encountered over the years. Yes, before accepting their application for Asylum you can make sure they are genuine refugees. My present Government doesn't care whether they are genuine or not - it is all about their mode of arrival. If they come by plane, they are acceptable. If they come by boat, well there is hell to pay with Tories screaming about their genuineness. Some people have strange ideas about refugees, blaming them for all the ills in the world.

Your country creates refugees. Did you realise that? Your country has engendered the circumstances that force people to flee their own societies because of the way your country dominates others. So, you shouldn't be too surprised that you have many thousands marching across your southern border the way they do. It is just your government's policies coming home to roost. :roll
Its not my fault that people live under crap governments that deny their rights or sell their people out for profit. We deal with that enough here and aren't responsible for the rest of the world. Get your own governments in line and make them work for you. It's not easy but the benefits are great.

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Re: UN scared of globalism collapse

Post by The4thEstate » Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:26 am

brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:36 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:53 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:15 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:48 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:20 pm


How about everybody pulls their weight and everybody is happy. Tex? Instead of accruing all that wealth to yourself and your nation, you share it out with others, Mmmm? :roll
You nailed it. EVWRYBODY should pull their weight. If I earned it, I can do what I want with it. It works personally and it works nationally. Maybe you should work to accrue some wealth and quit inviting China and every "refugee" in the world in to exploit you.
So, we should just turn our backs on the Asylum Seekers who need a place of refuge, Tex? How kind of you. We aren't inviting anybody in (despite what our present Government may believe and what the Tories here state) to "exploit us". We expect them to pull their weight and make a living here, as refugees fleeing their old countries for their new. :roll
I'm saying the choice is yours to make. If you want to vet refugees or demand that they not weigh down your economy, that's your right. If you want to give your country to the rest of the world, that's your right as well.
Under the UN Convention of Refugees, you aren't allowed to "vet" anybody before they make a claim for Asylum, Tex. :roll:
And that, in a nutshell, is why globalism is collapsing all over the world.

The globalists believe Third World hordes have a right to cross sovereign borders, live for free on taxpayer-funded services, and move into stable, civilized neighborhoods -- regardless of their true motives, their ability to assimilate into the existing culture, and their effect on the local residents ... who generally don't even get a vote in the matter.

Does anybody think the average German would have supported taking in more than a million Muslims with largely unchecked backgrounds? And of course, the Merkels of the world feign shock when these "asylum seekers" assault women and girls on New Year's Eve and drive trucks through Christmas markets. Gee, who'd have guessed that members of a violent, exploitative, misogynistic culture would want to continue being violent, exploitative and misogynistic?

Ah, well ... fittingly, the globalists and their bureaucratic institutions are imploding from their own arrogance and stupidity. Their open-door immigration policies were their undoing, because nothing is more precious to the average working man and woman than home and family.

As for successful Western nations' obligation toward refugees: We have none. We may help them in their own countries if we so choose. But a national leader's first responsibility is to the safety and prosperity of his own citizens, just as a parent's first responsibility is to the safety and prosperity of his/her own family.

And if refugees want freedom, they can start their own revolution. We did.

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Re: UN scared of globalism collapse

Post by The Reboot » Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:02 pm

The4thEstate wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:26 am
brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:36 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:53 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:15 pm
Texan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:48 pm


You nailed it. EVWRYBODY should pull their weight. If I earned it, I can do what I want with it. It works personally and it works nationally. Maybe you should work to accrue some wealth and quit inviting China and every "refugee" in the world in to exploit you.
So, we should just turn our backs on the Asylum Seekers who need a place of refuge, Tex? How kind of you. We aren't inviting anybody in (despite what our present Government may believe and what the Tories here state) to "exploit us". We expect them to pull their weight and make a living here, as refugees fleeing their old countries for their new. :roll
I'm saying the choice is yours to make. If you want to vet refugees or demand that they not weigh down your economy, that's your right. If you want to give your country to the rest of the world, that's your right as well.
Under the UN Convention of Refugees, you aren't allowed to "vet" anybody before they make a claim for Asylum, Tex. :roll:
And that, in a nutshell, is why globalism is collapsing all over the world.

The globalists believe Third World hordes have a right to cross sovereign borders, live for free on taxpayer-funded services, and move into stable, civilized neighborhoods -- regardless of their true motives, their ability to assimilate into the existing culture, and their effect on the local residents ... who generally don't even get a vote in the matter.

Does anybody think the average German would have supported taking in more than a million Muslims with largely unchecked backgrounds? And of course, the Merkels of the world feign shock when these "asylum seekers" assault women and girls on New Year's Eve and drive trucks through Christmas markets. Gee, who'd have guessed that members of a violent, exploitative, misogynistic culture would want to continue being violent, exploitative and misogynistic?

Ah, well ... fittingly, the globalists and their bureaucratic institutions are imploding from their own arrogance and stupidity. Their open-door immigration policies were their undoing, because nothing is more precious to the average working man and woman than home and family.

As for successful Western nations' obligation toward refugees: We have none. We may help them in their own countries if we so choose. But a national leader's first responsibility is to the safety and prosperity of his own citizens, just as a parent's first responsibility is to the safety and prosperity of his/her own family.

And if refugees want freedom, they can start their own revolution. We did.
4E! Long time no see. Good to see your posts again :beer

In our western "first world" countries, we have a lot of citizens who are homeless and impoverished. In my view, we should be putting our respective countries first, before we worry about the rest of the world, and opening the door refugees. When a horde of refugees comes into the country, the resources that governments have are spread thinly. This lessens the chance of our own people receiving help.

I once attended an "indigenous mental health course" for my job two years ago. :roll: I have... let's say, unconventional opinions about the Aboriginals. At least on the political stage. The lecturer was a bit of a racist and kept crapping on about Aboriginal oppression and the like, and how bad whites are. Myself and three other people were the only whites in the room. But anyway, a young Aboriginal fellow raised a very good point which I cannot help but agree with.

"Why is it that the Government falls over themselves sending funds to other countries and accepting refugees, yet our communities in the desert get shut down and we can't even get access to fresh water."

Even the Aboriginals, our nation's first people, dip out in favour of foreign invaders and refugees!

In a nutshell, I believe a nation is responsible for itself before anybody else. I don't even agree with sending funds to third world countries. What help did Australia get from anywhere else amidst the bushfire crisis?

Of course, our American allies came to help. Yet America continuously gets shunned by leftwingers. Funny that. :roll:

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