The Death Penalty should be reintroduced.

[Juliar]

As usual Greeny BRossy sits back in the armchair and keeps well clear of the real issue which he doesn't understand.

It works in the Middle East as there crims don't re-offend.

A crim kills someone because he/she thinks they will get away with it even though they know they will swing if caught.

The cost to the taxpayer of keeping crims alive is enormous and serves no purpose whatsoever.

Most crims re-offend if released.

Accidental death is a different issue where investigation is required. eg building accident, car crash, medical mal-practice, etc

[Juliar]

Murderers are sending the country broke!!!!




Skewed Priorities – Comparing The Growth Of Prison Spending With Police Spending
Andrew Bushnell 19 November 2019 PUBLICATIONS, Media Releases, Research Papers, IPA TODAY, Criminal Justice


The end of the line for the baddies!!!!

Over the past decade, Australia has seen an unsustainable rise in the rate and cost of incarceration. Nationally, the incarceration rate is at an all-time high of 217 per 100,000 adults, and prisons now cost taxpayers $4.6 billion every year (including capital costs).

This increase in spending on prisons creates a trade-off with other government priorities, like policing. Six years ago Australian governments spent more than $4 dollars on police for every $1 spent on prisons; today, that figure is $3.40. This pattern is seen in every Australian jurisdiction apart from the Northern Territory. This matters because, like incarceration, policing aims to deter would-be offenders. Indeed, many studies indicate that it performs this task more effectively than prison, because offenders are deterred more strongly by the prospect of being caught than the severity of the punishments that they may face.

International figures show that by the measure of police spending to prison spending, Australian jurisdictions rank in between American states, which tend to spend more on prisons, and the countries of the European Union, which tend to spend less. Australia is moving towards a more American-style distribution, even as the US moves in the opposite direction.

Moreover, high rates of incarceration eventually create trade-offs for other areas of government service delivery. In jurisdictions like Western Australia and the Northern Territory, there are noticeably lower ratios between spending on schools and public hospitals and spending on prisons. Given that education and health are both associated with reduced offending, this trade-off may again be reducing community safety.

Australian jurisdictions can improve community safety by pursuing sensible and safe reforms to reduce incarceration, and redirecting spending to more efficient deterrence and rehabilitation.

https://ipa.org.au/publications-ipa/res ... e-spending

[Texan]

As long as the bar of proof is set high and the appeals are limited, I have no problem with the death penalty. Public executions should act as a deterrent to others considering a life of crime. (late night when young children are most likely in bed) I would reserve the death penalty for murder and treason during wartime.

1. The criminal will never again harm another person.

2. With limited appeals, the legal cost won't rival a lifetime of incarceration and the tax payers will save money.

I'd add serial paedophiles to that list and if the evidence is irrefutable, with the advancement of DNA and other technologies, I see no reason for them to be held for 20 years making appeal after appeal at the taxpayers' expense.

And I wouldn't argue with you over it. I have no patience for rapists.

[Bogan]

Briney wrote

Punishment is vastly over rated, Bogan. Coming from Sydney you'd appreciate that...

I have no idea what you are IMPLYING with that statement, Briney. Although I suspect that you don't either. As I have repeatedly asked you. Talk plainly. Don't talk in implications, so that you can claim I am misrepresenting you if I get your implication wrong.

Briney wrote

Oh, goody some facts for a change.

Norway - OK
Holland - OK
Denmark - OK
Belgium - OK

So, all four allowed capital punishment after WWII. So, for a change we have reality, not fantasies. Why did they resort to capital punishment? Gee, obviously they wanted revenge for the crimes committed.

And your point was?

Briney wrote

Well, you are wrong, Bogan. I do not "actively engage" in anything, I am a firm believe in western democratic free markets.

That's like Adolph Hitler saying that he is concerned with Jewish welfare. Brian, for 15 years you have advocated socialism and even claimed that the reason it had failed everywhere was because "it has not been tried yet." now you are claiming that you believe in western democratic free markets? Well, that goes into your "clangers" file because I know that sooner of later, you are going to contradict yourself.

There. It is done. I stuck that statement in your "clangers" file and even dated it.

Briney wrote

Of course my definition of those things have nothing to do with the social construct of "race". Speaking of which, interesting Science Show this arvo on Radio National. You should listen to it. It might clear up a few of your fantasies.

Write up a synopsis. I could do with a laugh.

Briney wrote

As for the actions of Iran, I understood those people and their targets, the Saudis were tinted people, Bogan. I thought you'd be glad that they are killing on another?

As a matter of fact, I am. But I regard the Iranian mullahs as more of a threat to world peace than the Saudi royal family.

Briney wrote

Others might get upset with you flying a Nazi flag though. Considered the Jews in your actions?

I have no intention of flying a National Socialist flag because I am a democrat, not a socialist. But if somebody wants to fly a national socialist flag then that is their right under western freedom of political expression. i am sure you would disagree, but then you would have to justify why you would discriminate against one group of people over a symbol of their cultural values, but support another group of people who's females wear an item of clothing denoting allegiance to cultural values the polar opposite of the western world they choose to live in.

Briney wrote

Well, that is part of "no flag". I don't have a flag pole nor do I really feel like rising at daybreak to erect a flag and pulling it down at dusk. Of course you wouldn't understand the rules WRT to protocol, would you?

Yes I do. I have two Australian flags and I am intensely proud of both of them.

[Juliar]

The Greeny BRossy and the Bogie Man are have another fireside chat about nothing really as neither of them really understands the topic and they both avoid actually discussing anything that is happening and relevant today. They just make it up as they go.