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Re: Iranian protest against Islamic regime

Post by Baronvonrort » Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:33 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:28 pm
I've read lots of Twitter posts coming directly out of Iran and they were all ecstatic that Soleimani is dead. Some also said that the massive crowd at the funeral looked a lot larger than it should have because the streets were blocked off and everyone was forced into that one area. Deception at its finest to feed propaganda to the left.
I have heard the same thing about streets being blocked off to funnel everyone in to make it look better for propaganda. All government workers had to attend there was even free food and drinks. A source I have puts the number killed in the stampede at 78.

The leftists lap up Islamic propaganda hook line and sinker.

My Iranian friends point out 79 million Iranians did not attend the funeral for Soleimani. Be nice if the media reported more on these protests perhaps they're too tired from giving eulogies to Soleimani.

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Re: Iranian protest against Islamic regime

Post by Baronvonrort » Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:55 pm

Gordon wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:24 pm
It really beggars belief that the left aren't happy with the outcome.

Sure the legality to take out Qassem Soleimani was a bit iffy as is a lot of USAs drone work, but Qassem Soleimani was THE GUY who was shooting the Iranian protesters on the street.

The left really have lost their way.
Soleimani was subjected to a UN resolution preventing him from leaving Iran.

Perhaps we could use this hashtag for the leftists who support the Ayatollahs

#Mullahfucker

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Re: Iranian protest against Islamic regime

Post by Gordon » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:05 pm

The funny thing is, this has just played out so well so far.

Taking out Quasem Solaimani was a good move for what he's done outside Iran but a great one for the Iranian people.
I wonder how the USA thought killing QS would play out in Iran because they couldn't have predicted it would go this well.

The 176 lives lost on that flight can be called martyres who have saved the lives of countless protesters because if not for their deaths, the eyes of the world would not be looking so closely at how the regime handles the protests.

I don't think this will bring down the regime but hopefully it takes a lot of power away from the clerics.

And fuck the democrats for not being 100% behind the Iranian people.

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Re: Iranian protest against Islamic regime

Post by Black Orchid » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:24 pm

Some Democrats are even saying that Soleimani was on a peace mission. :b

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Re: Iranian protest against Islamic regime

Post by Gordon » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:35 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:24 pm
Some Democrats are even saying that Soleimani was on a peace mission. :b
Prior to the killing Even Lebanese and Iraqis were calling for Iran to piss off out of their politics.

If not for Iran supplying Hamas with rockets and funding the extremists Israel and Palestine relations would be in a much better place.

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Re: Iranian protest against Islamic regime

Post by Black Orchid » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:46 pm

Let's not forget that Obama gave Iran $1.7 billion in CASH which they more than likely used to buy missiles to bomb Americans.

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Re: Iranian protest against Islamic regime

Post by brian ross » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:55 pm

Gordon wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:24 pm
It really beggars belief that the left aren't happy with the outcome.

Sure the legality to take out Qassem Soleimani was a bit iffy as is a lot of USAs drone work, but Qassem Soleimani was THE GUY who was shooting the Iranian protesters on the street.

The left really have lost their way.
No, it is the Right that lost it's way, a long, long, time ago.

The world is about more than just "outcomes", Gordon. It is also about process. The Right and occasionally the Left as well, loses sight of that. People might not like the process by which certain processes are arrived at.

As an example, many anti-Semites would like for the Holocaust to be successful. They wouldn't care how it was achieved, the exciting idea for them is that it was achieved. A world without Jews. To most people the idea of murdering all the Jews is appalling. Yet to the anti-Semites it matters not a naught. To most Islamophobes it doesn't matter that Soleimani was murdered. Many other people it does.

That I need to explain that to you is also appalling, Gordon. You need your moral compass realigned.
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Re: Iranian protest against Islamic regime

Post by Baronvonrort » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:20 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:24 pm
Some Democrats are even saying that Soleimani was on a peace mission. :b
Pelosi and the democrats have proven themselves to be totally ignorant to what is going on.

When the US embassy was attacked the Iraqi protestors distanced themselves from that and pointed the finger at Iran.

What was Soleimani doing in Iraq when there was a UN resolution saying he couldn't leave Iran?
Protests in Iraq and Lebanon pose a challenge to Iran
October 30, 2019

BAGHDAD (AP) — The day after anti-government protests erupted in Iraq, Iranian Gen. Qassim Soleimani flew into Baghdad late at night and took a helicopter to the heavily fortified Green Zone, where he surprised a group of top security officials by chairing a meeting in place of the prime minister.

The arrival of Soleimani, the head of Iran’s elite Quds Force and the architect of its regional security apparatus, signaled Tehran’s concern over the protests, which had erupted across the capital and in Iraq’s Shiite heartland, and included calls for Iran to stop meddling in the country.

“We in Iran know how to deal with protests,” Soleimani told the Iraqi officials, according to two senior officials familiar with the meeting who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the secret gathering. “This happened in Iran and we got it under control.”

The day after Soleimani’s visit, the clashes between the protesters and security forces in Iraq became far more violent, with the death toll soaring past 100 as unidentified snipers shot demonstrators in the head and chest. Nearly 150 protesters were killed in less than a week.

During renewed protests this week, men in black plainclothes and masks stood in front of Iraqi soldiers, facing off with protesters and firing tear gas. Residents said they did not know who they were, with some speculating they were Iranians.

“Iran is afraid of these demonstrations because it has made the most gains in the government and parliament through parties close to it” since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, said Hisham al-Hashimi, an Iraqi security analyst. “Iran does not want to lose these gains. So it has tried to work through its parties to contain the protests in a very Iranian way.”

In southern Iraq, protesters have attacked and torched the offices of political parties and government-backed militias allied with Iran.
In a country that is OPEC’s second-largest oil producer, impoverished residents complain that powerful Shiite militias tied to Iran have built economic empires, taking control of state reconstruction projects and branching into illicit business activities.

“All the parties and factions are corrupt, and this is connected to Iran, because it’s using them to try and export its system of clerical rule to Iraq,” said Ali al-Araqi, a 35-year-old protester from the southern town of Nasiriyah, which has seen especially violent clashes between protesters and security forces.

“The people are against this, and that is why you are seeing an uprising against Iran,” he said.

Overnight Tuesday, masked men who appeared to be linked to Iraq’s security forces opened fire on protesters in Karbala, a holy city associated with the martyrdom of one of the most revered figures in Shiite Islam. At least 18 protesters were killed and hundreds were wounded in bloodshed that could mark an ominous turning point in the demonstrations. In Baghdad, protesters burned an Iranian flag. Days earlier, protesters had gathered outside the Iranian Consulate in Karbala, chanting “Iran, out, out!”

More here- https://apnews.com/62642940e3fe4b1b87323decc9487fea
The Iraqi protestors have reasonable demands I like 10. The Iraqis didn't want the mad mullahs to have any influence in Iraq.

That article was published before most leftists knew who Soleimani was.
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Re: Iranian protest against Islamic regime

Post by Black Orchid » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:45 pm

Wrong thread but while we are on Pelosi ...
Pelosi said today:
– Trump won't be president next year "one way or another"
– Dems may "have him removed sooner" than the election
– Trump "will be impeached forever"

It's clear: Impeachment was a Democrat hit job to stain Trump’s legacy and hurt him at the polls. Nothing more.
Video in the link.

https://flagandcross.com/pelosi-on-live ... her-video/

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Re: Iranian protest against Islamic regime

Post by Bogan » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:22 am

Briney wrote

The world is about more than just "outcomes", Gordon. It is also about process. The Right and occasionally the Left as well, loses sight of that. People might not like the process by which certain processes are arrived at.
Watch out, Gordon. Brian Ross is about to subject you to his appalling hypocrisy, double standards, and contradictions. He is claiming that "outcomes" are not important but "processes" are. Sounds like he is pushing a legalistic argument knowing full well that the sort of totalitarian government that Brian prefers can always control the "processes."
Briney wrote


As an example, many anti-Semites would like for the Holocaust to be successful. They wouldn't care how it was achieved, the exciting idea for them is that it was achieved. A world without Jews. To most people the idea of murdering all the Jews is appalling. Yet to the anti-Semites it matters not a naught. To most Islamophobes it doesn't matter that Soleimani was murdered. Many other people it does.
Another example could be flying a Nazi flag. International socialists want a world without national socialists so that they can remove any trace of their ideological opponents and socialist heretics. So even though under a democracy "the process" is that we are supposed to have free political expression, (Brian only recently harrumphed over Menzies attempt to outlaw the Communist Party of Australia) , suddenly "the process" means nothing to Brian if he could ban the Nazi party and it's symbols.

Brian Ross wrote

That I need to explain that to you is also appalling, Gordon. You need your moral compass realigned.
The only one who needs his moral compass aligned, is you Briney. Until you figure out that you can not apply different standards to different groups of people and then claim that you are for "equality" and "non discrimination", you will continue to be a big fat target to anybody who can see right through your appalling hypocrisy.

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