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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner

Post by Black Orchid » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:53 pm

I didn't say there weren't pensioners in the RFS. I said they wouldn't be on the front lines from anywhere from 10 days to 2 months. There are many positions in the RFS ...

Firefighting
Administration
Communications
Catering
Community Education
Community Engagement
Training
Operational Logistics Support
Welfare Support
Equipment Maintenance
Youth Development

I am sure pensioners do occupy some of these positions but I don't believe they would have been front line fire fighting and the compensation package is for those on the front line, as it should be imo.

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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner

Post by billy the kid » Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:04 pm

Someone correct me if Im wrong...
I thought scumo's package was from 1.1.2020..
Is it retrospective....I must have missed that part...
What happens if you only do 9 days straight...do you get paid if you have a day or two off for injury or whatever....
What type of injury must you suffer to stop from being involved for ten days straight....
Besides you only get paid $300 per day from the eleventh day...not from day one.....
This package should be recognized for what it really is....
An opportunity for a politician to gain some votes.....
You know the old political saying...never let a tragedy go to waste.....
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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner

Post by Redneck » Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:17 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:53 pm
I didn't say there weren't pensioners in the RFS. I said they wouldn't be on the front lines from anywhere from 10 days to 2 months. There are many positions in the RFS ...

Firefighting
Administration
Communications
Catering
Community Education
Community Engagement
Training
Operational Logistics Support
Welfare Support
Equipment Maintenance
Youth Development

I am sure pensioners do occupy some of these positions but I don't believe they would have been front line fire fighting and the compensation package is for those on the front line, as it should be imo.
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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner

Post by Redneck » Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:22 pm

billy the kid wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:04 pm
Someone correct me if Im wrong...
I thought scumo's package was from 1.1.2020..
Is it retrospective....I must have missed that part...
What happens if you only do 9 days straight...do you get paid if you have a day or two off for injury or whatever....
What type of injury must you suffer to stop from being involved for ten days straight....
Besides you only get paid $300 per day from the eleventh day...not from day one.....
This package should be recognized for what it really is....
An opportunity for a politician to gain some votes.....
You know the old political saying...never let a tragedy go to waste.....
It applies from this financial year dont know any other details of how long etc to be included

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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner

Post by Black Orchid » Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:44 pm

Redneck wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:17 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:53 pm
I didn't say there weren't pensioners in the RFS. I said they wouldn't be on the front lines from anywhere from 10 days to 2 months. There are many positions in the RFS ...

Firefighting
Administration
Communications
Catering
Community Education
Community Engagement
Training
Operational Logistics Support
Welfare Support
Equipment Maintenance
Youth Development

I am sure pensioners do occupy some of these positions but I don't believe they would have been front line fire fighting and the compensation package is for those on the front line, as it should be imo.
What does that prove, Red? He's not one bit dirty. He could be in catering, communications etc. He doesn't look like he is on the front line fighting out of control fires.

I have never disputed older people aren't a part of the RFS but the compensation package is for those on the front line fighting fires for 10 days or more. Everyone in the area has to wear that gear including the media.

Everyone can't get paid. If they did we would never have anymore 'volunteers'. If I was a tea lady out there I wouldn't expect to be compensated. There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner

Post by The Reboot » Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:29 pm

Juliar wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:10 pm
Oh isn't our ScoMo such a wonderful caring great man as he bestows largesse on our fire fighting heroes ?

ScoMo sure knows how to make every post a winner. While Anal snarls as his FAKE FOTO shoot exploiting the fire fighters falls flat in great shame.





PM Scott Morrison okays payments for NSW volunteer firefighters
Jade Macmillan 11:36am, Dec 29, 2019 Updated: 3h ago

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Volunteers in NSW will be up for payments of as much as $6000. Photo: Getty

Volunteer firefighters in New South Wales will be able to apply for up to $6,000 in compensation from the Federal Government, Prime Minister Scott Morrison has announced.

But Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese said volunteer firefighters from all states should be able to access financial compensation for their efforts, not just those from New South Wales.

Mr Morrison said the money would be made available to NSW Rural Fire Service (RFS) volunteers who are self-employed or working for small or medium-sized businesses and who had been called out for more than 10 days this fire season.

The payments of up to $300 per person, per day — up to $6,000 in total — will be tax-free and not means-tested.

“While I know RFS volunteers don’t seek payment for their service, I don’t want to see volunteers or their families unable to pay bills or struggle financially as a result of the selfless contribution they are making,” Mr Morrison said in a statement.

“This is not about paying volunteers. It is about sustaining our volunteer efforts by protecting them from financial loss.”
Mr Morrison said other states and territories could request a similar scheme based on their level of need.


Opposition leader Anthony Albanese wonders why only NSW volunteers? But Mr Albanese argued firefighters outside NSW needed extra support now. Mr Albanese said volunteer firefighters across the country needed compensation.

“What about the South Australians and Victorians who’ve given up more than 10 days travelling across at their own expense into New South Wales to fight fires, travelling to Queensland?” he said.

“This has been an issue that was raised with me across the country.”

Queensland’s Rural Fire Brigades Association general manager, Justin Choveaux, said Mr Morrison’s announcement would start a conversation for Queensland and urged the State Government to act now.

“We’d encourage the [Queensland] Government to get on to the Federal Government ASAP and also get on to the volunteer representative organisations in Queensland and say, ‘How are we going to make this work for the benefit of the people who defend the state for free’,” he said.

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Volunteer fighters give their time, their sweat and sometimes their lives to protect their communities. Photo: AAP

The Government has come under increasing pressure, including from within its own ranks, to compensate volunteers as devastating bushfires continue to burn.

Mr Morrison has previously said he had not received any requests from fire chiefs for volunteers to be paid but last week announced those who were also Commonwealth employees would receive an additional four weeks’ leave to fight the fires.

“This announcement provides employees of small and medium-sized businesses and self-employed volunteers with the same level of support,” Mr Morrison said.

“We expect larger companies to provide their employees with 20 days of emergency services leave.”

The Federal Government payments will be administered by New South Wales and are expected to be made available before the end of January.

Volunteer Fire Fighters Association president Mick Holton praised the Prime Minister’s announcement.

He said some members spent their own money on expenses, including petrol spent driving to fire fronts and crowd funding for smoke masks.

“This payment is no different to any other worker making an out-of-pocket-expense claim for their employment,” Mr Holton said.

“It’s a step in the right direction — people will be rejoicing.”

But he conceded there was concern compensation may attract the wrong types of volunteers.

“Sometimes when we have major fires we get people coming out of the woodwork. Many have skills and are worthwhile participants. Others maybe not so.”
This should have been on the cards the moment this catastrophe started, not after he was caught sun-tanning by the beach drinking pina coladas. :roll:

The fuckwit needs to be shot, plain and simple, or at the very least sacked.

Take the straw out of ScoMo's arse hole, Juliar. It's not healthy. :lol:

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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner

Post by Juliar » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:43 am

The only catch is that fires are a STATE responsibility. So ScoMo can only suggest to the States.

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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner

Post by Redneck » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:52 am

Black Orchid wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:44 pm
Redneck wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:17 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:53 pm
I didn't say there weren't pensioners in the RFS. I said they wouldn't be on the front lines from anywhere from 10 days to 2 months. There are many positions in the RFS ...

Firefighting
Administration
Communications
Catering
Community Education
Community Engagement
Training
Operational Logistics Support
Welfare Support
Equipment Maintenance
Youth Development

I am sure pensioners do occupy some of these positions but I don't believe they would have been front line fire fighting and the compensation package is for those on the front line, as it should be imo.


What does that prove, Red? He's not one bit dirty. He could be in catering, communications etc. He doesn't look like he is on the front line fighting out of control fires.

I have never disputed older people aren't a part of the RFS but the compensation package is for those on the front line fighting fires for 10 days or more. Everyone in the area has to wear that gear including the media.

Everyone can't get paid. If they did we would never have anymore 'volunteers'. If I was a tea lady out there I wouldn't expect to be compensated. There has to be a line drawn somewhere.
Well you prove they are not on the frontline including firefighting, but also maybe on lots of support positions at the frontline

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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner

Post by Juliar » Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:38 pm

You can tell Reddy is after a handout!!!

The Lefties' Lament
Give us a handout
'Give us a handout
Come on ScoMo
Give us a handout again.

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Re: ScoMo rewards the heroic fire fighters in a big votes winner

Post by Redneck » Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:20 pm

Juliar wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:38 pm
You can tell Reddy is after a handout!!!

The Lefties' Lament
Give us a handout
'Give us a handout
Come on ScoMo
Give us a handout again.
No I am too old for any of that being in mid seventies, but I know guys in their mid to high sixties that are as fit as mallee bulls and could work on the fire front!

Not to mention working on the fire front in logistics, driving fire trucks and water tankers etc.

I think BO is talking through her hat!

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