Peter Dutton appears with AFP in political ad on airport security

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Re: Peter Dutton appears with AFP in political ad on airport security

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:55 pm

Religion of peace didn't you know? :lol:

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Re: Peter Dutton appears with AFP in political ad on airport security

Post by brian ross » Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:10 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:55 pm
Religion of peace didn't you know? :lol:
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Obviously you are unable or unwilling to dispute Islamic theocracy, are you, Black Orchid? :roll
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Re: Peter Dutton appears with AFP in political ad on airport security

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:41 pm

brian ross wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:10 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:55 pm
Religion of peace didn't you know? :lol:
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Obviously you are unable or unwilling to dispute Islamic theocracy, are you, Black Orchid? :roll
Brian if you want to argue that Islam is a religion of peace, knock yourself out. I am certainly unwilling to indulge your fantasy.

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Re: Peter Dutton appears with AFP in political ad on airport security

Post by brian ross » Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:37 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:41 pm
brian ross wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:10 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:55 pm
Religion of peace didn't you know? :lol:
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Obviously you are unable or unwilling to dispute Islamic theocracy, are you, Black Orchid? :roll
Brian if you want to argue that Islam is a religion of peace, knock yourself out. I am certainly unwilling to indulge your fantasy.
How about instead we compare it to Christianity? Christianity has ~2000 years of warfare behind it, Black Orchid. Where is your criticism of that history, mmm? :roll
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Re: Peter Dutton appears with AFP in political ad on airport security

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:43 pm

How about you try to stick to the topic? :thumb

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Post by brian ross » Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:47 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:43 pm
How about you try to stick to the topic? :thumb
Who introduced the notion of Islam promoting Terrorism? Bogan.
Who introduced the comment, "the nation of peace"? You.

Black Orchid, when you broaden your criticism to those who introduce these attempts to divert the topic, you might have a point. Until then? :roll
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Re: Peter Dutton appears with AFP in political ad on airport security

Post by Bogan » Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:38 pm

Quran 8.12 Your Lord inspires the angels with the message, "I will terrorise the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and each of their fingers and toes.

Quran 8:12: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." [A
Qur'an: 3.151

Qur'an: 3.151 Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers!

Quran 9:123: "Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you."

Quran 47:4: "Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), strike off their heads; at length; then when you have made wide Slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives": thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens."

Quran 9:5: But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem.

Quran 8:67: "It is not fitting for an Apostle that he should have prisoners of war until He thoroughly subdued the land-."

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Re: Peter Dutton appears with AFP in political ad on airport security

Post by brian ross » Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:42 pm

Verse (8:12) - English Translation

Welcome to the Quranic Arabic Corpus, an annotated linguistic resource for the Holy Quran. This page shows seven parallel translations in English for the twelfth verse of chapter 8 (sūrat l-anfāl). Click on the Arabic text to below to see word by word details of the verse's morphology.

Chapter (8) sūrat l-anfāl (The Spoils of War)

Sahih International: [Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."

Pickthall: When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.

Yusuf Ali: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

Shakir: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

Muhammad Sarwar: Your Lord inspired the angels saying, "I am with you. Encourage the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers and you will strike their heads and limbs;

Mohsin Khan: (Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels, "Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes."

Arberry: When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, 'I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers' hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!'
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Looks like you need a better translation of the Q'ran, Bogan. Care to try again? Mmmm? :roll
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Re: Peter Dutton appears with AFP in political ad on airport security

Post by Neferti » Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:24 pm

What does this have to do with Peter Dutton?

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Re: Peter Dutton appears with AFP in political ad on airport security

Post by brian ross » Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:41 pm

Neferti~ wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:24 pm
What does this have to do with Peter Dutton?
I thought you didn't care, Neferti? Ask Bogan, he's the one who introduced it into the thread. :roll
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