What happens if China restricts rare earths supply ?

[BigP]

The elements are also often found in minerals with thorium and, sometimes, uranium.

I suspected that might be the case .. and suggests from my self taught geology that these RE elements (in tiny traces) would exist in most granite. Granite usually has thorium in it and sometimes still uranium - thorium is decomposed uranium .. eventually it'll decompose to lead.

Lead ? lol

You've found a new friend J ,,

Are you suggesting thorium doesn't decompose to lead? .. or that uranium doesn't decompose to thorium?
If so yer fucken wrong .. but then I've noticed with Kiwis if it wasn't taught in their primary school it isn't true.
Suggest you do a bit of research on chemistry within geology Brainstorm.
Takes eons, but it's reasonably common knowledge that transition metals (elements) all decompose to something else, and in the case of uranium and thorium it eventually becomes lead. And the older the lead the less radioactive it is, and the more absorbent it is of radiation.

C'mon P, validate your condescension ... why don't you give us your version/run-down of events regarding thorium decay?

""Are you suggesting thorium doesn't decompose to lead? "".

Im not suggesting anything Yog, I just found it amusing,

No point in having any thorium in yur pencil if you have nobody to write to

[Juliar]

Sounds like the BigP is steadily decomposing. BigP Sounds like a closet Greeny. Same tactics, when he is out argued he launches a personal attack on his tormentor. Them Greenies are all the same.

[Juliar]

Leaving BigP to steadily decompose and back to the topic which seems to be too difficult for the poor chap.

Wonder if Kalgoolie will end up with a big black poisonous radioactive putrid lake like China's plant in Manchuria ?


Situation critical: Kalgoorlie on cusp of rare earths boom after critical mineral plant deal
Tom Zaunmayr Kalgoorlie Miner Tuesday, 10 December 2019 11:02AM


City of Kalgoorlie-Boulder Mayor John Bowler and Lynas managing director Amanda Lacaze. Credit: Tori O'Connor

Kalgoorlie-Boulder is on the cusp of becoming Australia’s critical minerals industry epicentre after yesterday signing off on a deal to build a rare earths downstream processing plant in the city.

Lynas Corporation’s top brass visited the Goldfields city yesterday to announce it had selected Kalgoorlie-Boulder as the site for its new cracking and leaching plant, estimated to be worth about $500 million.

The miner and City of Kalgoorlie-Boulder have agreed to a sublease for an industrial site within the city. Terms are still being finalised.

Today is really exciting for us because it is about doing value-added processing of an incredibly important resource
Amanda Lacaze

Speaking in the Kalgoorlie-Boulder council chambers, Lynas managing director Amanda Lacaze said Kalgoorlie’s proximity to its Mt Weld deposit near Laverton and history in mining made the city the ideal location for the plant.

“There’s been a lot of talk about Australia being the world’s quarry,” she said.

“Today is really exciting for us because it is about doing value-added processing of an incredibly important resource.

“(Kalgoorlie) is a mining town and that brings with it a whole lot more than just ‘we know how to dig holes’, it actually brings with it a recognition of safety for people, a level of expertise with respect to environmental management, and certainly the importance of community.”


Lynas Corp has announced plans to build a processing plant in Kalgoorlie-Boulder. Credit: Via Bloomberg

Ms Lacaze said engineering design for the plant was already “significantly” advanced.

The company will next have to wade through government approvals before starting construction.

Peak construction times could see as many as 500 people employed on the project.

Production, predicted for early 2023, could employ as many as 150 people.

The company has committed to a local workforce, however noted some fly-in, fly-out workers may be necessary.

We are a mining town, we understand downstream processing and we work with the mining companies
John Bowler

City of Kalgoorlie-Boulder Mayor John Bowler said Lynas would have a “friend” in the City.

“This is a great day for Kalgoorlie-Boulder, it just shows that we are open for business,” he said.

“We have worked hard to attract Lynas here and believe this will be a fantastic facility and service for the community which will broaden our economic base and lead to decades and decades of employment and wealth creation.

“We are a mining town, we understand downstream processing and we work with the mining companies.”

Mr Bowler said the City would work with Lynas to get a residential workforce employed on the project.

https://thewest.com.au/news/kalgoorlie- ... 881405599z

[BigP]

Sounds like the BigP is steadily decomposing. BigP Sounds like a closet Greeny. Same tactics, when he is out argued he launches a personal attack on his tormentor. Them Greenies are all the same.

pasting a plethora of pages from your favorite fantasy site doesn't make for an argument lol

[Juliar]

The BigP is decomposing steadily and showing his Greeny streak more and more. I do apologize to the Greeny BigP for posting articles on a subject that is too difficult for his decomposing mind to comprehend.

Perhaps he might contemplate the rare earths in his iPhone ?

[BigP]

The BigP is decomposing steadily and showing his Greeny streak more and more. I do apologize to the Greeny BigP for posting articles on a subject that is too difficult for his decomposing mind to comprehend.

Perhaps he might contemplate the rare earths in his iPhone ?

You never did answer the question regarding your successful investments, or are you as i suspect, full of it,,

And as far as decomposition goes we will all end up being recycled, That should keep your green friends happy,,

[BigP]

The BigP is decomposing steadily and showing his Greeny streak more and more. I do apologize to the Greeny BigP for posting articles on a subject that is too difficult for his decomposing mind to comprehend.

Perhaps he might contemplate the rare earths in his iPhone ?

dont have an iphone, There are plenty of untapped sources of rear earth elements out there, lets use up china's, then move onto the next bunch of suckers .. Australia maybe ?

[Outlaw Yogi]

The elements are also often found in minerals with thorium and, sometimes, uranium.

I suspected that might be the case .. and suggests from my self taught geology that these RE elements (in tiny traces) would exist in most granite. Granite usually has thorium in it and sometimes still uranium - thorium is decomposed uranium .. eventually it'll decompose to lead.

Lead ? lol

You've found a new friend J ,,

Are you suggesting thorium doesn't decompose to lead? .. or that uranium doesn't decompose to thorium?
If so yer fucken wrong .. but then I've noticed with Kiwis if it wasn't taught in their primary school it isn't true.
Suggest you do a bit of research on chemistry within geology Brainstorm.
Takes eons, but it's reasonably common knowledge that transition metals (elements) all decompose to something else, and in the case of uranium and thorium it eventually becomes lead. And the older the lead the less radioactive it is, and the more absorbent it is of radiation.

C'mon P, validate your condescension ... why don't you give us your version/run-down of events regarding thorium decay?

""Are you suggesting thorium doesn't decompose to lead? "".

Im not suggesting anything Yog, I just found it amusing,

No point in having any thorium in yur pencil if you have nobody to write to

Bullshit yer ignorant git .. can't back pedal after ..

Lead ? lol

I admit I am only partially trained in metallurgy and self taught in geology and chemistry so here's what published texts on the matter have to say.

Penguin Dictionary of Science, revised and updated second edition published 2004.

radioactive decay > radioactivity.

radioactivity The emission of particles or electromagnetic enery from the nucleus of an atom. It was discovered by Antoine Henri Becquerel in 1896,
and many new discoveries , such as the elements radium and polonium, quickly followed. Three types of radioactive decay occur: > alpha (a) decay,
> beta (b) decay, > gamma (y) decay. Radioactive decay is a first-order process (> order of reaction); as such the decay is exponential,
so a > half life can be tabulated for each radioisotope. when the decay product itself decays, and so on, the sequence of nuclides is known as a

radioactive series. There are several such series in which a succession of decays occurs until a stable nuclide is formed,
typically one of the isotopes of lead.

lead Symbol Pb

thorium Symbol Th. The element with the atomic number 90 and relative atomic mass 232.0. which is one of the > actinides. It is a grey radioactive
metallic solid. Its most common oxidation number is +4 as in the white solid oxide thoria, ThO2, used in the > Fischer-Tropsch synthesis.
the thorium series of radioactive decay starts with the nuclide 232Th and ends with 208Pb.

uranium Symbol U.


Penguine Dictionary of Geology Second edition 2001.

radioactive dating See RADIOMETRIC DATING.

radioisotope dating See RADIOMETRIC DATING.

radiometric dating (radioactive dating, radioisotope dating) Techniques of determining the age of rocks or FOSSILS from the relative proportions
of a radioactive parent and its daughter decay product(s). Knowledge of the radioactive decay constant or HALF-LIFE allows the proportion to be converted
into age. Methods include ARGO-ARGON DATING, LEAD-LEAD DATING, POTASSIUM-ARGON DATING, RADIOCARBON DATING, RUBIDIUM-STRONTIUM DATING,
SAMARIUM-NEODYMIUM DATING, THORIUM-LEAD DATING, and URANIUM-LEAD DATING.

lead-lead dating A RADIOMETRIC DATING method based on the proportion of radiogenic 207Pb and 206Pb, the former of which accumulates six times more
rapidly than the latter.

thorium-lead dating A RADIOMETRIC DATING method based on the decay of 232Th to 208Pb with a HALF-LIFE of 13.9 Ga.

uranium-lead age dating A dating method based on the radioactive decay of 238U and 235U to 206Pb and 207Pb respectively with HALF-LIVES of
4498 and 713 Ma. ZIRCON, which contains trace amounts of uranium, is the prefered MINERAL as its primary lead concentration is low and resistant
to uranium LEACHING.


Penguin Dictionary of Chemistry Third edition 2003.

lead, Pb. Metal, at. no. 82, at.mass 207.2 (variable), m.p. 327.46C, b.p. 1749C, density p 11 350, crustal abundance 14 p.p.m.,
electronic configuration [Xe]4f14-5d10-6s2-6p2. Lead isotopes are the ultimate product of the various radioactive decay series. Occurs naturally as galena,
PbS, and cerussite, PbCO3, which are roasted in air to PbO and recuced to Pb either by the reaction between PbO and PbS (to give Pb plus SO2) or with carbon
or electrolytically. The silvery-white metal is ccp. Lead is used extensively in alloys, in storage batteries (25%), for covering electrical cable, in water
and noise proofing, for lead alkyls, electronic devices, ceramics, pigments, radiation and sound shields, in paints, high-quality glass. Lead compounds are
toxic and hazardous to health.

radioactive decay process Loss od excitation energy as photon. Transfers energy as heat.

radioactive decay series The series of isotopes into which a radioactive nucleus is successfully transformed.

thorium, Th. Radioactive metal, at.no. 90, at.mass 232.04, m.p. 1750C, b.p. 4788C, density p 11 720, crustal abundance 12 p.p.m.,
electronic configuration [Rn] 6d2-7s2. The most important ores are thorite and thorogummite (silicates), thorianite (ThO2) and monazite
(a mixed phosphate, the principal lanthanide ore). The ores are decomposed with alkali or acid and Th is extracted from acid solution using solvents
such as tributyl phosphate. The metal has been prepared by Ca reduction of ThF4; it is tarnished in air and slowly attacked by hot water and dilute acids;
low temperature ccp, higher temperature bcc. ThO2 was used in the production of incandescent gas mantles; the fissile isotope 233U is obtained from 232Th
and thermal neutrons; ThO2 is an important catalyst (Fischer-Tropsch) and is used in strengthening nickel. The metal is used as an oxygen remover (getter)
in the electronics industry.

uranium, U. At.no. 92, at.mass 238.03, m.p. 1135C, b.p. 4131C, density p 18 950, crustal abundance 2.4 p.p.m., electronic configuration
[Rn] 4f3-6d1-7s2. Uranium is widely spread in nature (all isotopes are radioactive) and important ores are pitchblende (U3O8), uranite,
carnotite (KUO2-VO4.1.5H2O) coffinite (a silicate) and autunite and torbenite (hydrated double phosphates). Extraction is by flotation, acid extraction
under oxidising conditions, ion exchange, precipitation as hydrated oxide and purification by solvent extraction. The metal is best prepared by
reduction of UF4 with Mg at 700C. The metal is rapidly tarnished in air and attacked by hot water or acids. Both the fissile isotope 235U and the
more common isotope 238U (half-life 4.51 x 10 to power of 9 years) are of importance in nuclear reactions and in the formation of the actinide elements.
Fissile 235U is used in nuclear weapons. The isotopes are separated commercially by gaseous diffusion or centrifugation of UF6.
Uranium is used as an additive in steels, armaments, radiation shields; uranium carbide is a catalyst in the formation of NH3.

And something I didn't know ... according to my science dictionary Lanthanides (rare earths) are in more abundance in nature than iodine ... and I know the oceans are full of iodine because sea food is the best source of it.

Hmm, so BigPusillanimous' learning disability is probably due to the fact during the ice age/s land covered by glaciers sucked all the iodine out of the soil, so unless supplemented by reasonable amounts of sea food the result is defective brain activity.

[BigP]

I suspected that might be the case .. and suggests from my self taught geology that these RE elements (in tiny traces) would exist in most granite. Granite usually has thorium in it and sometimes still uranium - thorium is decomposed uranium .. eventually it'll decompose to lead.

Lead ? lol

You've found a new friend J ,,

Are you suggesting thorium doesn't decompose to lead? .. or that uranium doesn't decompose to thorium?
If so yer fucken wrong .. but then I've noticed with Kiwis if it wasn't taught in their primary school it isn't true.
Suggest you do a bit of research on chemistry within geology Brainstorm.
Takes eons, but it's reasonably common knowledge that transition metals (elements) all decompose to something else, and in the case of uranium and thorium it eventually becomes lead. And the older the lead the less radioactive it is, and the more absorbent it is of radiation.

C'mon P, validate your condescension ... why don't you give us your version/run-down of events regarding thorium decay?

""Are you suggesting thorium doesn't decompose to lead? "".

Im not suggesting anything Yog, I just found it amusing,

No point in having any thorium in yur pencil if you have nobody to write to

Bullshit yer ignorant git .. can't back pedal after ..

Lead ? lol

I admit I am only partially trained in metallurgy and self taught in geology and chemistry so here's what published texts on the matter have to say.

Penguin Dictionary of Science, revised and updated second edition published 2004.

radioactive decay > radioactivity.

radioactivity The emission of particles or electromagnetic enery from the nucleus of an atom. It was discovered by Antoine Henri Becquerel in 1896,
and many new discoveries , such as the elements radium and polonium, quickly followed. Three types of radioactive decay occur: > alpha (a) decay,
> beta (b) decay, > gamma (y) decay. Radioactive decay is a first-order process (> order of reaction); as such the decay is exponential,
so a > half life can be tabulated for each radioisotope. when the decay product itself decays, and so on, the sequence of nuclides is known as a

radioactive series. There are several such series in which a succession of decays occurs until a stable nuclide is formed,
typically one of the isotopes of lead.

lead Symbol Pb

thorium Symbol Th. The element with the atomic number 90 and relative atomic mass 232.0. which is one of the > actinides. It is a grey radioactive
metallic solid. Its most common oxidation number is +4 as in the white solid oxide thoria, ThO2, used in the > Fischer-Tropsch synthesis.
the thorium series of radioactive decay starts with the nuclide 232Th and ends with 208Pb.

uranium Symbol U.


Penguine Dictionary of Geology Second edition 2001.

radioactive dating See RADIOMETRIC DATING.

radioisotope dating See RADIOMETRIC DATING.

radiometric dating (radioactive dating, radioisotope dating) Techniques of determining the age of rocks or FOSSILS from the relative proportions
of a radioactive parent and its daughter decay product(s). Knowledge of the radioactive decay constant or HALF-LIFE allows the proportion to be converted
into age. Methods include ARGO-ARGON DATING, LEAD-LEAD DATING, POTASSIUM-ARGON DATING, RADIOCARBON DATING, RUBIDIUM-STRONTIUM DATING,
SAMARIUM-NEODYMIUM DATING, THORIUM-LEAD DATING, and URANIUM-LEAD DATING.

lead-lead dating A RADIOMETRIC DATING method based on the proportion of radiogenic 207Pb and 206Pb, the former of which accumulates six times more
rapidly than the latter.

thorium-lead dating A RADIOMETRIC DATING method based on the decay of 232Th to 208Pb with a HALF-LIFE of 13.9 Ga.

uranium-lead age dating A dating method based on the radioactive decay of 238U and 235U to 206Pb and 207Pb respectively with HALF-LIVES of
4498 and 713 Ma. ZIRCON, which contains trace amounts of uranium, is the prefered MINERAL as its primary lead concentration is low and resistant
to uranium LEACHING.


Penguin Dictionary of Chemistry Third edition 2003.

lead, Pb. Metal, at. no. 82, at.mass 207.2 (variable), m.p. 327.46C, b.p. 1749C, density p 11 350, crustal abundance 14 p.p.m.,
electronic configuration [Xe]4f14-5d10-6s2-6p2. Lead isotopes are the ultimate product of the various radioactive decay series. Occurs naturally as galena,
PbS, and cerussite, PbCO3, which are roasted in air to PbO and recuced to Pb either by the reaction between PbO and PbS (to give Pb plus SO2) or with carbon
or electrolytically. The silvery-white metal is ccp. Lead is used extensively in alloys, in storage batteries (25%), for covering electrical cable, in water
and noise proofing, for lead alkyls, electronic devices, ceramics, pigments, radiation and sound shields, in paints, high-quality glass. Lead compounds are
toxic and hazardous to health.

radioactive decay process Loss od excitation energy as photon. Transfers energy as heat.

radioactive decay series The series of isotopes into which a radioactive nucleus is successfully transformed.

thorium, Th. Radioactive metal, at.no. 90, at.mass 232.04, m.p. 1750C, b.p. 4788C, density p 11 720, crustal abundance 12 p.p.m.,
electronic configuration [Rn] 6d2-7s2. The most important ores are thorite and thorogummite (silicates), thorianite (ThO2) and monazite
(a mixed phosphate, the principal lanthanide ore). The ores are decomposed with alkali or acid and Th is extracted from acid solution using solvents
such as tributyl phosphate. The metal has been prepared by Ca reduction of ThF4; it is tarnished in air and slowly attacked by hot water and dilute acids;
low temperature ccp, higher temperature bcc. ThO2 was used in the production of incandescent gas mantles; the fissile isotope 233U is obtained from 232Th
and thermal neutrons; ThO2 is an important catalyst (Fischer-Tropsch) and is used in strengthening nickel. The metal is used as an oxygen remover (getter)
in the electronics industry.

uranium, U. At.no. 92, at.mass 238.03, m.p. 1135C, b.p. 4131C, density p 18 950, crustal abundance 2.4 p.p.m., electronic configuration
[Rn] 4f3-6d1-7s2. Uranium is widely spread in nature (all isotopes are radioactive) and important ores are pitchblende (U3O8), uranite,
carnotite (KUO2-VO4.1.5H2O) coffinite (a silicate) and autunite and torbenite (hydrated double phosphates). Extraction is by flotation, acid extraction
under oxidising conditions, ion exchange, precipitation as hydrated oxide and purification by solvent extraction. The metal is best prepared by
reduction of UF4 with Mg at 700C. The metal is rapidly tarnished in air and attacked by hot water or acids. Both the fissile isotope 235U and the
more common isotope 238U (half-life 4.51 x 10 to power of 9 years) are of importance in nuclear reactions and in the formation of the actinide elements.
Fissile 235U is used in nuclear weapons. The isotopes are separated commercially by gaseous diffusion or centrifugation of UF6.
Uranium is used as an additive in steels, armaments, radiation shields; uranium carbide is a catalyst in the formation of NH3.

And something I didn't know ... according to my science dictionary Lanthanides (rare earths) are in more abundance in nature than iodine ... and I know the oceans are full of iodine because sea food is the best source of it.

Hmm, so BigPusillanimous' learning disability is probably due to the fact during the ice age/s land covered by glaciers sucked all the iodine out of the soil, so unless supplemented by reasonable amounts of sea food the result is defective brain activity.

You must have worn yourself out finding and pasting all that information Yoggy , Best you pop your girlfriend on the ground and take a break , lol


You need to get yourself a life son

[Juliar]

BigP the self appointed Oracle who sees all hears all and knows not much has outlawed OutLaw who has made him look a bit silly.

Every Blog Site has one of these all seeing all hearing all knowing oracles. This oracle is perched on a house of cards.

Once again I must apologize to the BigP Oracle for posting something that is too difficult for his poor decomposing mind to comprehend.

Perhaps the radioactive rare earths in his phone are accelerating the decomposing of his great mind ?

Now, unlike the BigP oracle, something of interest and back on topic.

And apologies once again to the BigP oracle for posting something that is too difficult for him to understand.


Rare Earths rearing to go!!!! The next big STAR on the ASX??? Fortunes will be made and lost here.



Meteor Impact Site In Australia Targeted For Gold And Rare Metals
Tim Treadgold Asia Dec 12, 2019, 02:10am

It’s not quite digging for stardust but a long-shot mineral exploration project with government backing is probing what looks like a meteor impact site in the Australian desert for possible deposits of copper, gold and rare earths.

Strategic Elements. a small company listed on the Australian stock exchange, started drilling a test hole into the 7.5 mile wide impact site earlier this month after a successful geophysical survey revealed three target zones that might contain mineralized material.

Meteor Or Volcano?


Gosses Bluff meteor crater, west of Alice Springs, Central Australia. A better-known Australian meteor impact site, Gosses Bluff, measuring three miles in diameter with a rim 200 meters high, about 100 miles west of Alice Springs, Central Australia. (Photo by Education Images/Universal Images Group via Getty Images)UNIVERSAL IMAGES GROUP VIA GETTY IMAGES

The first question which explorers will try to answer from the drilling is whether the circular structure which has been identified in the remote Gibson Desert near the border of South Australia and Western Australia is whether it was made by a meteor or if its the remnant of an ancient volcano.

Either event could theoretically cause the consolidation of metals in the region into a commercially valuable resource with some of the world’s great mines the result of volcanic activity.

Meteor impact sites big enough to leave a permanent scar on the earth’s surface are much rarer and have not been routinely seen as exploration targets.

Strategic Elements, which openly acknowledges the high-risk nature of its meteor-impact theory, has been able to attract a $100,000 contribution from the government of the State of Western Australia which operates an exploration incentive scheme to assist with early stage work that might not appeal to most investors.

Named Behemoth the theoretical impact site cannot be seen on the surface but has been measured by a number scientific instruments which have revealed a series of deeply-buried magnetic rings of an unexplained origin.

Minerals which might be contained in the rings, or nearby material, include copper, gold and rare earths.

Nothing On The Surface

Limited exploration has been conducted in area, which is located about 500 miles east of Kalgoorlie, Australia’s gold mining capital, because of the harsh conditions and flat, featureless landscape which provides few clues to what might lie beneath the surface.

It has only been through geophysical tools that take measurements of magnetism and gravity that deeply-buried structures can be outlined, but even then the only reliable test is to drill and extract samples.

An example of the remoteness of Behemoth is that the last geological mapping was conducted more than 40 years ago.

Strategic Elements expects drilling will take several weeks.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timtreadgo ... f1c1ca43fb