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Re: The Holly See Steals Peter's Pence

Post by Bobby » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:02 pm

brian ross wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:47 pm
Bobby wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:12 pm
brian ross wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:29 pm

I'd suggest you know diddly squat about Catholicism, Bobby, just as you know diddly squat about most things. I was raised a Catholic. I know you're talking bullshit. :roll :roll

dear Brian,
I suggest that you know next to nothing about the Catholic church.
You haven't denied my claim.

forgiven

namaste
You have yet to prove your claim with a reference to any Catholic theological work, Bobby. :roll

Many Catholics give a lot more than $1 per week.
Do you deny that?

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Re: The Holly See Steals Peter's Pence

Post by brian ross » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:38 pm

Bobby wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:02 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:47 pm
Bobby wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:12 pm
brian ross wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:29 pm

I'd suggest you know diddly squat about Catholicism, Bobby, just as you know diddly squat about most things. I was raised a Catholic. I know you're talking bullshit. :roll :roll

dear Brian,
I suggest that you know next to nothing about the Catholic church.
You haven't denied my claim.

forgiven

namaste
You have yet to prove your claim with a reference to any Catholic theological work, Bobby. :roll
Many Catholics give a lot more than $1 per week.
Do you deny that?
Yes.
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Re: The Holly See Steals Peter's Pence

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:51 pm

Brian speaks on behalf of ALL Catholics dontcha know?

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Re: The Holly See Steals Peter's Pence

Post by brian ross » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:01 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:51 pm
Brian speaks on behalf of ALL Catholics dontcha know?
I note that you're not questioning Bobby's evidence, Black Orchid. Naughty, naughty, you. :roll :roll
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Re: The Holly See Steals Peter's Pence

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:10 pm

Why? Bobby says that many Catholics give more than $1 per week and that is the point you are arguing. I am sure many Catholics DO just that. Prove they don't Brian!

Now if you were arguing some of the other points Bobby has made I might agree with you but not on that one.

For instance ...
Catholics are expected to give a tithe of 10% of their income
Sorry Bobby but that's just BS.

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Re: The Holly See Steals Peter's Pence

Post by brian ross » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:50 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:10 pm
Why? Bobby says that many Catholics give more than $1 per week and that is the point you are arguing. I am sure many Catholics DO just that. Prove they don't Brian!

Now if you were arguing some of the other points Bobby has made I might agree with you but not on that one.

For instance ...
Catholics are expected to give a tithe of 10% of their income
Sorry Bobby but that's just BS.
Actually, I am arguing against Bobby's entire thesis. He has presented zero evidence to support anything he has claimed, Black Orchid. Bobby likes to make outrageous statements. Time he was reined in. :roll:
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Re: The Holly See Steals Peter's Pence

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:03 pm

brian ross wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:50 pm
Actually, I am arguing against Bobby's entire thesis. He has presented zero evidence to support anything he has claimed, Black Orchid. Bobby likes to make outrageous statements. Time he was reined in. :roll:
Irony much?

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Re: The Holly See Steals Peter's Pence

Post by brian ross » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:13 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:03 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:50 pm
Actually, I am arguing against Bobby's entire thesis. He has presented zero evidence to support anything he has claimed, Black Orchid. Bobby likes to make outrageous statements. Time he was reined in. :roll:
Irony much?
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Shame you don't believe in Irony for yourself, Black Orchid. :roll
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Re: The Holly See Steals Peter's Pence

Post by Bobby » Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:05 pm

brian ross wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:38 pm
Bobby wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:02 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:47 pm
Bobby wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:12 pm
brian ross wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:29 pm

I'd suggest you know diddly squat about Catholicism, Bobby, just as you know diddly squat about most things. I was raised a Catholic. I know you're talking bullshit. :roll :roll

dear Brian,
I suggest that you know next to nothing about the Catholic church.
You haven't denied my claim.

forgiven

namaste
You have yet to prove your claim with a reference to any Catholic theological work, Bobby. :roll
Many Catholics give a lot more than $1 per week.
Do you deny that?
Yes.

Brian is sort of right but he's also wrong:

https://www.catholic.com/qa/do-i-tithe- ... net-income

Question:
I'm not sure how much I'm supposed to be tithing.
Is it 10 percent of my gross income or 10 percent of my net income?

Answer:

The obligation to tithe (i.e., to give 10 percent of one’s gross income) was binding only on the Jews. Jesus fulfilled the Mosaic law (Matt. 5:17), so even Jews are no longer bound by it. But this doesn’t mean we’re not obligated to support the Church—we are—but there is no longer a specific percentage required.

Scripture provides insight on how Christians should give:

On the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper. (1 Cor. 16:2)

The point is this: he who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. Each one must do as he has made up his mind, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. (2 Cor. 9:6–7)

There is no mandatory requirement to give a specific amount of money or percentage of our income.
We should each decide for ourselves how much to give and then do so in the true spirit of giving a gift.

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Re: The Holly See Steals Peter's Pence

Post by brian ross » Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:00 pm

Bobby wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:05 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:38 pm
Bobby wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:02 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:47 pm
Bobby wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:12 pm



dear Brian,
I suggest that you know next to nothing about the Catholic church.
You haven't denied my claim.

forgiven

namaste
You have yet to prove your claim with a reference to any Catholic theological work, Bobby. :roll
Many Catholics give a lot more than $1 per week.
Do you deny that?
Yes.

Brian is sort of right but he's also wrong:

https://www.catholic.com/qa/do-i-tithe- ... net-income
From an American website, Bobby? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Such a silly sausage you are. It is not official church policy, it is not Australian church policy. Tsk, tsk. ::)
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