ACT Greens push for fairer payment system for fines
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ACT Greens push for fairer payment system for fines
ACT Greens push for fairer payment system for fines
People who receive a fine for simple offences such as not picking up after your dog, riding public transport without paying, or littering will be offered hardship payment options if the ACT Greens get a Bill to pass in the ACT Legislative Assembly.
ACT Greens MLA Caroline Le Couteur tabled the Bill in the Assembly last Wednesday (27 November), the second last day of sitting for the year.
The Bill seeks to provide Canberrans with more payment options for infringement notices for simple offences where a fine can be issued and paid in lieu of going to court.
This excludes road traffic and parking offences, as these are dealt with in separate legislation.
If the Bill is supported, Canberrans who receive notices for simple offences could apply to:
pay their fine in instalments, rather than all at once
participate in approved community work or a social development plan in lieu of a fine
have an infringement penalty waived if the nature of the offence and the circumstances justify such a waiver (for example, if someone had forgotten to tap on prior to boarding the light rail and this was their first offence).
The Bill is similar to the previous work of Greens MLA Amanda Bresnan in 2012 when the ACT Government created a scheme to better enable people to pay off parking and traffic infringements, including through community work orders.
Ms Le Couteur said the measures ensured that the consequences were proportionate to the offence.
“If you’re someone who’s living on social security and you get a fine, it could mean that you can’t eat for a couple of weeks,” Ms Le Couteur said.
“The level of fines for people on Newstart are equal to about all their weekly income, so we think there needs to be a fairer system that recognises the circumstances of people and not just the thing they are being fined for.
“By implementing a ‘fairer fines’ system, we can avoid entrenching poverty in our city, while enforcing our laws and still changing behaviour.”
Between 1 July 2017 and October this year, 303 infringements that fell within the jurisdiction of Transport Canberra and City Services were not paid. Of these, 300 were related to offences under the Domestic Animals Act 2000. The other three were under the Litter Act 2004 and were cancelled after being reviewed, and replaced with formal warning notices.
“Unfortunately it is not clear why these fines are not being paid; however, it is fair to assume that in many cases it is because people cannot pay them,” Ms Le Couteur said.
“In not paying, they risk prosecution. For those people on low incomes who do pay a fine, this will almost certainly mean sacrificing spending on something else.”
Part of the arrangements includes financial counselling, which the CEO of Care Financial Counselling Service, Carmel Franklin, said was a great alternative for people who could not afford to pay their fines.
“The vast majority of people who get fines are able to pay them and do pay them, but a small minority don’t pay them because they can’t, and what often happens is that these are people who are already in vulnerable situations,” Ms Franklin said.
“They’ve already got a lot of other things happening in their lives, so to have a system that potentially exacerbates that financial stress is not a good system,” Ms Franklin said.
Ms Le Couteur said the Greens had long fought to have a fairer fines system in the ACT, and were hopeful the Bill would be passed when the Assembly sits again next year.
“I’m never confident of anything in the Assembly. However, I’m very hopeful that given the government has acknowledged this system has worked really well for traffic and parking offences, it’s a logical extension,” she said.
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People who receive a fine for simple offences such as not picking up after your dog, riding public transport without paying, or littering will be offered hardship payment options if the ACT Greens get a Bill to pass in the ACT Legislative Assembly.
ACT Greens MLA Caroline Le Couteur tabled the Bill in the Assembly last Wednesday (27 November), the second last day of sitting for the year.
The Bill seeks to provide Canberrans with more payment options for infringement notices for simple offences where a fine can be issued and paid in lieu of going to court.
This excludes road traffic and parking offences, as these are dealt with in separate legislation.
If the Bill is supported, Canberrans who receive notices for simple offences could apply to:
pay their fine in instalments, rather than all at once
participate in approved community work or a social development plan in lieu of a fine
have an infringement penalty waived if the nature of the offence and the circumstances justify such a waiver (for example, if someone had forgotten to tap on prior to boarding the light rail and this was their first offence).
The Bill is similar to the previous work of Greens MLA Amanda Bresnan in 2012 when the ACT Government created a scheme to better enable people to pay off parking and traffic infringements, including through community work orders.
Ms Le Couteur said the measures ensured that the consequences were proportionate to the offence.
“If you’re someone who’s living on social security and you get a fine, it could mean that you can’t eat for a couple of weeks,” Ms Le Couteur said.
“The level of fines for people on Newstart are equal to about all their weekly income, so we think there needs to be a fairer system that recognises the circumstances of people and not just the thing they are being fined for.
“By implementing a ‘fairer fines’ system, we can avoid entrenching poverty in our city, while enforcing our laws and still changing behaviour.”
Between 1 July 2017 and October this year, 303 infringements that fell within the jurisdiction of Transport Canberra and City Services were not paid. Of these, 300 were related to offences under the Domestic Animals Act 2000. The other three were under the Litter Act 2004 and were cancelled after being reviewed, and replaced with formal warning notices.
“Unfortunately it is not clear why these fines are not being paid; however, it is fair to assume that in many cases it is because people cannot pay them,” Ms Le Couteur said.
“In not paying, they risk prosecution. For those people on low incomes who do pay a fine, this will almost certainly mean sacrificing spending on something else.”
Part of the arrangements includes financial counselling, which the CEO of Care Financial Counselling Service, Carmel Franklin, said was a great alternative for people who could not afford to pay their fines.
“The vast majority of people who get fines are able to pay them and do pay them, but a small minority don’t pay them because they can’t, and what often happens is that these are people who are already in vulnerable situations,” Ms Franklin said.
“They’ve already got a lot of other things happening in their lives, so to have a system that potentially exacerbates that financial stress is not a good system,” Ms Franklin said.
Ms Le Couteur said the Greens had long fought to have a fairer fines system in the ACT, and were hopeful the Bill would be passed when the Assembly sits again next year.
“I’m never confident of anything in the Assembly. However, I’m very hopeful that given the government has acknowledged this system has worked really well for traffic and parking offences, it’s a logical extension,” she said.
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Re: ACT Greens push for fairer payment system for fines
Unbelievable! If you are on the dole you can drop all your rubbish wherever and pay off the fine at 20 cents a fortnight? Can people on the dole afford a dog, walk it and not pick up it's poo?
Read the comments at the above site.
Read the comments at the above site.
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Re: ACT Greens push for fairer payment system for fines
Yep ACT Government , biggest bunch of screwballs I have ever seen!
Especially as it includes Greens.
Especially as it includes Greens.
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Re: ACT Greens push for fairer payment system for fines
Yes, that scrawny little shit. Only reason Labor got back in (hung parliament). Ah well.
When I came here in 1981 it was still controlled by the Federal Government, then Bob Hawke decided that Canberra should be self-governing .... WE voted NO NO NO, but Bob said "tough luck". Then everything went up in price, almost overnight!
If I recall, the new mickey mouse government included a "minister" who had been a ASO2 in the public service! Forgotten his name but ..........
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Re: ACT Greens push for fairer payment system for fines
The difficulty of course is that fines in every state/territory in Australia are absolutely ludicrous.
We aren't far away from being fined for picking our noses in public its that Orwellian....
AND the reason its so Orwellian is because everyone... from the local council who fines you
for parking in front of your own house to the Qld state government who has recently introduced
a one thousand dollar fine for using your mobile phone whilst driving......is stone cold stoney broke....
Even in Qld if a defendant goes to court and is fined, on top of the fine there is a $72 fee added
to the fine as a Court Levy...obviously another indirect tax imposed by the Qld government.
This applies to every appearance in court, not every fine...
Even in NSW Police are now authorised to look for loose coins which may rattle in your console
and therefore distract you from driving...and fine you if they find any.....
They are looking for every cent they can get their grubby little hands on because every state
and local government is broke...…
The level of fines in Australia is ludicrous...
AND the manner in which they are attached to your license/rego is draconian....this of course
incurs further government fees and charges for every step taken to recover the fine...
Rather than pushing for a fairer payment system, the entire fines and penalties system should be
overhauled in every state/territory and lesser monetary penalties imposed for minor offences....
We aren't far away from being fined for picking our noses in public its that Orwellian....
AND the reason its so Orwellian is because everyone... from the local council who fines you
for parking in front of your own house to the Qld state government who has recently introduced
a one thousand dollar fine for using your mobile phone whilst driving......is stone cold stoney broke....
Even in Qld if a defendant goes to court and is fined, on top of the fine there is a $72 fee added
to the fine as a Court Levy...obviously another indirect tax imposed by the Qld government.
This applies to every appearance in court, not every fine...
Even in NSW Police are now authorised to look for loose coins which may rattle in your console
and therefore distract you from driving...and fine you if they find any.....
They are looking for every cent they can get their grubby little hands on because every state
and local government is broke...…
The level of fines in Australia is ludicrous...
AND the manner in which they are attached to your license/rego is draconian....this of course
incurs further government fees and charges for every step taken to recover the fine...
Rather than pushing for a fairer payment system, the entire fines and penalties system should be
overhauled in every state/territory and lesser monetary penalties imposed for minor offences....
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Re: ACT Greens push for fairer payment system for fines
Fines should be based on earnings
If you earn 40k a year you pay say $200.00
But if you earn $400k year you pay $2000.00
Fair.
If you earn 40k a year you pay say $200.00
But if you earn $400k year you pay $2000.00
Fair.
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Re: ACT Greens push for fairer payment system for fines
I understand what youre saying...however its difficult to assess an offenders salary when an on the spot fine
is being imposed. Even when appearing in court how do you prove your income...is every offender supposed
to bring their payslips to court to prove their level of income.
I think that if an offence is petty, then a small fine should be imposed as a mandatory penalty.
Then as the offences become more serious, the mandatory penalty increases...
All too hard for our politicians...every fine imposed is just a revenue grab by governments going broke.....
is being imposed. Even when appearing in court how do you prove your income...is every offender supposed
to bring their payslips to court to prove their level of income.
I think that if an offence is petty, then a small fine should be imposed as a mandatory penalty.
Then as the offences become more serious, the mandatory penalty increases...
All too hard for our politicians...every fine imposed is just a revenue grab by governments going broke.....
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