Medevac will it go under ?

[Juliar]

The Medevac legacy of the lame duck Phelpsy is set to go into the garbage tin.

How much will Lambie try to wangle out of ScoMo before she will agree ? As an "independent" she is out to rort all she can. To Hell with Australia!




Morrison rules out NZ refugee offer
Daniel McCulloch and Matt Coughlan DECEMBER 2 2019 - 5:06PM


Scott Morrison is hoping to persuade Jacqui Lambie to back the government's repeal of medevac laws.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has ruled out accepting a refugee resettlement offer from New Zealand in return for Jacqui Lambie's support on repealing the medical evacuation laws.

Mr Morrison was due to sit down with Senator Lambie on Monday as he courts her crucial support to scrap the scheme.

She has offered to back the repeal bill on one condition but will not say what that is, saying it pertains to national security.

It is believed the condition could centre on the government accepting New Zealand's longstanding offer to resettle some asylum seekers in offshore detention.

Successive Labor and coalition governments have for many years declined to accept the offer, fearing it could send a signal to people smugglers.

"Our policies on those matters haven't changed," Mr Morrison told reporters in Canberra.

The government's Senate leader Mathias Cormann has confirmed the legislation will be voted on this week, even if Senator Lambie's support cannot be guaranteed.

"We will most certainly put the medevac repeal legislation to a vote this week," Senator Cormann told reporters.

"Every individual senator has to make a decision: whether they stand on the side of stronger national security or weaker national security."

The medevac laws, which were pushed through parliament against the government's wishes, gave doctors a greater say in bringing refugees from offshore detention to Australia for medical treatment.

Senate debate on the legislation kicked off on Monday but the final vote isn't expected until later in the week.

Labor's home affairs spokeswoman Kristina Keneally said Immigration Minister Peter Dutton's failure to deliver on resettlement options had led to poor physical and mental health for people in offshore processing.

"Denying people medical care is un-Australian. It is inhumane. It is uncompassionate," she told parliament.

"Labor strongly supports Medevac. Medevac is working as intended. These laws should not be repealed."

Greens senator Nick McKim urged colleagues to block the repeal, arguing decisions on health should be made by doctors rather than ministers or bureaucrats.

"Anybody who does support the repeal of medevac can expect to have blood on their hands," he said.

A loss on the medevac repeal bill could be the government's second significant defeat in as many weeks, after its union-busting legislation was shot down in the Senate on Thursday.

The government sees itself in somewhat of a win-win position on the medevac repeal bill.

If the Senate supports the repeal, the government can claim to have regained control of the borders.

If the government loses the vote, it can continue to attack Labor for supporting the medevac scheme.

https://www.blayneychronicle.com.au/sto ... gee-offer/

[Black Orchid]

Phelps lasted little more than 12 months and did untold damage and that's a disgrace in itself. Medevac needs to go under so I hope Lambie does the right thing.

[brian ross]

Meanspirited repeal of legislation by a meanspirited government who seeks to punish innocent Asylum Seekers who have broken no laws. Tsk, tsk. Hopefully Lambie won't buckle to government pressure.

[Juliar]

Good old BRossy, a deeply indoctrinated Greeny to the last. Is RESTART the BOATS his motto ?

[Valkie]

Meanspirited repeal of legislation by a meanspirited government who seeks to punish innocent Asylum Seekers who have broken no laws. Tsk, tsk. Hopefully Lambie won't buckle to government pressure.

Country shopping criminals fleeing from their own countries because they are criminals.

Most never work, many start doing in Australia what they did before they flee.
Too many are sexual predators and deviates.

They are worthless trash, throw them back where they come from
Or if you can't find where they come from, throw them back at the last country that the came from.

We don't want, deserve or need this human trash.

[Juliar]

Rorting of the Medevac farce by Labor's Illegal Invaders is rampant.



Medevac: we've been duped by ridiculous ruse
Amanda Vanstone Former Howard government minister November 10, 2019 — 11.41pm

It’s a sick personality type that wants to convince Australians that they are cruel, mean and heartless to refugees when in fact we are one of the most generous countries in the world for permanent resettlement.

Why in those circumstances does anyone imagine that running us down is a good message, especially for children? We know that children can absorb the environment that surrounds them. How do we expect them to think and behave when they are adults if we spend years telling them how mean and harsh we are?


Kerryn Phelps, Julia Banks and Rebekha Sharkie celebrate after the medevac bill passes the House of Representatives.CREDIT:ALEX ELLINGHAUSEN

We are one of the big three immigration countries in the world. Along with the other two, the USA and Canada, we are generous to people needing permanent resettlement. It’s in our DNA. Being an immigration nation is the essence of who we are.

Unless you are a full-blood Indigenous Australian, you’ve got migrant blood in your veins. We should be proud of who we are, of how many we welcome. Our kids should grow up understanding the importance of our long history of immigration in terms of our national psyche.

We now have the luxury of looking back on the medevac legislation to see what has actually happened. As I recall, the message to Australians was that we were a mean and heartless lot. People were dying because they couldn’t get appropriate treatment on Nauru.

Never mind that there’s a hospital there considered good enough for Nauruans. Never mind that we would fund treatment in other countries if it was deemed necessary.

The idea that many people were given was that the only people who would come here under the legislation would be people in need of emergency medical treatment. It all sounded so caring- provided you don’t deal in the reality of life.

Anybody knows that people who want to get to and, importantly, stay in Australia have an infinitely better chance of succeeding if they can get here first.

The legal system is there to protect us all. Sadly, some people use it to endlessly delay their return from Australia. All you have to do is get here first.

So what do we know about the operation of the medevac legislation? Well, we know that according to recent Senate estimates, 135 people had arrived. If you thought all 135 required hospitalisation, you’d be a sucker. Come in, spinner!

Only 13 have been admitted to hospital, just under 10 per cent. Incredible. Five came under this ridiculous ruse and refused treatment. Forty-three more refused initial screening such as X-ray and pathology tests.

What’s so compassionate about taking someone who can afford a people smuggler?

Incidentally, 120 applications were lodged in October. How unusual. What was a trickle in March steadily built up and then - wham. Are we to assume something has caused this sudden spike? Here’s a prediction. None of them will go back to Nauru.

It’s a classic example of people using emotion to control our thinking. Saying “this is the compassionate thing to do” is designed to do two things. First, paint yourself as the angel. Second, it’s meant to make the rest of us, who may have a different view, think and feel that we lack compassion.

We’re meant to believe that others will judge us poorly unless we agree “to be compassionate". Many people naturally prefer to be thought of as compassionate and consequently join the group telling everyone they’re the nice guys.

But it’s just a high school debating tactic. The question of who is the more compassionate surely needs to take into account how others are treated. People with plenty of cash can afford to pay people smugglers. People less fortunate, poor people, cannot access that cash.

What’s so compassionate about taking someone who can afford a people smuggler instead of the poor people in refugee camps who just can’t afford one? The answer is nothing. Compassionate to the rich, blind to the poor ... not very compassionate at all.

It really is just the politics of proximity. These people are nearby, we can see them on TV and they become mere props for political propaganda ... pictures with which to make yourself look good. It’s as ugly and basic as that.

Do you wonder what emergency illnesses the people who refused treatment or scanning were suffering from? I’ll bet the list of names of the doctors who signed off on the need for treatment is kept closely guarded. It might be to protect the appearance of a cabal of political activists or to protect doctors who were hoodwinked.

We may never know. Home Affairs had concerns about some of the arrivals, about half a dozen, but the legislation doesn’t always allow their view to prevail.

During the Lindt Cafe siege, I was rung by journalists asking, “Did he come in on your watch?” I wonder which doctors will fess up if one of these people harms an Australian citizen?

Here’s the bottom line. We’ve been duped. Some people will, in the name of promoting themselves politically as compassionate and caring do stupid things that are not in the national interest. We all pay the price.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/fede ... 538w3.html

[Black Orchid]

There's an example in another thread where a violent criminal tried getting here under Medevac because his daughter required medical treatment.

The usual suspect/s slammed Dutton for blocking him and the brother was then going to be the one to accompany her. It's not like she needed her criminal and abusive father with her and she has family here anyway.

Get rid of Medevac.

[Juliar]

On 2GB just now Ray Hadley was saying Jacqui will support the farcical Medevac rubbish inflicted on the taxpayers by that lame duck Phelpsy.

So it is just a matter of hours before this Lunatic Extremist Greeny rubbish is shoved into the garbage tin.

Wonder how much or what ScoMo had to give Jacqui to get her to agree to vote ?


Now read how Jacqui is putting on such a show in the Senate as the Greenies hurl barbs and insults at her but Jacqui doesn't care as she has gotten her rewards from ScoMo.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... itics-live

[Juliar]

The ridiculous Lunatic Extremist Greeny Medevac lame duck Phelpsy crap is bye bye, past tense, extinct, and laid to rest as Australia's hero Jacqui accepts ScoMo's gifts and passes this rubbish into extinction.

The Lunatic Extremist Greenies are spitting chips and frothing at the mouth and coughing up fur balls.

Wonder how much or what ScoMo had to give Jacqui to get her to vote ?




Legislation to repeal medevac laws passes Senate
Samantha Maiden 10:52am, Dec 4, 2019 Updated: 18m ago


An emotional Jacqui Lambie has given her support to repeal refugee medical evacuation laws. Photo: AAP


A ‘secret deal’ has been struck with Tasmanian Senator Jacqui Lambie to repeal laws allowing for the medical evacuation of sick asylum seekers on Manus Island and Nauru.

Speculation has emerged it could involve the Morrison government considering sending refugees to New Zealand – but only after the US people-swap deal ends.

The Senate voted to dump the laws on Wednesday morning, amid uproar in the Senate chamber over the refusal of the government to reveal what the compromise deal will entail. The final vote was won 37 to 35.

Senator Lambie wept as she declared her support for the abolition of the medevac laws.

“I’m not being coy or silly when I say I genuinely can’t say what I proposed. I know that’s frustrating to people,” she said.

“And I get that. I don’t like holding things back like this. But when I say I can’t discuss it publicly due to national security concerns, I am being 100 per cent honest to you.”

“This is a matter of conscience. I can’t let the boats start back up and I can’t let refugees die, whether it’s sinking into the ocean or waiting for a doctor and I am voting to make sure that neither of these things happen.”

One reason why Ms Lambie might agree not to disclose the deal on ‘national security grounds’ is if the government has given her advice that announcing the New Zealand deal publicly could restart the boats.

The Prime Minister said last week “our policies on those matters haven’t changed.”

Earlier, Senate leader Matthias Cormann appeared to contradict Senator Lambie’s admission by claiming there was no horse-trading on the laws.

“There is no secret deal. There is no secret,” he said.

Greens leader Richard Di Natale said both accounts could not be correct.

“Someone is misleading the Senate. Someone is misleading the Senate about one of the most important pieces of legislation that has been before this Parliament,” he said.

Labor leader Anthony Albanese signalled Labor would continue to support medevac.

“You can be strong on borders without being weak on humanity. And on every issue, that’s what’s missing from this government – humanity,” he said.

“From robodebt, to the aged care crisis, to medevac. This mob has no heart.”

Labor Senate leader Penny Wong said it was “a deal that dare not speak its name”.

“It appears there’s been a deal done to repeal medevac. Well the Australian people want to see the deal; this Senate wants to see the deal,” she said.

But it’s not the first time governments have entered into secret deals with the crossbench to secure contentious legislation. One of former Tasmanian Senator Brian Harradine’s conditions when voting on the privatisation of Testra was restrictions on the importation of RU486, the abortion pill.

One Nation senators Malcolm Roberts and Pauline Hanson also voted to repeal the medevac legislation.

Senator Hanson claimed asylum seekers were “swallowing stones” and injecting their genitals with palm oil to get evacuated.

“These people are not of good character. They’re rapists. These people are thugs. They don’t belong here in Australia,” Senator Hanson said.

“We will be supporting this bill very, very strongly.”

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/nationa ... ac-repeal/

[Black Orchid]

Whatever she wanted can't be as bad and potentially damaging as Medevac.