Bloomberg prepares to enter Presidential Race

[Fred]

My my, such prickly hostility toward the American president!

What's the matter -- can't handle a U.S. leader who has the audacity to put his own nation and citizens first ... instead of sucking up to globalist interests and opening our borders to every Central American and Middle Eastern refugee of dubious origin who wants a free pass into our country?

No, I just don't like Trump. Never did. Unfortunately I have to accept that his administration is doing some good things, but still don't have to like the dick.

[The4thEstate]

My my, such prickly hostility toward the American president!

What's the matter -- can't handle a U.S. leader who has the audacity to put his own nation and citizens first ... instead of sucking up to globalist interests and opening our borders to every Central American and Middle Eastern refugee of dubious origin who wants a free pass into our country?

No, I just don't like Trump. Never did. Unfortunately I have to accept that his administration is doing some good things, but still don't have to like the dick.

Which you're free to do. But I do have a few thoughts on that topic:

1. How would any of us react if we'd been under a constant barrage from the Democrats and the media (pardon the redundancy) since the nanosecond we won the election -- and even before that? The difference between Trump and most Republican politicians is that he's a counterpuncher who's lived in the spotlight most of his life.

Does that make him a nice guy who's forever being misunderstood? Not necessarily. There are times when his Twitter tweets probably should have been reconsidered before he sent them. But ...

2. I'd rather have an effective president who acts resolutely in the interests of my country and its citizens than -- as in Obama's case -- a smirking, too-cool-for-school leader who has no qualms about handing the Iranian mullahs $150 billion (including cash on pallets) and signing a climate treaty that obligates America to cut its CO2 emissions by 28 percent and pay $3 billion to the U.N. while allowing China to do nothing for 15 years.

3. Another take on Trump and his sometimes-abrasive personality: As the analogy goes, if I had to have open-heart surgery, I'd rather it be done by a surgeon of 30 years' experience who cheats on his wife ... than by a doctor who attends church regularly, is faithful to his wife, and has never performed open-heart surgery before.

The point is, I don't really care if Trump's personality rubs people the wrong way, or if his speech sometimes makes grandmothers cover their ears, just as long as he can run the country effectively. And there's no question, given current economic indicators, that Trump is taking Obama to school on economics. He also vanquished ISIS and its caliphate in short order and has transformed the U.S. into an energy-independent nation, mainly by cutting through his predecessor's multifaceted attempts to keep the federal government's foot on the throat of domestic energy development.

Bottom line: Trump may indeed be a jerk at times ... maybe even frequently. But the reason he has such a devoted following is that for the first time in years, if not decades, average Americans genuinely feel like they have a president who actually cares more about their concerns than those of the entrenched ruling class. (Which is why the ruling class is currently engaged in trying to oust Trump before the people have a chance to vote for him next November.)

[Nicole]

Good post 4E!

[The4thEstate]

Thanks, Nicole!

And by the way, if anybody seriously thought that American Democrats would flock to the polls to support Michael Bloomberg, check out the hit piece that the left-wing publication Slate just delivered. (Hint: When lefties compare you to Trump -- regardless of whether their accusations against Trump are actually valid -- it's their way of attempting to give you the political kiss of death.)

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... exism.html

Like Donald Trump, the former New York City mayor has made repeated remarks about the physical appearance and sexual desirability of women in his workplace. Like Trump, Bloomberg has allegedly complained about employees getting pregnant. Like Trump, he’s bragged about his sexual escapades and dismissed women who’ve accused him of harassment as money-grubbing liars.

[Nom De Plume]

The American billionaire Michael Bloomberg entered the race for the U.S. presidency, announcing his candidacy in the Alabama Democratic primary election, a step that may shake up a wide open presidential election.

American President Donald Trump, who is waging a fierce battle to avoid removal from office, rushed to attack Bloomberg and belittle his candidacy.

Trump will definitely reassess his calculation that former Vice President Biden will challenge him for the presidency. That calculation drew Trump into making huge mistakes which led to the ongoing impeachment inquiry in Congress.

The landscape has changed as Biden fades within the Democratic Party and Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders surge. In Bloomberg’s assessment, Biden is growing weaker and neither Warren nor Sanders can defeat Trump. In any case, Bloomberg’s entry into the presidential race reflects the confusion that the Democratic Party is experiencing as it searches for a candidate capable of taking back the White House from Trump. It is very likely that Bloomberg’s candidacy is a message to Biden that he will not gain the support of big money donors who want another contender who can face down Trump. That certainly will not be Sanders or Warren, whom these donors accuse of being socialists.

In accordance with this opinion, the corporate wing of the Democratic Party is no longer betting on Biden and wants to block those considered to be from the left-wing of the party. This does not mean that Bloomberg will stay in the race until the end. Perhaps before us is an operation to pave the way for another candidate who is better able to reconcile and unite conflicting wings of the Democratic Party for the crucial battle against Trump.

http://watchingamerica.com/WA/2019/11/1 ... -benefits/

So Bloomberg is merely forcing Biden out of the race?

[Fred]

My my, such prickly hostility toward the American president!

What's the matter -- can't handle a U.S. leader who has the audacity to put his own nation and citizens first ... instead of sucking up to globalist interests and opening our borders to every Central American and Middle Eastern refugee of dubious origin who wants a free pass into our country?

No, I just don't like Trump. Never did. Unfortunately I have to accept that his administration is doing some good things, but still don't have to like the dick.

Which you're free to do. But I do have a few thoughts on that topic:

1. How would any of us react if we'd been under a constant barrage from the Democrats and the media (pardon the redundancy) since the nanosecond we won the election -- and even before that? The difference between Trump and most Republican politicians is that he's a counterpuncher who's lived in the spotlight most of his life.

Does that make him a nice guy who's forever being misunderstood? Not necessarily. There are times when his Twitter tweets probably should have been reconsidered before he sent them. But ...

First, I do believe every president in the last half century has had to deal with constant attacks from opposing political persuasion. It is HOW he reacts to the constant harassment that makes the difference. Also it is demonstration of the type of person how he does react. Being a counter puncher is not about hitting back to every stupid and pathetic attempt to distract, it is about selecting the fights to punch back at. What determines the character is what he chooses to fight.

2. I'd rather have an effective president who acts resolutely in the interests of my country and its citizens than -- as in Obama's case -- a smirking, too-cool-for-school leader who has no qualms about handing the Iranian mullahs $150 billion (including cash on pallets) and signing a climate treaty that obligates America to cut its CO2 emissions by 28 percent and pay $3 billion to the U.N. while allowing China to do nothing for 15 years.

And he has proven me wrong, in many areas here, I don’t deny. BUT again the point is that he should stop dwelling on his popularity and just get on with the job…

3. Another take on Trump and his sometimes-abrasive personality: As the analogy goes, if I had to have open-heart surgery, I'd rather it be done by a surgeon of 30 years' experience who cheats on his wife ... than by a doctor who attends church regularly, is faithful to his wife, and has never performed open-heart surgery before.

The point is, I don't really care if Trump's personality rubs people the wrong way, or if his speech sometimes makes grandmothers cover their ears, just as long as he can run the country effectively. And there's no question, given current economic indicators, that Trump is taking Obama to school on economics. He also vanquished ISIS and its caliphate in short order and has transformed the U.S. into an energy-independent nation, mainly by cutting through his predecessor's multifaceted attempts to keep the federal government's foot on the throat of domestic energy development.

Bottom line: Trump may indeed be a jerk at times ... maybe even frequently. But the reason he has such a devoted following is that for the first time in years, if not decades, average Americans genuinely feel like they have a president who actually cares more about their concerns than those of the entrenched ruling class. (Which is why the ruling class is currently engaged in trying to oust Trump before the people have a chance to vote for him next November.)

I agree too much of your comment and while I don’t like the dick, I have to accept he has done some good work. BUT as I have said before he should ignore my protestations over my like for him and just get on with the job. He fixates too much on his popularity.

I believe it is his fixation on being the popular president that has caused these issues. His obsession has made him act in such a manner as to promote ill-considered comments and political acts that re-inforce the dislike of him.

[The4thEstate]

I don't even argue that Trump often comes off looking petty -- and in many cases should simply refrain from responding on Twitter to every cheap shot taken at him.

But, as I've said before, I'd rather have a president who can run the economy and isn't always a nice guy ... than a supposed nice guy like Jimmy Carter, who loved to piously preach about human rights, etc., but was such a pushover that he wound up getting dozens of Americans taken hostage in Iran for 444 days ... which ended only when Ronald Reagan took office.

[Bogan]

NDP wrote

So.. who are our Yankie members going to vote for?

Texan isn't a yankee, he is a southern gentleman.

[brian ross]

I don't even argue that Trump often comes off looking petty -- and in many cases should simply refrain from responding on Twitter to every cheap shot taken at him.

But, as I've said before, I'd rather have a president who can run the economy and isn't always a nice guy ... than a supposed nice guy like Jimmy Carter, who loved to piously preach about human rights, etc., but was such a pushover that he wound up getting dozens of Americans taken hostage in Iran for 444 days ... which ended only when Ronald Reagan took office.

Bit hard to blame poor, ol' Jimmy for what the previous what, 29 years of US Government fuckups had caused. Ever since the CIA overthrew the last democratically elected Prime Minister in Iran, you have to accept some of the blame for what happened in 1979, 4E.

What I always found remarkable was that the hostages weren't released until after Reagan took office. It seems foreign interference in US elections isn't unknown in the United States...

[Bogan]

Brian Ross wrote

Bit hard to blame poor, ol' Jimmy for what the previous what, 29 years of US Government fuckups had caused. Ever since the CIA overthrew the last democratically elected Prime Minister in Iran, you have to accept some of the blame for what happened in 1979, 4E.

Yeah, your right, Brian. If any population is stupid enough to vote socialists in power, the USA should just let them do it, and then that population can spend the next 50 years regretting their stupidity. The stupid Iranians over threw the Shah who wanted to turn Iran into a middle eastern version of Europe, but the stupid Iranians didn't want that, and they put the mullahs in power. Now everybody in Iran wants to live in Europe, the USA, or Australia.

The more North Koreas, Venezuela's, and Cuba;s, the better. Wonderful showcases of socialism.

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Cuban supermarket



According to the ABC, the mullahs shot 106 protesters a few days ago who were protesting about rising fuel prices. I wonder how many of those dead once cheered on Khomeini? The mullahs are sticking limpet mines on tankers and shooting cruise missiles at Saudi refineries, and you are the mullah's apologist. What is wrong with you?

Brian Ross wrote

What I always found remarkable was that the hostages weren't released until after Reagan took office. It seems foreign interference in US elections isn't unknown in the United States...

Clinton ordered a military rescue and it failed. Reagan sold the Iranians parts for US weapons that the Iranians needed to fight the Iraqis. In return, he got the hostages out. A good deal for the USA. That let the stupid Iraqis and Iranians to kill each other off for eight years and not be a problem to the world that they both eventually came to be.

Those yanks are smart.