Making America Orwellian.

[Nom De Plume]

The deadline of yet another, and perhaps the most insidious, element of the post-9/11 initiatives (a partial list of which includes the establishment of the Transportation Security Agency, the Department of Homeland Security, and a never-ending international war against a nebulously-defined, noncorporeal enemy, “terror”) is less than one year from coming to fruition. Beginning no later than October 1, 2020, citizens of all US states and territories will be required to have a Real ID compliant card or US passport to board a commercial plane or enter a Federal government facility. Pundits citing the inevitability of what amounts to a national ID card have, regrettably, been vindicated.

To be sure, some states have resisted, but dependence upon Federal aid and other programs administered from Washington D.C. makes their ultimate surrender and compliance inevitable.

Looking back, Social Security Numbers and the cards bearing them broke ground for the path to a national identification system — thank you, Franklin Delano Roosevelt. For decades there have been pointed reminders that the cards were intended to be account numbers and not integrated into a government registry of American citizens.

Repeated efforts, starting in the 1970s, to forge identifiers from the Social Security system have been rebuffed: in 1971, 1973, and 1976. The Reagan Administration indicated its “explicit oppos[tion]” to a national identification system. Both the Clinton healthcare reform plan (1993) and a provision of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 requiring Social Security Numbers on driver’s licenses were rejected (the latter in 1999) to some extent upon the basis of tacitly constituting national identifiers for Americans.
There are any number of reasons why the alleged tradeoff between liberty and security that a national ID card represents are being misrepresented.

Any system designed, maintained, and run by human beings is ultimately flawed, and in any case corruptible. The existing documents from which the information fed into the Real ID program are eminently vulnerable to forgery. To provide just one example: tens (perhaps hundreds) of thousands of Americans don’t have verifiable, “official” birth certificates.

And people can become radicalized after being issued their Real ID card.

The Real ID also represents the “last mile” in the ability of the state to track individuals in real time. With various electronic, social media, and cellphone tracking measures, there is always a delay; and one can choose not to use social media, not to own a cellphone, and opt into other methods of extricating oneself from the prying eyes of the NSA or other government agencies. But the Real ID — in particular, coupled with biometrics — fulfills Orwellian conceptions of the total surveillance state.

Expect it, over time, to be leveraged against individuals with outstanding traffic tickets, tax disputes, child or spousal support arrears, or behind on loan payments. Access to national parks and historic sites may be tied to it. Recent proposals pushing compulsory voting are a step closer to realization and enforcement with the establishment of a mandatory government ID card. Census data, drug prescriptions, and even library borrowing choices and habits are likely to eventually be linked with personal data associated with the new ID requirement. And if the Real ID is eventually accessible by the private sector, many individuals with innocuously-tainted personal histories may become effectively unemployable.

Indeed: the worst US government infringements upon the life, liberty, and the much referred to “pursuit of happiness” of American citizens over the last two centuries — and mostly within the last two decades — will be vastly easier and more efficient to accomplish with the imposition of a mandatory identification requirement.

https://www.aier.org/article/while-you- ... passports/

[Nom De Plume]

I would be very interested in what our American members think.

[Texan]

The invasion of our privacy started a hundred years ago with the income tax. Until that point in time, citizens had no requirement of direct control by the federal government. The states handled those functions. The income tax grew from it's original 1% and then Social Security became a forced Ponzi scheme. Our vehicles are registered and are linked to the owners. Our phone data and location are accessible to law enforcement and are always just a few minutes and a judge's signature on a search warrant away from being used against us. It's impossible to work legally without registering yourself and being tracked by the federal government. My state doesn't even covet my paycheck with an income tax.

As long as I obey the law I have no problems, but if I don't agree with a law I'm hosed. As powerful as our computers are, we have passed Orwell's fantasies in many ways. With my phone, they can see what's on my camera, listen to me, see what I see on the internet, see my texts, see who I talk to, hear what I say to those people, see where I've been, and see all of my contacts and their phone numbers. Some cities have scanners on their police cars. If the scanner sees the automobile license plate of someone with an active arrest warrant, it notifies the cop in the car and they can chase you down. In order to have privacy of any kind, I have to walk(or ride in someone else's car and not carry a phone. I don't like it and it seems every day there is a new use of our data that our government can't live without. If they decide I have to be tagged, things won't go well.

[Valkie]

I honestly believe this is the primary reason that our grubberment has brought in the CULT OF DEATH to our country.

Banking on the CULT undertaking terrorist acts, murder and generally behaving as the CULT of DEATH behaves, the grubberment woukd be able to implement more and more draconian laws and impositions to further monitor the population.
All with the general public's agreement and even encouragement " for security reasons"

The grubberment now has full visibility of everything you do, every cent you spend, where you go, who with and for how long.

Control, control, control.
This is why they brought this desease into our country
This is why they protect and encourage this desease.
This is why the world welcomes this desease into their countries

Simply so that the grubberments of these countries can impose more and more control.

But it will come back to bite them eventually
Just like it has done in France, Germany, Sweden etc.

[Bobby]

We lost our privacy long ago and we
get less privacy every day.
There's not much we can do about it -
we don't exactly get a vote for privacy box to tick when we vote.

We don't get a vote on anything other than 2 dickhead parties
that never talk about what we're really interested in.

We got a vote on poofter marriage and they could have included
at least 20 more questions on that referendum but they didn't.
How about a vote on uncontrolled immigration?
How about a vote for the pension at the age when you need it and not 67 or 70?

[Valkie]

We lost our privacy long ago and we
get less privacy every day.
There's not much we can do about it -
we don't exactly get a vote for privacy box to tick when we vote.

We don't get a vote on anything other than 2 dickhead parties
that never talk about what we're really interested in.

We got a vote on poofter marriage and they could have included
at least 20 more questions on that referendum but they didn't.
How about a vote on uncontrolled immigration?
How about a vote for the pension at the age when you need it and not 67 or 70?

We actually didn't get a vote on pooftah marriage at all.

It was a cleverly manipulated ruse.
They knew that the majority would vote against pooftah marriage if it were an honest vote.

But a fake vote, uncontrolled and easily manipulated , woukd give them any result you want

Even the figures were designed to confuse people
Those who disagree woukd be placated, believing that they were defeated by the majority by just enough to make it plausible.

When in reality the vote was more the other way.
But the grubberment was being hijacked by pooftahs who were becoming more and more recalcitrant and the easiest way to bring them back woukd be to allow this sick marriage to happen.

But the grubberment didn't count on the emboldment of the LGBTIQSELFISH who having allegedly won the vote, and who now want even more sick practice to propagate.

Trust no grubberment
Trust nothing They say or do.
For they are the consulate evil in the world, masquerading as benevolent, they are nothing but selfish and Murderious.

Bring on the revolution

[Bobby]

We actually didn't get a vote on pooftah marriage at all.

It was a cleverly manipulated ruse.
They knew that the majority would vote against pooftah marriage if it were an honest vote.

But a fake vote, uncontrolled and easily manipulated , woukd give them any result you want

Even the figures were designed to confuse people
Those who disagree woukd be placated, believing that they were defeated by the majority by just enough to make it plausible.

When in reality the vote was more the other way.
But the grubberment was being hijacked by pooftahs who were becoming more and more recalcitrant and the easiest way to bring them back woukd be to allow this sick marriage to happen.

But the grubberment didn't count on the emboldment of the LGBTIQSELFISH who having allegedly won the vote, and who now want even more sick practice to propagate.

Trust no grubberment
Trust nothing They say or do.
For they are the consulate evil in the world, masquerading as benevolent, they are nothing but selfish and Murderious.

Bring on the revolution

I don't think the poofter marriage votes were rigged.
It proved how powerful propaganda can be to
convince people to vote for it.

[Valkie]

We actually didn't get a vote on pooftah marriage at all.

It was a cleverly manipulated ruse.
They knew that the majority would vote against pooftah marriage if it were an honest vote.

But a fake vote, uncontrolled and easily manipulated , woukd give them any result you want

Even the figures were designed to confuse people
Those who disagree woukd be placated, believing that they were defeated by the majority by just enough to make it plausible.

When in reality the vote was more the other way.
But the grubberment was being hijacked by pooftahs who were becoming more and more recalcitrant and the easiest way to bring them back woukd be to allow this sick marriage to happen.

But the grubberment didn't count on the emboldment of the LGBTIQSELFISH who having allegedly won the vote, and who now want even more sick practice to propagate.

Trust no grubberment
Trust nothing They say or do.
For they are the consulate evil in the world, masquerading as benevolent, they are nothing but selfish and Murderious.

Bring on the revolution

I don't think the poofter marriage votes were rigged.
It proved how powerful propaganda can be to
convince people to vote for it.

Even the homosexual and lesbian couples I know voted against it.

I know of less that 5% of the people I know who voted for it.

Why on gods earth would any grubberment hold an informal vote?
I'll tell you why
Because if it were formal, it woukd have to be honest.

And if it were honest there would have been a totally different outcome.

[Bobby]

Even the homosexual and lesbian couples I know voted against it.

I know of less that 5% of the people I know who voted for it.

Why on gods earth would any grubberment hold an informal vote?
I'll tell you why
Because if it were formal, it woukd have to be honest.

And if it were honest there would have been a totally different outcome.

No - I trust the vote - people are well brainwashed.

[The4thEstate]

ID card privacy is certainly a concern for me. But at this point I'm more concerned about states that allow people to vote WITHOUT ID cards.

How much easier could it be to skew an election than to not even require people to prove who they are, where they live, or whether they're even U.S. citizens?

Don't think the Democrats aren't aware of that when they complain that requiring voter ID "disenfranchises" minorities.

And remember all their sobbing about the Trump administration "separating children from their parents at the border"?

Don't kid yourself. The Obama administration did the same thing. But now Democrats embrace open borders because Third World immigrants are more likely to vote Democrat. That's because Dem states give illegal immigrants lots of freebies, such as state healthcare and other government assistance, hoping to turn the growing Hispanic population into their next voting plantation.

Remember this whenever you hear Democrats boohooing about Trump being "xenophobic" or "un-American" for not allowing the U.S. to become a Third World spillway. And especially when they cry crocodile tears about "the children." It always adds up to one goal and one goal only: Power.