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Re: The impeachment inquiry

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:43 pm

Joe Biden exerted due pressure to have the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating his son sacked. He threatened to withhold loan guarantees. Once you can understand that get back to us.

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Re: The impeachment inquiry

Post by brian ross » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:23 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:43 pm
Joe Biden exerted due pressure to have the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating his son sacked. He threatened to withhold loan guarantees. Once you can understand that get back to us.

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The only person who appears decisional is yourself, Black Orchid. Joe Biden did not, as far as I know, do anything like that. That is Trumpite "fake news" created to attempt to discredit him. Trump actually did withhold military aid from Ukraine. Some 400 million dollars worth apparently. :roll:
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Re: The impeachment inquiry

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:18 pm

As far as I am aware the transcript shows no quid pro quo no matter which way you wish to spin it.

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Re: The impeachment inquiry

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:00 pm

John Solomon. The video is only 4.40 mins long.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... _2016.html

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Re: The impeachment inquiry

Post by brian ross » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:52 pm

In April 2019, The Hill published two opinion pieces by Solomon regarding allegations by Ukrainian officials that "American Democrats" and particularly former Vice-President Joe Biden of collaborating with "their allies in Kiev" in "wrongdoing...ranging from 2016 election interference to obstructing criminal probes."[26][27] Solomon's stories attracted attention in conservative media.[22] Fox News frequently covered Solomon's claims;[28] Solomon also promoted these allegations on Sean Heannity's Fox News show.[22] According to The Washington Post Solomon's pieces "played an important role in advancing a flawed, Trump-friendly tale of corruption in Ukraine, particularly involving Biden and his son Hunter", and inspired "the alleged effort by Trump and his allies to pressure Ukraine’s government into digging up dirt on Trump’s Democratic rivals."[22] On the same day that The Washington Post published its article, The Hill published another opinion piece by Solomon in which Solomon states that there are "(h)undreds of pages of never-released memos and documents...(that) conflict with Biden’s narrative."[29]

Solomon's stories had significant flaws.[22][19] Not only had the State Department dismissed the allegations presented by Solomon as "an outright fabrication", but the Ukrainian prosecutor who Solomon claimed made the allegations to him is not supporting Solomon's claim.[22][19] Foreign Policy noted that anti-corrupton activists in Ukraine had characterized the source behind Solomon's claims as an unreliable narrator who had hindered anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine.[30] Solomon pushed allegations that Biden wanted to remove a Ukrainian prosecutor in order to prevent an investigation of a Ukrainian company that his son, Hunter Biden, served on; however, Western governments and anti-corruption activist wanted the prosecutor removed because he was reluctant to pursue corruption investigations.[19] By September 2019, Solomon said he still stood 100% by his stories.[22] There is no evidence of wrong-doing by Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, and no evidence that Hunter Biden was ever under investigation by Ukrainian authorities.[31] WNYC characterized Solomon's Ukraine stories as laundering of foreign propaganda.[32]

Prior to the publication of a story where Solomon alleged that the Obama administration had pressured the Ukrainian government to stop investigating a group funded by George Soros, Solomon sent the full text of his report to Ukrainian-American businessman Lev Parnas and the two pro-Trump lawyers and conspiracy theorists Joseph diGenova and Victoria Toensing.[33] Solomon said he did so for fact-checking, but Parnas, DiGenova and Toensing were not mentioned in the text, nor did Solomon send individual items of the draft for vetting (but rather the whole draft).[33]
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Re: The impeachment inquiry

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Re: The impeachment inquiry

Post by sprintcyclist » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:12 am

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Re: The impeachment inquiry

Post by Redneck » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:51 am

A bit of Donalds so called fake news by the look of it !

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Re: The impeachment inquiry

Post by Black Orchid » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:41 pm

What is it exactly that you hate about him Red? He is doing what he was elected to do. Closing the borders (or trying to), creating jobs for more Americans and bringing the troops home, yet you seem to have a huge problem with that.

I honestly don't understand this blind hatred. If you aren't for open borders, more unemployment and sending more troops overseas to fight in the never ending Middle Eastern wars what exactly is your problem?

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Re: The impeachment inquiry

Post by Black Orchid » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:42 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:00 pm
How is this fake Red?

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