The Left's Campaign to Silence Opposing Views

[Neferti]

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[Black Orchid]

[Bogan]

Brian wrote

People can support which ever political ideology they want, Bogan. I don't claim that the Left has all the answers, any more I'd hope that you don't claim that the Right has them either.

That is rubbish, Brian, You claim that you are anti racist, yet you have been careless and made racist statements against white people. I have half a dozen now, but I only needed one. And only a few days ago you made another racist statement indirectly approving of the racist "one drop rule" when applied to "aboriginal" entitlement. Your position has always been to oppose the interests of the white race, no matter what. And to always blame the white race for the dysfunctions of every dysfunctional race, when you already know that the real problem these races have is their low collective intelligence, and their genetic predisposition to violent behaviour.

That was why I as a young man turned away from Leftism. I recognised the racist sentiments that the Left had towards white people and I recognised the essential irrationality of Leftist thought. But that does not mean that I go along with everything the Right says or proposes. Because I recognise that there are people with Absolutist mindsets like yourself, in both the Right and the Left camps. Once it was the Right who were The Establishment and who had most of the power, and they used that power to maintain their grip on power to the point that they were promoting policies which the majority of electors opposed. Now it is the Left that is The Establishment, and they are doing exactly the same thing that the Right once did. Except from my perspective, they are worse and more blatant oppressors than the Right.

The fight between Communism and Fascism is class warfare, between two groups of people from two different classes who believe in totalitarianism, but who only differ in who's class should have total control. I am opposed to both groups of totalitarians.

Brian wrote

What I do know is that people like you, with your blind allegiance to one side of politics is what is destroying real debate in Australia

It is people like you who hate the white western democracies that you prefer to live in, who oppose the interests of your own people as a form of fashion statement displaying class loyalty, who are racist towards your own race, who still hanker for a leftist system of totalitarianism that failed miserably in every single country that ever tried it, and who oppose free speech because their leftist logic is bankrupt, who are the ones destroying real debate in Australia.

[brian ross]

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Your attempts to embarrass me are pointless, Bogan. However you stick to the subject. Does the Left (ie the whole Left) attempt to silence opposing views or does the Right or do elements of both do it? Ball is now in your court. Speak to the topic.

[Black Orchid]

It's the mantra of the 'progressive' left.

[brian ross]

It's the mantra of the 'progressive' left.

It is the mantra of the regressive right.

[Bogan]

To Brian

As a leftist, you can hardly be accused of being an advocate for free speech when you own your own failed online debate site, which failed because you would not allow free speech.

When mainstream journalist Henry Bolt was prosecuted for writing an article questioning whether part aboriginals, (especially those with blond hair, blue eyes and white skin) could reasonably be considered aborigines at all, every clear thinking member of the public who were genuinely concerned with political matters, became seriously alarmed. Even some prominent Lefties wrote articles in the "Opinions" section of the "the Australian" newspaper denouncing the court's decision and supporting Bolt's right to free speech. . At least there are some intelligent lefties around that still adhere to the traditional leftist support for free speech. Unfortunately, intelligent lefties are almost a contradiction in terms, and they appear to be very much in a minority. As usual, political censorship had the opposite effect, when Bolt became so popular that he ended up hosting his own TV show where he kicked the crap out of lefties. Such a program, where a right wing host promoting a right wing prime time TV show would have been considered impossible only twenty years ago. It is a measure of how far the left has fallen in the eyes of white, working class and middle class people.

In the case of visiting speakers advocating causes opposed by the Left, they have been very successful in stopping or delaying overseas speakers from speaking in Australia. Hirsan Ali, Geert Weelders, Milo Yianopoulos, and Tomi Lahren have all been hindered, had their meetings disrupted, and in the cae of Tomi Lehren she was charged 50,000 dollars by the Victorian Police for protecting her against leftists who opposed her free speech.

Then there is the fascist antics of the ANTIFA brownshrits who have carried out arson and other violent attacks on meeting halls in universities, evens straight out attacks on people wearing MAGA hats. Then there was the case of the Democratic black millionaire race baiter Maxine Waters speech, where she declared that leftists should attack republicans where every they were. That resulted in the famous incident where some of Trump's most prominent supporters and their family members were refused service in a restaurant, and then they were hounded through the streets by an angry mob.

Next came the disgraceful campaign by homosexuals to stop free speech on the subject of sodomite "marriage." A Christian religious leader in Tasmania was threatened with prosecution for doing nothing more than circulating flyers to his own parishioners stating his church's opposition to sodomite "marriage." Convention centres hosting anti sodomite "marriage" were threatened with callers promising violent attacks by rioters, so the managers cancelled already booked meetings. Even a friendly debate by a supporter and a opponent of sodomite "marriage" featuring two speakers sipping beer, had the hysterical left threatening to boycott the beer's brewery, who had nothing at all to do with the debate.

Next came the prosecution by the Left wing Human Rights and Equal Opportunities Commission of five QUT university students who had the temerity to write five very mild criticisms of them being thrown out of an "indigenous only" study room because their skin was the wrong colour. That a left wing government funded organisation, who's remit for existence is the protection of freedom of speech, could do such an outrage, displayed to the politically a astute just how out of control the Left was becoming in Australia and around the world.

Now, did any prominent member of the Labor Party or the Greens denounce any of these outrages against free speech? Of course not.

That is why your causes are collapsing, Brian. You are between a rock and a hard place. Your arguments are logically bankrupt, and the only way that you can protect your values is through censorship and oppression. You have become the Establishment determined to keep your privileges, and the privileges of your minority group supporters, by shutting up your opponents. You have become what you fought against in your youth.

You need to brainwash the youth and you are doing a god job of it. But kids grow up and the smarter ones begin to realise that they are being conned. The dumb ones never do. They are your supporters.

[brian ross]

As I have said before, Bogan, Australians do not have a right to Freedom of Speech. Furthermore, you appear to mistake being impolite with Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk.

[Valkie]

Don't you ever get sick of tisk tisking when ever you lose an argument?

Don't you ever get sick to DEATH of insulting people and using the same old mantras when you have been proven wrong?

I know we all are.
Sick to death of your pointless, racist statements, bwyannnnnnnn

[Nom De Plume]

As I have said before, Bogan, Australians do not have a right to Freedom of Speech. Furthermore, you appear to mistake being impolite with Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk.

Don't you ever get sick of tisk tisking when ever you lose an argument?

Don't you ever get sick to DEATH of insulting people and using the same old mantras when you have been proven wrong?

I know we all are.
Sick to death of your pointless, racist statements, bwyannnnnnnn

So, Valkie, do we have a right to speak freely or not? Should we have that right, if no such right exists?