Indigenous People

[brian ross]

When you cite a scientific paper that has been peer reviewed and has been published in a widely recognise scientific journal that proves the existence, Genetically, of the concept of "race", I will listen to you, Bogan. However, you haven't and you won't be able to. What you believe in is Eugenics and we all know who were the most famous proponents of that Pseudo-Science, now don't we?

[Bogan]

What a miserable reply, Briney.

You claim that races are equal, but you have yet to submit a single argument to support your position. All you can do is attack my posts using whatever rubbish comes to mind. This is a debate site. Simply demanding that your opponent must submit a peer reviewed scientific paper supporting his position, is not going to convince anybody that you know what you are talking about. Your position dishonestly assumes that your position is scientifically valid, but mine is not. That I must prove my points, but you need not prove yours.

OK, lets imagine that you and I are standing on a stage in front of an audience of impartial people. I stand up and give a speech giving the reasons why I think that races are not equal. I give examples. I make reasonable premises which are logical and which the audience can follow.

Then you stand up and simply make a declaration that race does not exist because "there is only one race, the human race. Other than that parrot like slogan, you refuse to submit any reasoned argument as to why races are equal. The only thing that you can do is to attack some selection of my argument and run with it.

Who do you think they are going to believe, Brian? The person who is not afraid to use reasoned arguments that the audience can follow? Or the person who is afraid to use reasoned arguments, and just blusters, prevaricates, makes unsupported declarations, and stands on his dignity?

The fact that you are not prepared to present a reasoned argument supporting your peculiar position looks very much to me because you know yourself that I am right and you are wrong. The question then begs, why are you pushing a position you know is a lie? If I had to guess, it is because your world saving ideology insists on it because in order to work it has to regard all people races are equal.

You are just like the 19th century priests who knew that Darwin was right, but who opposed "Origin of Species" because they were committed to a diametrically opposed ideology. They knew that Darwin's explanation would reduce the public's belief in the existence of God. And some priests genuinely worried about losing souls. But others were more into the realisation that if people stopped believing in God, then it would reduce the Church's power, prestige, and finances, which would reduce their own personnel power, prestige and finances.

That is the position that I think that you are in. You know that races are not equal but your power, prestige and finances, depend on pushing a lie, to the detriment of your country and community. You rationalise your self interest by convincing yourself that you are saving the world.

[brian ross]

Wrong thread, Bogan. This thread is about Indigenous People. You want the other thread (amongst so many that you have created) which is called, "Are Races Equal?" You're all over the place, mate. Can't you keep yourself confined to one thread or are you too busy showing your antipathy towards me to notice?

[Bogan]

Hey, no problemo, Briny.

I will chase you anywhere. I know that wherever you go, you are not going submit an argument that all races are equal, because you know yourself that they are not. You know that you can not think up any argument to support your claim, that I will not pick apart and destroy. You will just keep on with your sneery one liners and your question dodging.

The question you are dodging, right now, is why Brian? Why are you pushing an ideology which you know is untrue? The only answers I can figure out is self interest. And by that I mean your own personnel self interest and your class self interest. Too many public servants have good jobs in the "Department of Aboriginal Affairs", a racist department that is the only department dedicated to looking after the interests of one particular race. Then come the middle class part aborigines like Larissa Berhrendt who are also doing nicely, than you very much. So much so, that when the Liberal government supported by Labor realised that too much of the fabulous sum of $33 billion was sticking to the palms of intermediaries and not getting through to the camps, where the woman and kids were in real trouble, and organised the "intervention", Larissa Behrendt, who grew up in seaside Gymea, savagely attacked Bess Price, who supported the "intervention" and grew up in a humpy.

The funniest thing about this whole tragedy, is that the trendy left are the bad guys, who are only interested in their own self interest, who go around pretending to be the good guys who are the font of all that is good and holy. You are all Elmer Gantry's, presenting to the public the face of virtue while looking after your own interests. And that is why you lie, Brian. And that is why you won't debate this subject on it's merits, because you know that if you did, I would be all over you like a rash.