Dutton deports kiwi criminals

[Neferti]

I am wondering if Ardern will deport Tarrant once he has served his sentence...

That is a very good point. I'd ship him out as soon as he is convicted, special door to door delivery to Peter Dutton, Parliament House, Canberra, ACT.

Dutton doesn't live at Parliament House in Canberra! Send Tarrant to him up in Queensland or wherever Dutton lives. We don't want him or the Pollies.

[BigP]

I doubt he will ever leave an NZ prison,,

[Black Orchid]

He's up on more than 90 charges and I doubt he will ever leave NZ too.

[Juliar]

And Dutto has just kicked out the 3rd leaky boat of Labor's Country Shopping Illegal Invaders back to Sri Lanka.

They were sprung last Sunday.

Gosh this would NEVER have happened if Labor had gotten in and RESTARTED the BOATS!!!!

[Bogan]

Not correct, BP.

Nobody has a clue how many guns even exist in Australia because for most of our history, records were never kept. But Howard's government consulted a gypsy clairvoyant and she came up with 2.75 million to 3.5 million self loading rifles and pump action shotguns to be handed in. The total score after the gun buyback was 680,000 which means that there are MILLIONS of illegal guns out there. Subsequent "amnesties" have seen tens of thousands more handed in, mainly from deceased estates. But the fact remains that millions of illegal guns reside in hidden spaces, under floorboards, barns, agricultural equipment, within wall cavities, and buried underground, completely out of the reach of the government and it's disarmers.

The interesting thing is that almost none of these weapons have been used in any criminal enterprise. That means that these weapons are in safe hands, held by mainly white men who distrust their governments and who consider the possession of a military weapon to be a patriotic thing to do. Especially as our own military today has less rifles in armouries than we did in 1939, when our population was 7 million and we ran out of rifles during the war.

After Dunkirk, when the BEF lost most of their weapons, the British government appealed to sportsmen of the USA to surrender their military rifles to Britain so that the British had something to use to repel a German invasion. If you ever watched the old TV series DAD"S ARMY, you might have noticed that the actors in that show were actually using American Enfield rifles from America, which is historically correct as it was the rifle that the British home guard did use at the time.

Here in Australia we had the infamous Brisbane Line where the people who lived outside that line were told that there towns and farms were not worth defending. So it is not surprising that a lot of opposition to the gun buyback came from areas north and west of Brisbane. One of the reasons why Japan did not invade Australia is because the Japanese army considered Australians to be a warrior race like the Boers, where every man had a rifle, could live of the land, and was a crack shot. The truth was that by 1944 we had run out of rifles and Australia's own home guard were training with wooden rifles. Some of those wooden rifles are on display in the Singleton Infantry Museum. Incidentally, the japs sent a military attaché to Australia to investigate the idea of arming aborigines to fight against the white man. The attaché reported to Tokyo that Australian aborigines "would not even make good slaves."

Another reason why Australian men will not surrender our guns is because the Australian defence department are all idiots. They bought the "Tiger" helicopter gunship which crashed into Sydney harbour during it's demonstration flight, and all of these execrable helicopters that we were stupid enough to buy have now all bene grounded, because they are considered too dangerous to fly by their own crews. Somebody should have been shot for that, and I don't mean that hypothetically. We tried to sell off our Chinook helicoptors until we found that they were absolutely essential in Afghanistan. The Defence acquisitions managed to convince Bob Hawk that the sale of the Invincible aircraft carrier to Australia should be scrapped because "aircraft carriers are obsolete." Today, everybody seems to be building aircraft carriers, including Britain, France, Turkey and China. We keep scuttling our "obsolete" FFG frigates when these magnificent ships are being re commissioned into the US Navy because they are just so good. Australia bought the F-18 fighter who's performance was so disappointing that the US Navy almost cancelled the contract. We refused to buy the magnificent F-15 at $18 million each because it was "too expensive" and instead bought the much inferior F-18 at $25 million dollars each. Once again, somebody should have been shot for that.

[sprintcyclist]

And Dutto has just kicked out the 3rd leaky boat of Labor's Country Shopping Illegal Invaders back to Sri Lanka.

They were sprung last Sunday.

Gosh this would NEVER have happened if Labor had gotten in and RESTARTED the BOATS!!!!

Well done Dutton

[BigP]

Bogan, Reading "war and Peace" from cover to cover would take less time than reading your posts lol

[Bogan]

I am sorry if your attention span is the same as a gnat. I write my posts to appeal to those who wish to be informed and that obviously does not include you. Perhaps you would be better off registering for Brian Ross's own "Debate and Relate" site? It is so politically correct and so boring that it can't attract anybody other than a few New Matilda caste offs who want to strut and preen and virtue signal. it is so boring that Brian has to come onto this site to get some action.

[BigP]

I am sorry if your attention span is the same as a gnat. I write my posts to appeal to those who wish to be informed and that obviously does not include you. Perhaps you would be better off registering for Brian Ross's own "Debate and Relate" site? It is so politically correct and so boring that it can't attract anybody other than a few New Matilda caste offs who want to strut and preen and virtue signal. it is so boring that Brian has to come onto this site to get some action.

Nothing to do with gnats, a mans life span is only 4 score in 10,,lol

[brian ross]

Not correct, BP.

Nobody has a clue how many guns even exist in Australia because for most of our history, records were never kept. But Howard's government consulted a gypsy clairvoyant and she came up with 2.75 million to 3.5 million self loading rifles and pump action shotguns to be handed in. The total score after the gun buyback was 680,000 which means that there are MILLIONS of illegal guns out there. Subsequent "amnesties" have seen tens of thousands more handed in, mainly from deceased estates. But the fact remains that millions of illegal guns reside in hidden spaces, under floorboards, barns, agricultural equipment, within wall cavities, and buried underground, completely out of the reach of the government and it's disarmers.

Who cares? If they hidden, they are out of reach of their owners as well, Bogan. What you appear to have missed is that the new laws make possession and use of such weapons illegal. Whenever the Police raid a property for drugs or stolen goods they invariably turn up illegal firearms. If they weren't illegal, those firearms would remain in the possession of the criminals. So silly, hey to pass laws that make it easier for the Police to charge possessors and confiscate weapons.

The interesting thing is that almost none of these weapons have been used in any criminal enterprise. That means that these weapons are in safe hands, held by mainly white men who distrust their governments and who consider the possession of a military weapon to be a patriotic thing to do. Especially as our own military today has less rifles in armouries than we did in 1939, when our population was 7 million and we ran out of rifles during the war.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. How many firearms do you think the ADF has, Bogan?

We have far more than we had in 1941, I can assure you of that. We have considerably more military equipment than we owned in 1965 when we went off to Vietnam. You would not believe how big the War Stock holdings are. The Australian Army has more than three to four times it's present requirements in virtually every piece of equipment (except MBTs).

After Dunkirk, when the BEF lost most of their weapons, the British government appealed to sportsmen of the USA to surrender their military rifles to Britain so that the British had something to use to repel a German invasion. If you ever watched the old TV series DAD"S ARMY, you might have noticed that the actors in that show were actually using American Enfield rifles from America, which is historically correct as it was the rifle that the British home guard did use at the time.

Here in Australia we had the infamous Brisbane Line where the people who lived outside that line were told that there towns and farms were not worth defending. So it is not surprising that a lot of opposition to the gun buyback came from areas north and west of Brisbane. One of the reasons why Japan did not invade Australia is because the Japanese army considered Australians to be a warrior race like the Boers, where every man had a rifle, could live of the land, and was a crack shot. The truth was that by 1944 we had run out of rifles and Australia's own home guard were training with wooden rifles. Some of those wooden rifles are on display in the Singleton Infantry Museum. Incidentally, the japs sent a military attaché to Australia to investigate the idea of arming aborigines to fight against the white man. The attaché reported to Tokyo that Australian aborigines "would not even make good slaves."

Oh, dearie, dearie me, the old Brisbane Line myth. Not again. There never was a strategy based on the idea of a line of defence going from approximately Brisbane to Adelaide. This was proved post-war in the Royal Commission which was created to investigate Eddie Ward's claims on the matter.

Australia lack rifles in 1941-42. By 1944 all inadequacies had been made up. The weapons displayed in the Singleton Infantry Museum date from approximately 1941-42, not 1944. Indeed, we had more than sufficient firearms by 1943 that we were equipping the New Zealand Army and the Pacific Islands Regiment - a foreign force made up of Pacific Islanders and sending SMGs to the UK forces in Burma.

The Japanese Army decided not to invade Australia because they were over-committed in China and the Imperial Japanese Navy who was in favour of invading Australia could not assure the IJA of the necessary supplies and protection while they were attempting to occupy a continent about 1.5x the size of mainland China. The IJA did not have the forces available. There was no reference to Australians being a "warrior race" or any other such bullshit.

I think you're relying far too much on your old firearms magazine articles. I would recommend to you a copy of A.T.Ross. Armed & ready : the industrial development & defence of Australia, 1900-1945, which goes into considerable detail about Australian defence industries.

Another reason why Australian men will not surrender our guns is because the Australian defence department are all idiots. They bought the "Tiger" helicopter gunship which crashed into Sydney harbour during it's demonstration flight, and all of these execrable helicopters that we were stupid enough to buy have now all bene grounded, because they are considered too dangerous to fly by their own crews. Somebody should have been shot for that, and I don't mean that hypothetically. We tried to sell off our Chinook helicoptors until we found that they were absolutely essential in Afghanistan. The Defence acquisitions managed to convince Bob Hawk that the sale of the Invincible aircraft carrier to Australia should be scrapped because "aircraft carriers are obsolete." Today, everybody seems to be building aircraft carriers, including Britain, France, Turkey and China. We keep scuttling our "obsolete" FFG frigates when these magnificent ships are being re commissioned into the US Navy because they are just so good. Australia bought the F-18 fighter who's performance was so disappointing that the US Navy almost cancelled the contract. We refused to buy the magnificent F-15 at $18 million each because it was "too expensive" and instead bought the much inferior F-18 at $25 million dollars each. Once again, somebody should have been shot for that.

There is no evidence in Google of any Tiger Helicopter crash in Sydney or any other Australian harbour. On 19 February 1998 there was a crash, into a hill, near Townsville during a night test flight. On 11 June 2019 a Tiger helicopter hits power lines north of Oakey in Queensland. Tigers are not grounded and are flying.

Chinooks were sold off because of the internecine tussle between the RAAF and Army over who should control them. The RAAF decided they didn't want them and the Army decided they didn't want them. The Government stepped in and told the two services to stop acting like children and the RAAF was forced to accept them. The RAAF's nose had been out of joint because of the wholesale move of the medium helicopter forces from their possession to the Army's in keeping with the revised management of helicopter assets brought about by the 1986 Defence White Paper - something the Army had wanted since the Vietnam War.

I have already address your claims WRT the FFGs in another thread. They are old, worn out ships. The RAN has replaced them. QED.

I have already addressed your claims WRT to the F/A-18 versus the F-15 in another thread.

Your information is mostly out of date and based upon erroneous myths. Run along.