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Texan
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Re: El Paso mass murder

Post by Texan » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:41 pm

cods wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:37 pm
BigP wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:27 am
cods wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:35 am
Texan wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:38 am
My factory ordered Kimber had a blemish on the barrel when I disassembled it for initial cleaning. I sent it to Kimber and received it back 7 days later. It was filthy because they test fired it, but it works flawlessly and I think the trigger is lighter. I’m guessing around 4.5 lbs instead of the original 6. I carry IWB in a kydex holster.

I got the 2 tone with Hogue rubber grips. I changed the grips to SGM green and black G-10 grips. My Kahr had Hogue grips and I wanted a different feel. This is my grips on a very similar gun. I have the 7 rd extended magazines.

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gosh you must feel very brave holding that!
From my own experience Cods, the feeling is more "God like" lol


that I can believe :roll: and the bragging rights of course.. mine is bigger than yours type of thing..

armed to the teeth makes Americans happy yet not one person has a gun in a shopping centre or a dance hall.. to protect themselves with
\
which is their main reason for being armed to the teeth.......protection!!! maybe thats only against unarmed baddies.

I have never seen a mass shooter killed by one of the persons he was trying to kill....

its always been at his own hand or a policemans...

none of it makes sense to me.
Most mass shootings are in gun free zones. I’m not there.

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Re: El Paso mass murder

Post by cods » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:47 am

Texan wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:41 pm
cods wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:37 pm
BigP wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:27 am
cods wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:35 am
Texan wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:38 am
My factory ordered Kimber had a blemish on the barrel when I disassembled it for initial cleaning. I sent it to Kimber and received it back 7 days later. It was filthy because they test fired it, but it works flawlessly and I think the trigger is lighter. I’m guessing around 4.5 lbs instead of the original 6. I carry IWB in a kydex holster.

I got the 2 tone with Hogue rubber grips. I changed the grips to SGM green and black G-10 grips. My Kahr had Hogue grips and I wanted a different feel. This is my grips on a very similar gun. I have the 7 rd extended magazines.

Image
gosh you must feel very brave holding that!
From my own experience Cods, the feeling is more "God like" lol


that I can believe :roll: and the bragging rights of course.. mine is bigger than yours type of thing..

armed to the teeth makes Americans happy yet not one person has a gun in a shopping centre or a dance hall.. to protect themselves with
\
which is their main reason for being armed to the teeth.......protection!!! maybe thats only against unarmed baddies.

I have never seen a mass shooter killed by one of the persons he was trying to kill....

its always been at his own hand or a policemans...

none of it makes sense to me.
Most mass shootings are in gun free zones. I’m not there.




GUN FREE ZONE.....


now I have heard of everything...


do maniacs take notice of signs reading

GUN FREE ZONE.?


wow and they call Amerika the clever country. :rofl :rofl

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Re: El Paso mass murder

Post by BigP » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:01 am

cods wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:47 am
Texan wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:41 pm
cods wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:37 pm
BigP wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:27 am
cods wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:35 am


gosh you must feel very brave holding that!
From my own experience Cods, the feeling is more "God like" lol


that I can believe :roll: and the bragging rights of course.. mine is bigger than yours type of thing..

armed to the teeth makes Americans happy yet not one person has a gun in a shopping centre or a dance hall.. to protect themselves with
\
which is their main reason for being armed to the teeth.......protection!!! maybe thats only against unarmed baddies.

I have never seen a mass shooter killed by one of the persons he was trying to kill....

its always been at his own hand or a policemans...

none of it makes sense to me.
Most mass shootings are in gun free zones. I’m not there.




GUN FREE ZONE.....


now I have heard of everything...


do maniacs take notice of signs reading

GUN FREE ZONE.?


wow and they call Amerika the clever country. :rofl :rofl

Cods, all countries have laws. criminals choose to ignore them

cods
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Re: El Paso mass murder

Post by cods » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:36 am

you mean GUN FREE ZONEs only applies to non crims... :rofl :rofl

got it..

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Re: El Paso mass murder

Post by Texan » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:18 am

cods wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:36 am
you mean GUN FREE ZONEs only applies to non crims... :rofl :rofl

got it..
It does. If I break the law and carry a gun where I am not allowed, wouldn't I also be a criminal? I simply avoid those areas and the vast majority of mass shootings happen in those areas because the shooter knows that his targets will more likely be unarmed. It's common sense.

If a private business owner demands that his customers be unarmed, he doesn't want my business. Very few businesses in Texas post the necessary signage to prevent me from legally concealing a gun in their store. They don't want to drive away customers. Many stores post a sign that is not legally binding just to appease people who are afraid of guns and don't know the law concerning concealed carry notification, but people with an LTC ignore those signs and we carry anyway in those stores. The stores are trying to play both sides and not alienate any of their customers. If I have options, I'll avoid those stores as well.

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Re: El Paso mass murder

Post by cods » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:39 am

Texan wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:18 am
cods wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:36 am
you mean GUN FREE ZONEs only applies to non crims... :rofl :rofl

got it..
It does. If I break the law and carry a gun where I am not allowed, wouldn't I also be a criminal? I simply avoid those areas and the vast majority of mass shootings happen in those areas because the shooter knows that his targets will more likely be unarmed. It's common sense.

If a private business owner demands that his customers be unarmed, he doesn't want my business. Very few businesses in Texas post the necessary signage to prevent me from legally concealing a gun in their store. They don't want to drive away customers. Many stores post a sign that is not legally binding just to appease people who are afraid of guns and don't know the law concerning concealed carry notification, but people with an LTC ignore those signs and we carry anyway in those stores. The stores are trying to play both sides and not alienate any of their customers. If I have options, I'll avoid those stores as well.
what you are saying is the Govt who makes those laws.... is a murderer....they are telling mr and Mrs Average oh yes you may buy any kind of weapon you want..... but please do not carry one on your person in a GUN FREE ZONE....

only mad criminals can do that! as we all know they dont obey anyone or any signs..

like I said ONLY IN AMERIKA>

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Re: El Paso mass murder

Post by BigP » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:12 am

cods wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:39 am
Texan wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:18 am
cods wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:36 am
you mean GUN FREE ZONEs only applies to non crims... :rofl :rofl

got it..
It does. If I break the law and carry a gun where I am not allowed, wouldn't I also be a criminal? I simply avoid those areas and the vast majority of mass shootings happen in those areas because the shooter knows that his targets will more likely be unarmed. It's common sense.

If a private business owner demands that his customers be unarmed, he doesn't want my business. Very few businesses in Texas post the necessary signage to prevent me from legally concealing a gun in their store. They don't want to drive away customers. Many stores post a sign that is not legally binding just to appease people who are afraid of guns and don't know the law concerning concealed carry notification, but people with an LTC ignore those signs and we carry anyway in those stores. The stores are trying to play both sides and not alienate any of their customers. If I have options, I'll avoid those stores as well.
what you are saying is the Govt who makes those laws.... is a murderer....they are telling mr and Mrs Average oh yes you may buy any kind of weapon you want..... but please do not carry one on your person in a GUN FREE ZONE....

only mad criminals can do that! as we all know they dont obey anyone or any signs..

like I said ONLY IN AMERIKA>
""like I said ONLY IN AMERIKA>""


Cods, where did the idiot that killed the mussies in Christchurch come from ?

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Re: El Paso mass murder

Post by cods » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:45 am

BigP wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:12 am
cods wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:39 am
Texan wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:18 am
cods wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:36 am
you mean GUN FREE ZONEs only applies to non crims... :rofl :rofl

got it..
It does. If I break the law and carry a gun where I am not allowed, wouldn't I also be a criminal? I simply avoid those areas and the vast majority of mass shootings happen in those areas because the shooter knows that his targets will more likely be unarmed. It's common sense.

If a private business owner demands that his customers be unarmed, he doesn't want my business. Very few businesses in Texas post the necessary signage to prevent me from legally concealing a gun in their store. They don't want to drive away customers. Many stores post a sign that is not legally binding just to appease people who are afraid of guns and don't know the law concerning concealed carry notification, but people with an LTC ignore those signs and we carry anyway in those stores. The stores are trying to play both sides and not alienate any of their customers. If I have options, I'll avoid those stores as well.
what you are saying is the Govt who makes those laws.... is a murderer....they are telling mr and Mrs Average oh yes you may buy any kind of weapon you want..... but please do not carry one on your person in a GUN FREE ZONE....

only mad criminals can do that! as we all know they dont obey anyone or any signs..

like I said ONLY IN AMERIKA>
""like I said ONLY IN AMERIKA>""


Cods, where did the idiot that killed the mussies in Christchurch come from ?

do we have DUMB ARSE LAWS that tell the people this is a GUN FREE ZONE..after giving them all permission to buy as many guns as they wish.

knowing full well the maniacs that go on mass killing sprees totally ignore those rules... :roll: :roll: :roll: ..


as far as I know NZ doesnt have daft rules like that either..

do you think the likes of tarrant would have taken any notice of GUN FREE ZONES?

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Re: El Paso mass murder

Post by Texan » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:08 am

Personally, I think that anybody who demands that people be unarmed should be held responsible for their safety. Guns in the hands of law abiding civilians should only be forbidden in jails, police stations, military bases, and courthouses. That's pretty much the law in Texas, but we also recognize private property rights and I have no problem with people setting their own rules on their own property. I am not required to go to someone's private property, so it's fair.

I like my job, so I don't carry into customer's sites. I'm a field engineer and I work at industrial sites and am dispatched from my house. I don't carry at school events or on federal property. Everywhere else is legal for me and I almost always carry there. It's more of a habit now and I hardly think about it.

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Re: El Paso mass murder

Post by Wally Raffles » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:50 pm

Texan wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:08 am
Personally, I think that anybody who demands that people be unarmed should be held responsible for their safety. Guns in the hands of law abiding civilians should only be forbidden in jails, police stations, military bases, and courthouses. That's pretty much the law in Texas, but we also recognize private property rights and I have no problem with people setting their own rules on their own property. I am not required to go to someone's private property, so it's fair.

I like my job, so I don't carry into customer's sites. I'm a field engineer and I work at industrial sites and am dispatched from my house. I don't carry at school events or on federal property. Everywhere else is legal for me and I almost always carry there. It's more of a habit now and I hardly think about it.
I do not understand. How can any property owner (say Walmart) overcome the right to bear arms as stated in the Consitution? Are the gun free zones just for voluntary compliance or is there some Law about it.

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