US illegals get the bill

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Re: US illegals get the bill

Post by FLEKTARN » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:29 am

Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:22 am
This is not about police it's about illegals and if Germany has such a great system of integration and it works so well (cough) how about taking a few more million that the west doesn't want. Take them all :thumb

This is not realistic. The welfare is being paid by the citizens. Taxes will go up and the economy will collapse if the numbers are rising indefinitely.
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Re: US illegals get the bill

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:33 am

FLEKTARN wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:29 am
Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:22 am
This is not about police it's about illegals and if Germany has such a great system of integration and it works so well (cough) how about taking a few more million that the west doesn't want. Take them all :thumb

This is not realistic. The welfare is being paid by the citizens. Taxes will go up and the economy will collapse if the numbers are rising indefinitely.
Saying that Germany is having no problems stemming from their massive muslim intake is not realistic. Merkel is an idiot and a warning to all. She is not an idol.

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Re: US illegals get the bill

Post by Texan » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:37 am

FLEKTARN wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:29 am
Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:22 am
This is not about police it's about illegals and if Germany has such a great system of integration and it works so well (cough) how about taking a few more million that the west doesn't want. Take them all :thumb

This is not realistic. The welfare is being paid by the citizens. Taxes will go up and the economy will collapse if the numbers are rising indefinitely.
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Re: US illegals get the bill

Post by sprintcyclist » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:25 am

Texan wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:37 am
FLEKTARN wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:29 am
Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:22 am
This is not about police it's about illegals and if Germany has such a great system of integration and it works so well (cough) how about taking a few more million that the west doesn't want. Take them all :thumb

This is not realistic. The welfare is being paid by the citizens. Taxes will go up and the economy will collapse if the numbers are rising indefinitely.
Welcome to my world.

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Re: US illegals get the bill

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:27 am

It would be like Australia having a common border with Indonesia. Catastrophic!

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Re: US illegals get the bill

Post by FLEKTARN » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:47 am

Texan wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:37 am
FLEKTARN wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:29 am
Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:22 am
This is not about police it's about illegals and if Germany has such a great system of integration and it works so well (cough) how about taking a few more million that the west doesn't want. Take them all :thumb

This is not realistic. The welfare is being paid by the citizens. Taxes will go up and the economy will collapse if the numbers are rising indefinitely.
Welcome to my world.

BUILD THE WALL

A wall means no Schengen area and that is not what Europe is about. Plus, it is too late. What wall, when the immigration to Cetran & Western Europe stopped in 2017...
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Re: US illegals get the bill

Post by FLEKTARN » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:51 am

Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:33 am
FLEKTARN wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:29 am
Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:22 am
This is not about police it's about illegals and if Germany has such a great system of integration and it works so well (cough) how about taking a few more million that the west doesn't want. Take them all :thumb

This is not realistic. The welfare is being paid by the citizens. Taxes will go up and the economy will collapse if the numbers are rising indefinitely.
Saying that Germany is having no problems stemming from their massive muslim intake is not realistic. Merkel is an idiot and a warning to all. She is not an idol.

Germany has problems like any other country, but comparing Germany's crime rate to Australia's or US's is not wise. Like I said, a robbery or two here, but nothing else. Things in Sweden and France are extreme, but as you can see I never mentioned those two. There are no gangs in Europe, and there are gangs in Australia. In Europe the organized crime is some small groups of youthsters. In Australia it's a whole gang operation called the Apex Gang with thousands of members. Here crime don't thrive because we personally take matters into our own hands and stop them in their tracks, while you people are too afraid to do something and you're naively waiting for the Government to do something. Pathetic, and lazy.
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Re: US illegals get the bill

Post by The4thEstate » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:58 am

FLEKTARN wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:58 am
The4thEstate wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:45 am
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:49 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:08 pm
The4thEstate wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:44 am
Trump has the right idea about migration -- which is to say, no one has a right to enter a sovereign country without permission.

I was happy when he withdrew the United States from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration. Sovereign Western nations have no obligation to assimilate Third World migrants. If we do anything, we should help them in their own countries.
I would be extremely happy if we withdrew from it too. Right now I have no clue if we are in or out. We are kept in the dark about this.
Australia abstained from voting for the Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration (GCM) on the basis that it “undermine Australia’s strong border protection laws and practices,” and would not sign it.

Of course, what that translated to was the the then Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnball, was very much in the thrall of the Dries in the Tories and couldn't dare to buck against their antediluvian views on Migration. :roll:
I also agree that we should be keeping them in their own countries and helping them there.
Help them or helping ourselves to their stuff, Black Orchid? Australia, unlike the US actually has a good reputation in this regard. The US OTOH has a bad one. Just look at Central America, South America, Europe, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc... :roll: :roll:
If by "bad reputation" you mean we don't transform ourselves from a sovereign nation into a Third World spillway, I'll take that as a compliment (although the Democrats would prefer open borders). We don't owe other nations' migrants a single thing.

Just ask native citizens of Sweden and Germany if their countries are better or worse since they threw their gates open to hundreds of thousands of Islamic refugees. For instance: https://www.thelocal.de/20161215/year-a ... ntegration

Hundreds of women that night described running a gauntlet of theft, groping and lewd insults in a crush of mainly Arab and north African men. Other German cities reported similar incidents during their end of year festivities.

Cologne police reports later revealed that of some 1,200 complaints filed about the incidents, over 500 were for sexual assault. Most of the perpetrators were never caught.


Gee, Angela, imagine that ... not every culture treats women as equals! Who knew?

Actually, 2 minutes on the internet would have told you that before you introduced this human virus into your country's bloodstream. And since they'll outbreed native Germans, I'd say your country's future is pretty much screwed.

Germany is not the USA. We integrate them here. We have different systems that actually work. We don't have violent crimes and 66 shootings a day like in the US. The German police shoots 2 people per year. The US police shoots 2,000 people biyearly.
You integrate them WHERE?

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Re: US illegals get the bill

Post by The4thEstate » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:03 am

FLEKTARN wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:51 am
There are no gangs in Europe, and there are gangs in Australia. In Europe the organized crime is some small groups of youthsters.
That's a joke, right?

Deutsche Welle: "Organized crime is active across Europe, with groups generating over €100 million in revenue every year."
https://www.dw.com/en/italian-mafia-bik ... 46602157-0

New York Times: "Hand Grenades and Gang Violence Rattle Sweden’s Middle Class"
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/worl ... nades.html

BBC:
"Sweden rape: Most convicted attackers foreign-born, says TV"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45269764

Gotta love that multiculturalism!

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Re: US illegals get the bill

Post by FLEKTARN » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:08 am

The4thEstate wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:03 am
FLEKTARN wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:51 am
There are no gangs in Europe, and there are gangs in Australia. In Europe the organized crime is some small groups of youthsters.
That's a joke, right?

Deutsche Welle: "Organized crime is active across Europe, with groups generating over €100 million in revenue every year."
https://www.dw.com/en/italian-mafia-bik ... 46602157-0

New York Times: "Hand Grenades and Gang Violence Rattle Sweden’s Middle Class"
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/worl ... nades.html

BBC:
"Sweden rape: Most convicted attackers foreign-born, says TV"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45269764

Gotta love that multiculturalism!

First, I never argued about Sweden. Situation there is pretty bad, but Sweden is a small country with less than 10 million people, while Europe's population is around 800 million people. Sweden is not Europe. And about the first article, you're posting an article about the Italian mafia. Are you stupid? If you are, you're a special kind of stupid. The Cosa Nostra and the Ndrangheta controlled the USA for more than 100 years and still have a significant amount of power there. I thought we were talking about refugee crime here, and you're posting me a link about the Italian mafia. What a fool... Mentioning multiculturalism and Italian-born gangsters in one post. What a dumbass. Did you not know that Italians are in fact White and Christian and they're native to Europe?
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