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Re: The bullshit thread

Post by billy the kid » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:24 pm

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Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:56 pm
Priorities...
Gender issues top Bonn climate summit

Australian officials attending ­climate change talks in Germany are being grilled on how the country is tackling global warming by addressing gender and ­indigenous issues.

In written questions to Aust­ralia about its climate change ­response, Canada has asked whether indigenous or traditional knowledge was taken into consideration in developing domestic policies or implementing measures to address climate change.

The federal government told representatives at the Bonn meeting that traditional knowledge and practices were highly valued.
“An indigenous carbon ­industry is growing from indig­enous Australians’ participation in the Emissions Reduction Fund and is providing a range of non-carbon benefits, such as an independent revenue stream and increasing indigenous ­employment,’’ the government said.

Australia was also asked for more detail “about the measures Australia implemented at the domestic level of mainstream gender considerations into its ­climate change policies”.

The federal government said “national momentum towards equal opportunity means that Australia’s climate policies ­operate in a context which both considers and implements ­responses to gender inequity”.

Most questions from other countries have been focused on how Australia accounts for its greenhouse gas emissions and whether extra permits from the Kyoto process would be used to meet the Paris target.

Australia has been criticised for its decision to use carry-over permits from Kyoto, even though the move has been adopt­ed by other countries, includin­g Britain.

The Bonn meeting seeks to finalise issues for the Paris Agreement that could not be completed at the UN Framework Convention on ­Climate Change meeting in Poland in ­December.

One sticking point has been how to deal with the Inter­governmental Panel on Climate Change report into 1.5C warming. Several countries, led by Saudi Arabia and Russia, refused to welcome the IPCC report in Poland, which instead was “noted” in the final commun­ique.

Saudi Arabia has reportedly continued to hold out in Bonn and it is possible that the report will be dropped as an item for UNFCCC discussions from next week.

The tone of the Bonn meeting was further undermined when EU governments failed to agree either on stronger targets to cut emissions or to set a 2050 deadline­ for the EU to be carbon ­neutral.

Rather than a declaration, the issue of carbon neutrality was relegated to a non-binding footnote in the final statement of an EU summit of EU leaders in Brussels, which finished yesterday.

The EU is split between ­Britain, France and Germany supporting the target, and ­Poland and other coal-dependent states rejecting it.
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https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation ... 7394ee1d91

It's shit like this that makes me support population control. :roll:
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a)What a load of fkn bullshit.....
b)What would the indigenous know about climate change...
apart from maybe the effect on the flight of a boomerang.... maybe some of their fkn
brain surgeons could answer that one....
c) How many of our moronic officals got to attend that junket...hopefully they got one way fkn tickets....
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Re: The bullshit thread

Post by The Reboot » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:55 pm

billy the kid wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:24 pm
The Reboot wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:56 pm
Priorities...
Gender issues top Bonn climate summit

Australian officials attending ­climate change talks in Germany are being grilled on how the country is tackling global warming by addressing gender and ­indigenous issues.

In written questions to Aust­ralia about its climate change ­response, Canada has asked whether indigenous or traditional knowledge was taken into consideration in developing domestic policies or implementing measures to address climate change.

The federal government told representatives at the Bonn meeting that traditional knowledge and practices were highly valued.
“An indigenous carbon ­industry is growing from indig­enous Australians’ participation in the Emissions Reduction Fund and is providing a range of non-carbon benefits, such as an independent revenue stream and increasing indigenous ­employment,’’ the government said.

Australia was also asked for more detail “about the measures Australia implemented at the domestic level of mainstream gender considerations into its ­climate change policies”.

The federal government said “national momentum towards equal opportunity means that Australia’s climate policies ­operate in a context which both considers and implements ­responses to gender inequity”.

Most questions from other countries have been focused on how Australia accounts for its greenhouse gas emissions and whether extra permits from the Kyoto process would be used to meet the Paris target.

Australia has been criticised for its decision to use carry-over permits from Kyoto, even though the move has been adopt­ed by other countries, includin­g Britain.

The Bonn meeting seeks to finalise issues for the Paris Agreement that could not be completed at the UN Framework Convention on ­Climate Change meeting in Poland in ­December.

One sticking point has been how to deal with the Inter­governmental Panel on Climate Change report into 1.5C warming. Several countries, led by Saudi Arabia and Russia, refused to welcome the IPCC report in Poland, which instead was “noted” in the final commun­ique.

Saudi Arabia has reportedly continued to hold out in Bonn and it is possible that the report will be dropped as an item for UNFCCC discussions from next week.

The tone of the Bonn meeting was further undermined when EU governments failed to agree either on stronger targets to cut emissions or to set a 2050 deadline­ for the EU to be carbon ­neutral.

Rather than a declaration, the issue of carbon neutrality was relegated to a non-binding footnote in the final statement of an EU summit of EU leaders in Brussels, which finished yesterday.

The EU is split between ­Britain, France and Germany supporting the target, and ­Poland and other coal-dependent states rejecting it.
Source:
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation ... 7394ee1d91

It's shit like this that makes me support population control. :roll:
:thumb
a)What a load of fkn bullshit.....
b)What would the indigenous know about climate change...
apart from maybe the effect on the flight of a boomerang.... maybe some of their fkn
brain surgeons could answer that one....
c) How many of our moronic officals got to attend that junket...hopefully they got one way fkn tickets....
Not just that but, what fucking business is it of theirs how our country is run in the first place?

I first saw this headlined on Sky News. I actually said to myself, "What the fuck? Gender a priority at a climate change summit, uh.. what?"

These leftist faggots are that retarded all they care about is... climate change, gender, black fluffy bunnies and how high they are on the oppression scale. :roll:

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Re: The bullshit thread

Post by billy the kid » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:02 pm

The Reboot wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:55 pm
billy the kid wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:24 pm
The Reboot wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:56 pm
Priorities...
Gender issues top Bonn climate summit

Australian officials attending ­climate change talks in Germany are being grilled on how the country is tackling global warming by addressing gender and ­indigenous issues.

In written questions to Aust­ralia about its climate change ­response, Canada has asked whether indigenous or traditional knowledge was taken into consideration in developing domestic policies or implementing measures to address climate change.

The federal government told representatives at the Bonn meeting that traditional knowledge and practices were highly valued.
“An indigenous carbon ­industry is growing from indig­enous Australians’ participation in the Emissions Reduction Fund and is providing a range of non-carbon benefits, such as an independent revenue stream and increasing indigenous ­employment,’’ the government said.

Australia was also asked for more detail “about the measures Australia implemented at the domestic level of mainstream gender considerations into its ­climate change policies”.

The federal government said “national momentum towards equal opportunity means that Australia’s climate policies ­operate in a context which both considers and implements ­responses to gender inequity”.

Most questions from other countries have been focused on how Australia accounts for its greenhouse gas emissions and whether extra permits from the Kyoto process would be used to meet the Paris target.

Australia has been criticised for its decision to use carry-over permits from Kyoto, even though the move has been adopt­ed by other countries, includin­g Britain.

The Bonn meeting seeks to finalise issues for the Paris Agreement that could not be completed at the UN Framework Convention on ­Climate Change meeting in Poland in ­December.

One sticking point has been how to deal with the Inter­governmental Panel on Climate Change report into 1.5C warming. Several countries, led by Saudi Arabia and Russia, refused to welcome the IPCC report in Poland, which instead was “noted” in the final commun­ique.

Saudi Arabia has reportedly continued to hold out in Bonn and it is possible that the report will be dropped as an item for UNFCCC discussions from next week.

The tone of the Bonn meeting was further undermined when EU governments failed to agree either on stronger targets to cut emissions or to set a 2050 deadline­ for the EU to be carbon ­neutral.

Rather than a declaration, the issue of carbon neutrality was relegated to a non-binding footnote in the final statement of an EU summit of EU leaders in Brussels, which finished yesterday.

The EU is split between ­Britain, France and Germany supporting the target, and ­Poland and other coal-dependent states rejecting it.
Source:
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation ... 7394ee1d91

It's shit like this that makes me support population control. :roll:
:thumb
a)What a load of fkn bullshit.....
b)What would the indigenous know about climate change...
apart from maybe the effect on the flight of a boomerang.... maybe some of their fkn
brain surgeons could answer that one....
c) How many of our moronic officals got to attend that junket...hopefully they got one way fkn tickets....
Not just that but, what fucking business is it of theirs how our country is run in the first place?

I first saw this headlined on Sky News. I actually said to myself, "What the fuck? Gender a priority at a climate change summit, uh.. what?"

These leftist faggots are that retarded all they care about is... climate change, gender, black fluffy bunnies and how high they are on the oppression scale. :roll:
:thumb
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Re: The bullshit thread

Post by Valkie » Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:03 am

No, we must consider the important aspects of climate change.

Things like how heating could affect the make up of indiginious gender swapping individuals and how this could frighten native animals.

Or how sequins could be making their way into food sources of homosexual aboriginal transvestites.

Perhaps the effect of high heel shoes while traversing the barren desert and how they could be destroying micro eco systems.

Then there is the important matter of how our aboriginal drunks can put their makeup on while drunk, we should provide additional paid (by the taxpayer) makeup artists to assist transvestite and homosexual abbos in applying makeup and getting into their sequined dresses.

Heaven forbid anyone actually look at the big picture and even consider world overpopulation.
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Re: The bullshit thread

Post by The Reboot » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:32 pm

Don't people use their brains any more? Another case of, "I'm a fuckwit. I have rights, so when I make a shitty decision I blame everybody else for it."
Telstra facing investigation over selling 'unaffordable contracts' to vulnerable Australians

The national consumer watchdog has launched an investigation into Telstra's sales practices, amid mounting reports vulnerable Indigenous Australians are being hit with "skyrocketing" bills.

In a rare move, the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) confirmed it was looking into whether Telstra breached consumer law — something that carries fines and penalties in the millions of dollars.

Financial counsellors say the mis-selling of phone contracts is "rife" and want the telco to be forced to run the same credit checks as banks.

The ABC has learned of dozens of examples across Australia of Telstra customers on Centrelink benefits being sold contracts costing as much as $250 a month.

On top of that, many of those customers are being hit with excess data charges and are running up bills worth thousands of dollars.

Broome financial counsellor Alan Gray said he blamed Telstra's head office.

"The problem is that Telstra have decided to instruct their sales staff to sign up poor people to unaffordable contracts that leave them with massive excess data bills," he said.

"Telstra don't seem to listen when people say 'I can't afford this'."

Young mum 'thought she was going to jail'

Caitlyn Roe, a 21-year-old mother, knows first-hand just how debilitating a Telstra debt can be.

Ms Roe dropped out of school in year nine, battled to overcome addiction and has never had ongoing work.
For years, she had a Telstra pre-paid phone. That changed when Telstra called her to say she was entitled to a "free" phone if she took out a contract.

She went into her local Telstra store in Broome and signed up to a plan, but she said no-one explained excess data charges.

"When I first started, I could pay it off. It was pretty easy," Ms Roe said.

"But using all that data — it skyrocketed. Some of the people who supported me spoke to Telstra to try and lower the price, but they said no.

"That was pretty difficult at the time because I was struggling with other stuff as well, like trying to feed my daughter."

Her bill escalated to nearly $2,200, before it was sold to a debt collection agency, which threatened to take her to court.

"I was a bit shocked you know, and I was stressing out to a point where I thought I was going to go to jail because I couldn't pay that amount," she said.

"I was struggling to pay the rent, get food for my daughter, plus with them stalking me, ringing me up every week, especially on days [that] I was pretty tense.

"I was not in the mood to talk to them and I'd tell them I'd come in and put $100 on the bill .... I wasn't able to pay the amount they wanted."

Telstra consumer and business executive Michael Ackland apologised "unreservedly" to Ms Roe and said there were some "process break-downs" in her case.

"Certainly the way that she was dealt with in terms of the steps that were gone through is not the intent of our process," he said.

"In fact, there was a specific error made by us when a debt waiver had been approved already internally, that was not processed correctly and therefore the debt ended up resulting in that letter and the collections outcome."

He said products the company sold now "largely do not have excess data charges".

"That is something we've taken out of the market because that was a particular concern," he said.
Telstra bills are a 'huge' problem

The ABC has spoken to other customers who were too ashamed of their Telstra debt to go public.

ne woman who lives on welfare in the community of Ardyaloon, 200 kilometres north of Broome, showed the ABC her Telstra bill worth more than $7,800.

"It was so stressful trying to get that bill sorted, thinking I had to pay that money," she said.

The ABC has been shown an outstanding bill of $6,582 for another Telstra customer. Both debts were waived when financial counsellors intervened.

Ardyaloon elder Irene Davey said people should be able to change their contract if they could not afford it, as community members were getting caught out because data was not being "properly explained".

"If I go and buy a pair of shoes and it doesn't fit, I should be able to bring it back and say I want to change [it]," she said.

"Anything you should be able to go back and say 'this doesn't work for me'. That's the flexible thing that should happen."

Mother Jody Wiggan from the nearby community of Djarindjin said Telstra was a "huge" problem there too.

"Lots of my sister's kids, they've done that — bought iPhones and whatnot — and my first cousins," she said.

"It's just an everlasting payment, an ongoing payment, and they don't know when it's going to stop."
What is Telstra up to?

Financial counsellors working in remote and disadvantaged areas are fed up with Telstra.

The ABC has been told there are clusters of customers being mis-sold products in SA, WA, NT, Queensland, NSW and Victoria.

"What started as a dribble of one or two clients has turned into a flood of people coming in with the same story every month," Mr Gray said.

"They wander into the Telstra store, they want a simple flip phone or their phone repaired, the sales staff upsell them or pressure them into these big two-year contracts of $200 a month.

"My client walks out of the store thinking the $200 will pay for everything but to their horror a month or two later, they get a bill in the mail for $2,000 or $3,000, or even $4,000 of excess data."

n many cases the debt is then onsold to a debt collection agency, which threatens legal action.

One consumer advocate has told the ABC there is a "tonne of mis-selling around Australia" of phone plans by Telstra and describes the problem as "systemic".

Last year Mr Gray managed to get Telstra to waive 26 customers' debt, worth more than $100,000 to the company, after lodging a joint complaint.

"Since we had that massive debt waiver, we've had lots of negotiations with Telstra executives, lots of discussions," he said.

"I thought that once they saw the impact they were having on some of the most disadvantaged people in our community, I naively thought they would change their practices.

"But what they did was, the senior executives blamed the sales staff, but have refused to reform their policies."

He said no proper checks were made on the customer's capacity to pay the contract, and in many cases they defaulted and became liable for the entire cost of the contract.

"What's happening time and time again is that my clients don't have it explained to them that on top of the monthly contract fee, this is how excess data works," Mr Gray said.

"Nobody turns on the tablet and says if you watch movie after movie, you'll break your budget."

Mr Ackland said the company had been working hard to improve the way it dealt with vulnerable customers.

"We see customers in all different stages of vulnerability, whether that's disability, language, where they live and remoteness … as well as financial and other things," he said.

"We do our absolute best to put processes in place to make sure that we treat them fairly, but it doesn't always work. We don't pick up every case.

"Sometimes things do go wrong, but we've done a lot of work and put in a lot of processes to make sure that we're dealing as fairly as we possibly can with all kinds of vulnerability."
Counsellors want Telstra treated like a credit provider

While the banking royal commission revealed high-pressure sales tactics in the insurance industry, the telecommunications industry escaped scrutiny.

In February, a telco industry watchdog investigation found poor sales practices and a culture of putting profits ahead of consumers was driving up consumer debt, leaving people struggling to pay their bills.

The Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman's (TIO) report found staff were more focused on achieving sales than assessing whether a product was suitable for consumers.

Mr Gray said if Telstra was treated as a credit provider, it would be required to conduct more thorough checks and balances when customers were taking out a contract.

"Our view is Telstra should commit to the responsible lending obligations of the National Consumer Credit Protection Act and they can do that by committing to that in the telco code of practice," he said.

Mr Ackland said Telstra was "open" to suggestions and was working with industry groups.

"We're very open to looking at all ways in which we can improve our processes, but something that's right for the circumstances and making sure that people aren't restricted from getting access to things that are effectively an essential service like connectivity," he said.
ACCC investigation

Details of the ACCC's investigation are tightly held by the regulator, but a spokeswoman released a statement:

"The ACCC is investigating allegations involving Telstra Corporation Ltd regarding its selling practices associated with the supply of mobile phones, plans and ancillary goods and services to some vulnerable Indigenous Australian people," the statement said.

"The assessment of the alleged conduct is ongoing, including as to any implications under the Australian Consumer Law.

"Conduct impacting Indigenous Australians is an enduring priority for the ACCC."

Mr Ackland said Telstra would be an "open book" in relation to any investigation.

"Any request or any investigation will be met with us just looking to learn and improve," he said.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-25/ ... s/11173362

No sympathy. I recently switched from Optus prepaid to Telstra prepaid. I put $40 a month on my phone and half the time it never gets used by the time it expires.

You don't rack up a $2,118.25 debt by just twiddling your thumbs. :roll:

Yes, phone companies are filthy grubs. Newsflash: most companies are. They are in it to make dough, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out they put "profit ahead of consumers". And they prey on stupidity.

It's up to the consumer to use their noggin, nobody forces you to get into these contracts. You grow a spine and you say, "fuck off." :roll:

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Re: The bullshit thread

Post by billy the kid » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:16 pm

When the indigenous are ripped off...its headline news...
No-one will come forward and say...well if you only have an IQ of about 20...I guess you will be ripped off....
Im surprised that the government hasn't given all indigenous persons free mobile phones...just as a way of saying
"sorry"...you know...to help with the bullshit reconciliation everyone is being conned into believing is necessary...
Im also surprised that any of them have the fkn brains to even turn the phones on.......
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Re: The bullshit thread

Post by Black Orchid » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:17 pm

It infuriates me that people are so stupid. Wouldn't a normal mother attempt to feed her own child before drumming up thousands of dollars in phone bills?

They think that if they cry victim and blame everyone else other than themselves they will be absolved of the debt. None of these whinging loons know how to take responsibility for their own actions and stupidity.

Tough luck!

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Re: The bullshit thread

Post by billy the kid » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:35 pm

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/06/un-p ... ts-muslims

This qualifies as bullshit doesnt it...
Australia is part of the Un so obviously any UN ban will be implemented by Australia..
Interesting to see what the UK government does, as they cant even decide on a definition of islamaphobia.
Pwrhaps they need to finish the Brexit gig first...what a mess....
islamic leaders worldwide are scared shitless of criticism of islam, as they know islam cant survive the criticism..
,..therefore they invent the word islamaphobia...to silence the criticism...
This is a step further...
Perhaps our government would be well advised to study the islamic doctrine of al walaa wal baraa..
which calls upon all muslims to hate non muslims....before banning islamaphobia…

The islamic principle of al-wala wal-baraa, “loyalty and disavowal,” which means loving what allah loves and hating what he hates. infidels, he believes, are the enemy of allah, and so believers should hate them and wish them to die.
Al-wala' wa-l-bara' (Arabic: الولاء والبراء‎) is a concept in islam, literally "loyalty and disavowal", which signifies loving and hating for the sake of allah. Al-wala' wa-l-bara' is referred to as holding fast to all that is pleasing to God, and withdrawing from and opposing all that is displeasing to allah, for the sake of allah. This is for their calling towards something other than submission to allah, whether on purpose or by nature of disbelief. Loving for the sake of allah means to love allah and to show loyalty to him by following his shariah. It means to love all that is good and permissible in the koran and sunnah. This type of love requires one to defend allah's deen and to preserve it. It is to love those who are obedient to allah and to defend and assist them. Hating for the sake of allah signifies showing anger towards those who oppose allah, his messenger, his deen, and the believers.
(deen means a way of life...not religion...)
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Re: The bullshit thread

Post by The Reboot » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:57 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:17 pm
It infuriates me that people are so stupid. Wouldn't a normal mother attempt to feed her own child before drumming up thousands of dollars in phone bills?

They think that if they cry victim and blame everyone else other than themselves they will be absolved of the debt. None of these whinging loons know how to take responsibility for their own actions and stupidity.

Tough luck!
I think what shits me off the most about that article is they're playing the "indigenous victim" card. And if we don't buy into it, we're racists?

In an "equal" society, the fact that she's indigenous or not shouldn't even play into it. They are the true racists, pigeon-holing different races and paying special attention to the "tint" of their skin.

If it was just an ordinary dole bludging white person it wouldn't even make the news. People would just think she's a loser (which she evidently is) and gloss over it.
billy the kid wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:35 pm
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/06/un-p ... ts-muslims

This qualifies as bullshit doesnt it...
Australia is part of the Un so obviously any UN ban will be implemented by Australia..
Interesting to see what the UK government does, as they cant even decide on a definition of islamaphobia.
Pwrhaps they need to finish the Brexit gig first...what a mess....
islamic leaders worldwide are scared shitless of criticism of islam, as they know islam cant survive the criticism..
,..therefore they invent the word islamaphobia...to silence the criticism...
This is a step further...
Perhaps our government would be well advised to study the islamic doctrine of al walaa wal baraa..
which calls upon all muslims to hate non muslims....before banning islamaphobia…

The islamic principle of al-wala wal-baraa, “loyalty and disavowal,” which means loving what allah loves and hating what he hates. infidels, he believes, are the enemy of allah, and so believers should hate them and wish them to die.
Al-wala' wa-l-bara' (Arabic: الولاء والبراء‎) is a concept in islam, literally "loyalty and disavowal", which signifies loving and hating for the sake of allah. Al-wala' wa-l-bara' is referred to as holding fast to all that is pleasing to God, and withdrawing from and opposing all that is displeasing to allah, for the sake of allah. This is for their calling towards something other than submission to allah, whether on purpose or by nature of disbelief. Loving for the sake of allah means to love allah and to show loyalty to him by following his shariah. It means to love all that is good and permissible in the koran and sunnah. This type of love requires one to defend allah's deen and to preserve it. It is to love those who are obedient to allah and to defend and assist them. Hating for the sake of allah signifies showing anger towards those who oppose allah, his messenger, his deen, and the believers.
(deen means a way of life...not religion...)
The UN is the most useless, pain in the arse thing invented. It's the stepping stone to "One World Government" which has been in the works for a very long time. I wish Australia would stop pandering to their garbage.

More thought control... here's an idea, let's just ban thinking altogether. Most people don't do it anyway. :roll:

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Re: The bullshit thread

Post by billy the kid » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:03 pm

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